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Proc sets are ruining PVP

  • Wreuntzylla
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    I saw a video of this guy (guy 1) demonstrating a few duels against this other guy (guy 2) don't remember his name, someone who claimed to be the best stam sorc in ESO or something. So yeah... basically you need the right pots, the right poisons, the right gear and you are a PvP god in you have at least some skill. Yeah pots and poisons both matter A LOT, just as much as the gear. So obviously the person who was claiming to be the the best stam sorc ever got his *** handed to him a number of times. Why? So apparently before guy 1 embraced the meta, he as running a normal medium armor build without all the OP stuff. Then he got rekt by the guy 2 a thousand times. Then he embraced the meta. Then he kicked ***. Simple as that. So yeah gear can turn a not-so-good player into the "best stam sorc ever". Gear should not determine the outcome of a duel. Not that guy 1 or guy 2 were striking me as amazingly good players, in fact it was more the other way round, they both seemed to be kinda bad.

    FENGRUSH is the best stam sorc ever so you were watching Him or a liar.

    A typical reply from an american who suffers from narcissism,though it's fine,I guess you "embraced" your "culture".
    I'm just jealous

    Fengrush is a lot of things, but narcissist is not one of them.
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    Destyran wrote: »
    *cough* remove vitality pots *cough*

    Vitality pots as an issue is so last meta. You want to know why we can tank zergs now, look to ultimates....



  • Force-Siphon
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    Guys the streamers are doing it so it must be alright!!! I saw a 15 min vid justifying wearing these sets to "expose" how OP they are to zos or something, you know because the 100 forum posts and dead pvp campaigns aren't doing it.

    This is by far the worst patch for pvp that I've experienced since I hardly pvp' the first few months of the game when vamp dk was truly broken, everyone is staying in pve despite already gearing up or rerolling stam sorcs lol. What a joke, it takes literally no skill to face roll people with this stuff.
    Edited by Force-Siphon on 24 October 2016 17:35
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  • Rohaus
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    proc sets beats wailing on someone forever and having them avoid all your damage with dodge roll after dodge roll and shuffle up at the same time...

    After I kill a dodge roller with proc sets... I mutter... "Dodge this"
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  • Jaronking
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    I saw a video of this guy (guy 1) demonstrating a few duels against this other guy (guy 2) don't remember his name, someone who claimed to be the best stam sorc in ESO or something. So yeah... basically you need the right pots, the right poisons, the right gear and you are a PvP god in you have at least some skill. Yeah pots and poisons both matter A LOT, just as much as the gear. So obviously the person who was claiming to be the the best stam sorc ever got his *** handed to him a number of times. Why? So apparently before guy 1 embraced the meta, he as running a normal medium armor build without all the OP stuff. Then he got rekt by the guy 2 a thousand times. Then he embraced the meta. Then he kicked ***. Simple as that. So yeah gear can turn a not-so-good player into the "best stam sorc ever". Gear should not determine the outcome of a duel. Not that guy 1 or guy 2 were striking me as amazingly good players, in fact it was more the other way round, they both seemed to be kinda bad.
    You talking bout this video https://youtu.be/DjmOv4eu1u4 second best Stam sorc NA behind the Lord @FENGRUSH .
    Edited by Jaronking on 24 October 2016 20:21
  • out51d3r
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    Guys the streamers are doing it so it must be alright!!!

    Of course it's alright. People are simply using the best tools ZOS gives them. It's what you do when you want to win. Creating a balanced competitive environment is ZOS's job, not ours.

    I -sincerely- doubt somebody like Sypher or Fengrush actually wants the meta to be the way it is right now. They aren't developers working for ZOS though. They can't go into the code and fix these proc sets. They are just players. They have to play the game we have, not the game we all wish we had. And the best way to win the game we actually have is to stack proc sets.
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    I saw a video of this guy (guy 1) demonstrating a few duels against this other guy (guy 2) don't remember his name, someone who claimed to be the best stam sorc in ESO or something. So yeah... basically you need the right pots, the right poisons, the right gear and you are a PvP god in you have at least some skill. Yeah pots and poisons both matter A LOT, just as much as the gear. So obviously the person who was claiming to be the the best stam sorc ever got his *** handed to him a number of times. Why? So apparently before guy 1 embraced the meta, he as running a normal medium armor build without all the OP stuff. Then he got rekt by the guy 2 a thousand times. Then he embraced the meta. Then he kicked ***. Simple as that. So yeah gear can turn a not-so-good player into the "best stam sorc ever". Gear should not determine the outcome of a duel. Not that guy 1 or guy 2 were striking me as amazingly good players, in fact it was more the other way round, they both seemed to be kinda bad.

    FENGRUSH is the best stam sorc ever so you were watching Him or a liar.

    A typical reply from an american who suffers from narcissism,though it's fine,I guess you "embraced" your "culture".
    I'm just jealous

    Fengrush is a lot of things, but narcissist is not one of them.

    Well there is only one way to know for sure.
    A narcissist is someone who looks at somebody's eyes and sees only himself,my lord,what do u see?
    Edited by TreeHugger1 on 25 October 2016 06:14
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    I just put that set that lobs the fire balls when you cast a shield on my magblade. After player with it for like a hour it looks ridiculous and it's not really that effective I'm kind of disappointed I thought I found some cheese for my magblade lol.
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    Think I'm the only one that hasn't gone viper lol.

    I chose spriggan over it.
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    Sounds like a L2P issue
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    I saw a video of this guy (guy 1) demonstrating a few duels against this other guy (guy 2) don't remember his name, someone who claimed to be the best stam sorc in ESO or something. So yeah... basically you need the right pots, the right poisons, the right gear and you are a PvP god in you have at least some skill. Yeah pots and poisons both matter A LOT, just as much as the gear. So obviously the person who was claiming to be the the best stam sorc ever got his *** handed to him a number of times. Why? So apparently before guy 1 embraced the meta, he as running a normal medium armor build without all the OP stuff. Then he got rekt by the guy 2 a thousand times. Then he embraced the meta. Then he kicked ***. Simple as that. So yeah gear can turn a not-so-good player into the "best stam sorc ever". Gear should not determine the outcome of a duel. Not that guy 1 or guy 2 were striking me as amazingly good players, in fact it was more the other way round, they both seemed to be kinda bad.

    FENGRUSH is the best stam sorc ever so you were watching Him or a liar.

    A typical reply from an american who suffers from narcissism,though it's fine,I guess you "embraced" your "culture".
    I'm just jealous

    Fengrush is a lot of things, but narcissist is not one of them.

    The dude puts up videos of himself, talking to no one, with his face plastered all over it on the internet...

    So um, maybe not the definition of narcissism, definitely egotistical.
    Edited by Waffennacht on 26 October 2016 01:46
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  • Anti_Virus
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    Holy crap some if you pvpers are rude and straight stupid makes pvpers like me look bad. You complain about procc sets yet go out of your way to farm them.

    If you hate them so bad guess what Don't farm them and Don't wear them simple I don't wear them and I do just fine in PVP if you have to wear proc sets to compete then you need to L2P.

    Stop being selfish and leave proc sets alone for pvers they have a right to enjoy them too.
    Edited by Anti_Virus on 26 October 2016 12:21
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    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    radiostar wrote: »
    Pls don't nerf PvE over this. Not again!
    You never needed these ridiculously high damage proc sets in PvE, since almost all of PvE is braindead easy.


    Have you got Dro-m'anthra Destroyer yet? No? Well, then PvE is not braindead easy.
    You "PvP only people" think that PvP requires so much skill and everything and always say that PvE is face roll easy. Yet, those PvPer when they do a pledge they are dead most of the time or spamming Dizzy Swing on a boss doing around 15k DPS.

    Both PvP and PvE require different things. PvE can be considered easier once you've learned the mechanics. But its not like PvP is extremely hard either. In both situations if you are a good player, then you won't struggle most of the time.

    It is brain-dead easy. I completed Vmaelstrom arena 4 times now in under 2 hours with my PvP build characters. Wasn't this supposed to be hard content? Vdsa is also easy ones you know how to fight the last boss, the only thing that can be challenging is playing veteran trails with very new players. This is coming from a PvP player, and I ain't that good either.

    Wow so know vMSA is easy mode? What happed to "whah I have to grind VMSA its so hard!"
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  • Smasherx74
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    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Holy crap some if you pvpers are rude and straight stupid makes pvpers like me look bad. You complain about procc sets yet go out of your way to farm them.

    If you hate them so bad guess what Don't farm them and Don't wear them simple I don't wear them and I do just fine in PVP if you have to wear proc sets to compete then you need to L2P.

    Stop being selfish and leave proc sets alone for pvers they have a right to enjoy them too.

    Because grinding RNG, then relying on RNG, makes you a skillful player right?

    It's skill based to rely on 3-4 procs, and even poison procs? It's a L2P issue because you're hit with 4 set procs at one time totally over 13k damage in under a second?

    Sorry but this isn't a L2P issue for anyone besides you. Go drop the proc sets and fight a NB running 4 procs with poison then tell me how much of a L2P issue it is.


    You know there was a time once when you had to actually strategically play the game, that time is long gone. Now everything is pure RNG, skill has been thrown out the window for a grindfest on heavy rng gear that is extraordinarily OP when you have multiple sets of procs on.


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    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Holy crap some if you pvpers are rude and straight stupid makes pvpers like me look bad. You complain about procc sets yet go out of your way to farm them.

    If you hate them so bad guess what Don't farm them and Don't wear them simple I don't wear them and I do just fine in PVP if you have to wear proc sets to compete then you need to L2P.

    Stop being selfish and leave proc sets alone for pvers they have a right to enjoy them too.

    Because grinding RNG, then relying on RNG, makes you a skillful player right?

    It's skill based to rely on 3-4 procs, and even poison procs? It's a L2P issue because you're hit with 4 set procs at one time totally over 13k damage in under a second?

    Sorry but this isn't a L2P issue for anyone besides you. Go drop the proc sets and fight a NB running 4 procs with poison then tell me how much of a L2P issue it is.


    You know there was a time once when you had to actually strategically play the game, that time is long gone. Now everything is pure RNG, skill has been thrown out the window for a grindfest on heavy rng gear that is extraordinarily OP when you have multiple sets of procs on.


    First of all I am against proc sets in pvp however they shouldn't be nerfed just for pvp because pve players also use them I have pve friends that use them in their dps rotation its essential to some and I find it funny how pvp player want to tell pvers how to dps Lol. Second like I said if you don't like proc sets DO NOT USE THEM, if most of you guys followed that idea pvp wouldn’t be this bad but NOOO gotta copy every streamer and youtube build right?

    Im confused with the bolded part. I just told you I don't need to wear proc sets and I BEAT other that do wear them do I still need to L2P?

    I think some of you guys need to adjust your own builds, stop copying streamer/you tubers stop play Fotm and make your own builds. You' d be surprised how much more fluid it is to pvp
    Edited by Anti_Virus on 26 October 2016 14:58
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    Smasherx74 wrote: »

    I know how you feel, that is frustrating, but nerfing won't solve anything( unless it is in battle spirit debuff) players will switch to the next cheese builds which will cause more complaining.

    You know what would help you against these cancer builds? Not copying them and making YOUR own builds invest more into disease resistance, use vitality and immoble pots, block more lots of ways around this problem until worbel cleans up the mess we all have to deal with it.
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    Saucy_Jack wrote: »
    "When in Cyrodiil, all stats from gear sets are reduced by 75%".

    There. Now PVPers can fight to their heart's content, while PVErs can rest in the knowledge that set tweaks for PVP purposes aren't screwing them over.

    I think you miscalculated. 0% effectiveness. No armor. Fists only. Solve it like our (insert generation here) did.
  • Smasherx74
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    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »

    I know how you feel, that is frustrating, but nerfing won't solve anything( unless it is in battle spirit debuff) players will switch to the next cheese builds which will cause more complaining.

    You know what would help you against these cancer builds? Not copying them and making YOUR own builds invest more into disease resistance, use vitality and immoble pots, block more lots of ways around this problem until worbel cleans up the mess we all have to deal with it.

    "I know it's frustrating RNG can allow someone who has 0 skill to beat someone who's been emperor, but instead of nerfing the sets how about we just not use them?!??"

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  • Smasherx74
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    I'd rather a "cheese build" that doesn't rely on RNG over a "cheese build" thats completely dependent on RNG any day.
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  • Anti_Virus
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    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »

    I know how you feel, that is frustrating, but nerfing won't solve anything( unless it is in battle spirit debuff) players will switch to the next cheese builds which will cause more complaining.

    You know what would help you against these cancer builds? Not copying them and making YOUR own builds invest more into disease resistance, use vitality and immoble pots, block more lots of ways around this problem until worbel cleans up the mess we all have to deal with it.

    "I know it's frustrating RNG can allow someone who has 0 skill to beat someone who's been emperor, but instead of nerfing the sets how about we just not use them?!??"

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    As crazy as that sounds yes. I suggest you fine tune your build to deal with them.

    I build my toon more defensively so proc sets don't instagib me, I wear all crafted sets and can beat these players just fine. When a [SNIP]realizes that their cheese don't win they rage at me. Lol
    Edited by ZOS_PeterT on 27 October 2016 15:25
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  • Smasherx74
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    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »

    I know how you feel, that is frustrating, but nerfing won't solve anything( unless it is in battle spirit debuff) players will switch to the next cheese builds which will cause more complaining.

    You know what would help you against these cancer builds? Not copying them and making YOUR own builds invest more into disease resistance, use vitality and immoble pots, block more lots of ways around this problem until worbel cleans up the mess we all have to deal with it.

    "I know it's frustrating RNG can allow someone who has 0 skill to beat someone who's been emperor, but instead of nerfing the sets how about we just not use them?!??"

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    As crazy as that sounds yes. I suggest you fine tune your build to deal with them.

    I build my toon more defensively so proc sets don't instagib me, I wear all crafted sets and can beat these players just fine. When a [SNIP]realizes that their cheese don't win they rage at me. Lol
    [SNIP]


    but just for the sake of amusing you,

    Let's see the all mighty craftable build that can beat any 3-4 proc set wearing nightblade tank that can heal through any DPS sparse.

    Edited by ZOS_PeterT on 27 October 2016 15:26
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    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »

    I know how you feel, that is frustrating, but nerfing won't solve anything( unless it is in battle spirit debuff) players will switch to the next cheese builds which will cause more complaining.

    You know what would help you against these cancer builds? Not copying them and making YOUR own builds invest more into disease resistance, use vitality and immoble pots, block more lots of ways around this problem until worbel cleans up the mess we all have to deal with it.

    "I know it's frustrating RNG can allow someone who has 0 skill to beat someone who's been emperor, but instead of nerfing the sets how about we just not use them?!??"

    srcstc.gif



    As crazy as that sounds yes. I suggest you fine tune your build to deal with them.

    I build my toon more defensively so proc sets don't instagib me, I wear all crafted sets and can beat these players just fine. When a [SNIP]realizes that their cheese don't win they rage at me. Lol

    Well my BS detector is deep in the red...you're constantly defending these proc sets for the sake of "others" and the general welfare of the PvE community, which obviously couldn't take on the incredibly difficult endgame PvE content without proc sets (I really don't know how anyone managed before Velidreth), and you, of course, only use crafted sets and I assume whatever jewelry you can find lying around?

    Ok then.
    Edited by ZOS_PeterT on 27 October 2016 15:27
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    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »

    I know how you feel, that is frustrating, but nerfing won't solve anything( unless it is in battle spirit debuff) players will switch to the next cheese builds which will cause more complaining.

    You know what would help you against these cancer builds? Not copying them and making YOUR own builds invest more into disease resistance, use vitality and immoble pots, block more lots of ways around this problem until worbel cleans up the mess we all have to deal with it.

    "I know it's frustrating RNG can allow someone who has 0 skill to beat someone who's been emperor, but instead of nerfing the sets how about we just not use them?!??"

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    As crazy as that sounds yes. I suggest you fine tune your build to deal with them.

    I build my toon more defensively so proc sets don't instagib me, I wear all crafted sets and can beat these players just fine. When a [SNIP]realizes that their cheese don't win they rage at me. Lol

    [SNIP]


    but just for the sake of amusing you,

    Let's see the all mighty craftable build that can beat any 3-4 proc set wearing nightblade tank that can heal through any DPS sparse.

    Ah mustive struck a nerve with my stubbornness huh?

    Well i'll tell you then for starters im a nb.

    I wear 7/7 medium armor all impen
    Crafted gear is hundings + night silence + agility( two robust one healthy) all WD sometimes I put poison resistance on them.

    CP: 20% reduction on poison, disease, and physical dmg
    10% dot resistance dmg
    Left overs onto elemental expert to get unchained

    Rest of red cp into resistant,

    Green, 100 into warlord
    15% stam regen
    5% into Tumbling

    Blue, 27 into quick recovery
    20% into mighty
    10% percise strikes
    10% thamaturge

    Stats:

    17k hp( 23K in cyrodil)
    9k magicka
    31k stamina
    3500 WD
    57% weapon crit
    2788 crit resistance( 44% crit reduction)
    10110 physical and spell resistance( don't matter because it gets penetrated by sharpened weapons)
    1800 stam regen (2340 with pots, and relentless focus)

    My weapons have disease enchant for heal debuff
    They are daggers

    Second weapon is a 2h

    Now that I shared my build I sustain more and take more hits from [SNIP]

    L2P man.
    Edited by ZOS_PeterT on 27 October 2016 15:27
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  • Smasherx74
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    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »

    I know how you feel, that is frustrating, but nerfing won't solve anything( unless it is in battle spirit debuff) players will switch to the next cheese builds which will cause more complaining.

    You know what would help you against these cancer builds? Not copying them and making YOUR own builds invest more into disease resistance, use vitality and immoble pots, block more lots of ways around this problem until worbel cleans up the mess we all have to deal with it.

    "I know it's frustrating RNG can allow someone who has 0 skill to beat someone who's been emperor, but instead of nerfing the sets how about we just not use them?!??"

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    As crazy as that sounds yes. I suggest you fine tune your build to deal with them.

    I build my toon more defensively so proc sets don't instagib me, I wear all crafted sets and can beat these players just fine. When a [SNIP]realizes that their cheese don't win they rage at me. Lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo


    but just for the sake of amusing you,

    Let's see the all mighty craftable build that can beat any 3-4 proc set wearing nightblade tank that can heal through any DPS sparse.

    Ah mustive struck a nerve with my stubbornness huh?

    Well i'll tell you then for starters im a nb.

    I wear 7/7 medium armor all impen
    Crafted gear is hundings + night silence + agility( two robust one healthy) all WD sometimes I put poison resistance on them.

    CP: 20% reduction on poison, disease, and physical dmg
    10% dot resistance dmg
    Left overs onto elemental expert to get unchained

    Rest of red cp into resistant,

    Green, 100 into warlord
    15% stam regen
    5% into Tumbling

    Blue, 27 into quick recovery
    20% into mighty
    10% percise strikes
    10% thamaturge

    Stats:

    17k hp( 23K in cyrodil)
    9k magicka
    31k stamina
    3500 WD
    2788 crit resistance( 44%)
    1800 stam regen (2340 with pots, and relentless focus)

    Now that I shared my build I sustain more and take more hits from [SNIP]

    L2P man.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEr4od4jQk0
    Edited by ZOS_PeterT on 27 October 2016 15:27
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  • Anti_Virus
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    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »

    I know how you feel, that is frustrating, but nerfing won't solve anything( unless it is in battle spirit debuff) players will switch to the next cheese builds which will cause more complaining.

    You know what would help you against these cancer builds? Not copying them and making YOUR own builds invest more into disease resistance, use vitality and immoble pots, block more lots of ways around this problem until worbel cleans up the mess we all have to deal with it.

    "I know it's frustrating RNG can allow someone who has 0 skill to beat someone who's been emperor, but instead of nerfing the sets how about we just not use them?!??"

    srcstc.gif



    As crazy as that sounds yes. I suggest you fine tune your build to deal with them.

    I build my toon more defensively so proc sets don't instagib me, I wear all crafted sets and can beat these players just fine. When a [SNIP]realizes that their cheese don't win they rage at me. Lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo


    but just for the sake of amusing you,

    Let's see the all mighty craftable build that can beat any 3-4 proc set wearing nightblade tank that can heal through any DPS sparse.

    Ah mustive struck a nerve with my stubbornness huh?

    Well i'll tell you then for starters im a nb.

    I wear 7/7 medium armor all impen
    Crafted gear is hundings + night silence + agility( two robust one healthy) all WD sometimes I put poison resistance on them.

    CP: 20% reduction on poison, disease, and physical dmg
    10% dot resistance dmg
    Left overs onto elemental expert to get unchained

    Rest of red cp into resistant,

    Green, 100 into warlord
    15% stam regen
    5% into Tumbling

    Blue, 27 into quick recovery
    20% into mighty
    10% percise strikes
    10% thamaturge

    Stats:

    17k hp( 23K in cyrodil)
    9k magicka
    31k stamina
    3500 WD
    2788 crit resistance( 44%)
    1800 stam regen (2340 with pots, and relentless focus)

    Now that I shared my build I sustain more and take more hits from [SNIP]

    L2P man.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEr4od4jQk0

    That's all you got to say? Don't laugh now man you got some work to do against those [SNIP].
    Edited by ZOS_PeterT on 27 October 2016 15:28
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    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »

    I know how you feel, that is frustrating, but nerfing won't solve anything( unless it is in battle spirit debuff) players will switch to the next cheese builds which will cause more complaining.

    You know what would help you against these cancer builds? Not copying them and making YOUR own builds invest more into disease resistance, use vitality and immoble pots, block more lots of ways around this problem until worbel cleans up the mess we all have to deal with it.

    "I know it's frustrating RNG can allow someone who has 0 skill to beat someone who's been emperor, but instead of nerfing the sets how about we just not use them?!??"

    srcstc.gif



    As crazy as that sounds yes. I suggest you fine tune your build to deal with them.

    I build my toon more defensively so proc sets don't instagib me, I wear all crafted sets and can beat these players just fine. When a [SNIP]realizes that their cheese don't win they rage at me. Lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo [SNIP]

    but just for the sake of amusing you,

    Let's see the all mighty craftable build that can beat any 3-4 proc set wearing nightblade tank that can heal through any DPS sparse.

    Ah mustive struck a nerve with my stubbornness huh?

    Well i'll tell you then for starters im a nb.

    I wear 7/7 medium armor all impen
    Crafted gear is hundings + night silence + agility( two robust one healthy) all WD sometimes I put poison resistance on them.

    CP: 20% reduction on poison, disease, and physical dmg
    10% dot resistance dmg
    Left overs onto elemental expert to get unchained

    Rest of red cp into resistant,

    Green, 100 into warlord
    15% stam regen
    5% into Tumbling

    Blue, 27 into quick recovery
    20% into mighty
    10% percise strikes
    10% thamaturge

    Stats:

    17k hp( 23K in cyrodil)
    9k magicka
    31k stamina
    3500 WD
    2788 crit resistance( 44%)
    1800 stam regen (2340 with pots, and relentless focus)

    Now that I shared my build I sustain more and take more hits from [SNIP]

    L2P man.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEr4od4jQk0

    That's all you got to say? Don't laugh now man you got some work to do against those [SNIP].

    Yep, Nights Silence FTW.
    Edited by ZOS_PeterT on 27 October 2016 15:28
  • Anti_Virus
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »

    I know how you feel, that is frustrating, but nerfing won't solve anything( unless it is in battle spirit debuff) players will switch to the next cheese builds which will cause more complaining.

    You know what would help you against these cancer builds? Not copying them and making YOUR own builds invest more into disease resistance, use vitality and immoble pots, block more lots of ways around this problem until worbel cleans up the mess we all have to deal with it.

    "I know it's frustrating RNG can allow someone who has 0 skill to beat someone who's been emperor, but instead of nerfing the sets how about we just not use them?!??"

    srcstc.gif



    As crazy as that sounds yes. I suggest you fine tune your build to deal with them.

    I build my toon more defensively so proc sets don't instagib me, I wear all crafted sets and can beat these players just fine. When a proctard realizes that their cheese don't win they rage at me. Lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo


    but just for the sake of amusing you,

    Let's see the all mighty craftable build that can beat any 3-4 proc set wearing nightblade tank that can heal through any DPS sparse.

    Ah mustive struck a nerve with my stubbornness huh?

    Well i'll tell you then for starters im a nb.

    I wear 7/7 medium armor all impen
    Crafted gear is hundings + night silence + agility( two robust one healthy) all WD sometimes I put poison resistance on them.

    CP: 20% reduction on poison, disease, and physical dmg
    10% dot resistance dmg
    Left overs onto elemental expert to get unchained

    Rest of red cp into resistant,

    Green, 100 into warlord
    15% stam regen
    5% into Tumbling

    Blue, 27 into quick recovery
    20% into mighty
    10% percise strikes
    10% thamaturge

    Stats:

    17k hp( 23K in cyrodil)
    9k magicka
    31k stamina
    3500 WD
    2788 crit resistance( 44%)
    1800 stam regen (2340 with pots, and relentless focus)

    Now that I shared my build I sustain more and take more hits from proctards

    L2P man.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEr4od4jQk0

    That's all you got to say? Don't laugh now man you got some work to do against those proctards.

    Yep, Nights Silence FTW.

    Yep. Point is while you guys are qqing i'm combating the proc meta and im doing just fine.
    Power Wealth And Influence.
  • Sandman929
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    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »

    I know how you feel, that is frustrating, but nerfing won't solve anything( unless it is in battle spirit debuff) players will switch to the next cheese builds which will cause more complaining.

    You know what would help you against these cancer builds? Not copying them and making YOUR own builds invest more into disease resistance, use vitality and immoble pots, block more lots of ways around this problem until worbel cleans up the mess we all have to deal with it.

    "I know it's frustrating RNG can allow someone who has 0 skill to beat someone who's been emperor, but instead of nerfing the sets how about we just not use them?!??"

    srcstc.gif



    As crazy as that sounds yes. I suggest you fine tune your build to deal with them.

    I build my toon more defensively so proc sets don't instagib me, I wear all crafted sets and can beat these players just fine. When a proctard realizes that their cheese don't win they rage at me. Lol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo


    but just for the sake of amusing you,

    Let's see the all mighty craftable build that can beat any 3-4 proc set wearing nightblade tank that can heal through any DPS sparse.

    Ah mustive struck a nerve with my stubbornness huh?

    Well i'll tell you then for starters im a nb.

    I wear 7/7 medium armor all impen
    Crafted gear is hundings + night silence + agility( two robust one healthy) all WD sometimes I put poison resistance on them.

    CP: 20% reduction on poison, disease, and physical dmg
    10% dot resistance dmg
    Left overs onto elemental expert to get unchained

    Rest of red cp into resistant,

    Green, 100 into warlord
    15% stam regen
    5% into Tumbling

    Blue, 27 into quick recovery
    20% into mighty
    10% percise strikes
    10% thamaturge

    Stats:

    17k hp( 23K in cyrodil)
    9k magicka
    31k stamina
    3500 WD
    2788 crit resistance( 44%)
    1800 stam regen (2340 with pots, and relentless focus)

    Now that I shared my build I sustain more and take more hits from proctards

    L2P man.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEr4od4jQk0

    That's all you got to say? Don't laugh now man you got some work to do against those proctards.

    Yep, Nights Silence FTW.

    Yep. Point is while you guys are qqing i'm combating the proc meta and im doing just fine.

    And we thank you for this lesson in awesomeness.
  • Anti_Virus
    Anti_Virus
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    Smasherx74 wrote: »

    I know how you feel, that is frustrating, but nerfing won't solve anything( unless it is in battle spirit debuff) players will switch to the next cheese builds which will cause more complaining.

    You know what would help you against these cancer builds? Not copying them and making YOUR own builds invest more into disease resistance, use vitality and immoble pots, block more lots of ways around this problem until worbel cleans up the mess we all have to deal with it.

    "I know it's frustrating RNG can allow someone who has 0 skill to beat someone who's been emperor, but instead of nerfing the sets how about we just not use them?!??"

    srcstc.gif



    As crazy as that sounds yes. I suggest you fine tune your build to deal with them.

    I build my toon more defensively so proc sets don't instagib me, I wear all crafted sets and can beat these players just fine. When a [SNIP]realizes that their cheese don't win they rage at me. Lol
    [SNIP]


    but just for the sake of amusing you,

    Let's see the all mighty craftable build that can beat any 3-4 proc set wearing nightblade tank that can heal through any DPS sparse.

    Ah mustive struck a nerve with my stubbornness huh?

    Well i'll tell you then for starters im a nb.

    I wear 7/7 medium armor all impen
    Crafted gear is hundings + night silence + agility( two robust one healthy) all WD sometimes I put poison resistance on them.

    CP: 20% reduction on poison, disease, and physical dmg
    10% dot resistance dmg
    Left overs onto elemental expert to get unchained

    Rest of red cp into resistant,

    Green, 100 into warlord
    15% stam regen
    5% into Tumbling

    Blue, 27 into quick recovery
    20% into mighty
    10% percise strikes
    10% thamaturge

    Stats:

    17k hp( 23K in cyrodil)
    9k magicka
    31k stamina
    3500 WD
    2788 crit resistance( 44%)
    1800 stam regen (2340 with pots, and relentless focus)

    Now that I shared my build I sustain more and take more hits from proctards

    L2P man.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEr4od4jQk0

    That's all you got to say? Don't laugh now man you got some work to do against those proctards.

    Yep, Nights Silence FTW.

    Yep. Point is while you guys are qqing i'm combating the proc meta and im doing just fine.

    And we thank you for this lesson in awesomeness.

    No problem.
    Edited by ZOS_PeterT on 27 October 2016 15:28
    Power Wealth And Influence.
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