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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Macros and PvP

  • TheDarkRuler
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    Macro using is unfair benefit towards those who don't do.
    So using them in competitive areas should not be okay.
    Anyone who defends those who use macros in PVP are either those who use them theirselves or know friends who do. I cannot believe anyone who claims to be an upstanding PVP player and who claims Makros in PVP are ok.
    Edited by TheDarkRuler on 27 August 2016 04:23
  • NoMoreChillies
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    this whole situation reminds me of the early shooter games and wallhacks

    same excuses used by both sides
    Edited by NoMoreChillies on 27 August 2016 05:27
    Insulting people on the internet is cowardly.
  • ScooberSteve
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    I like the game the way it is. It can be challenging and it sorts out the good players from the bad.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    I am very fast at animation canceling . A macro would only be faster maybe with a stealthed opening chain attack . Problem is that is what most people do use them for in PvP . With a ultimate ready and just keybound string attack very fast opener but no looping macro will work .
  •  Jules
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    Milvan wrote: »
    I have seen some people doing some nasty stuff with macros, like casting 5~ abilities (including light atacks) instantly. ZOS definetely should check on that, it demotives to participate on PVP.

    What can we do with a company that let their streammers uses exploits unpunished?

    Milvan i completely agree with you on that, its clear in the videos you linked that this guy is intentionaly queuing up attacks while he is in the "air".

    Are you guys insane or just unable to equip crit rush before you spew lies all over the forums?
    The skill is insanely buggy right now. This literally happens to everyone using the skill.
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  • Saturn
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    Avenias wrote: »
    Saturn wrote: »
    Macroing / Scripting is not allowed as per the game's ToS:
    You agree not to use any hardware or software or any other method of support that is not authorized by ZeniMax or that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities, or influence or advantage Your use of the Services. Third party tools, the use of "bots", "speed hacks", "deep-link", "page-scrape", "robot", "spider", algorithms or other programs that copy or monitor any part of the Services (including, but not limited to, the Game(s) and/or forums), software that transmits, manipulates, or distributes (including, but are limited to, "mirroring") the data stream or any aspect of the Services to another computer, server websites or other publication or distribution media, or software that permits You to use Services without human input are examples of methods not authorized by ZeniMax.
    Source.

    There are unfortunately players who use macros in the game, for both PvE and PvP content. I've only come across it a few times, and often immediately write it off as lag. If you encounter the same player doing the same thing to you several times then I would suggest using the /help tool to report the player. Often when players are macroing you will see them doing things you aren't able to recreate. I've seen a few videos of people doing weaving and animation cancelling that simply isn't possible, but of course things like these are tough to spot in heated PvP scenarios.

    Wait what macroing is against the TOS? Since when?

    The use of Macros in combat has always been against ToS.

    Proving it becomes a different story and the person you quoted isn't exactly correct as most skilled players use the same rotation each time they attack a single player. The differnce is someone who uses macros cannot adjust if the attack doesn't go as planned.

    I've talked to a few people that use macros and they both had them set up to do different things. So it's not as if there's only one way you can use a macro, meaning it isn't super easy to tell whether or not something is macroed. Usually it has to do with timing, by doing things you wouldn't able able to do with human reaction time (unless you are some kind of superhuman). Whenever I encounter people I think are cheating I usually record it and slow it down to have a good look at what they are doing. When things are slowed down and you still don't even see any animation because the animation cancelling of something happened a milisecond after it was fired, then something is pretty fishy. I've fough a few people who like to jump around and who do these inhuman animation cancellings along with always firing three abilities off at the same exact moment, which I've been unable to recreate. I would tell you the name but it's against ToS to do so, I'm sure you would know the person I have in mind though as he's quite infamous for cheating on the NA server.
    Edited by Saturn on 27 August 2016 16:54
    "Madness is a bitter mercy, perhaps, but a mercy nonetheless."

    Fire and Ice
  • hyttemaierb16_ESO
    Jules wrote: »
    Milvan wrote: »
    I have seen some people doing some nasty stuff with macros, like casting 5~ abilities (including light atacks) instantly. ZOS definetely should check on that, it demotives to participate on PVP.

    What can we do with a company that let their streammers uses exploits unpunished?

    Milvan i completely agree with you on that, its clear in the videos you linked that this guy is intentionaly queuing up attacks while he is in the "air".

    Are you guys insane or just unable to equip crit rush before you spew lies all over the forums?
    The skill is insanely buggy right now. This literally happens to everyone using the skill.

    Hi Jules, i dont think you can call it "spewing" lies, i watched the videos and am just refearing to what i saw in them, one thing is to use a bugged skill (and yes i have tried using, crit rush) another is to "exploit" it, when you get the bug there is a simple thing you can do to get out of it (block and/or dodge roll) i see your point, it is bugged but using it intentionaly to get easy kills, is an exploit in my opinion, thats just my 2 cents, all that aside i am a fan of yours i like your style in pvp, you are so good you dont need silly exploits to get kills, you got my respect for that /bow.
  •  Jules
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    Jules wrote: »
    Milvan wrote: »
    I have seen some people doing some nasty stuff with macros, like casting 5~ abilities (including light atacks) instantly. ZOS definetely should check on that, it demotives to participate on PVP.

    What can we do with a company that let their streammers uses exploits unpunished?

    Milvan i completely agree with you on that, its clear in the videos you linked that this guy is intentionaly queuing up attacks while he is in the "air".

    Are you guys insane or just unable to equip crit rush before you spew lies all over the forums?
    The skill is insanely buggy right now. This literally happens to everyone using the skill.

    Hi Jules, i dont think you can call it "spewing" lies, i watched the videos and am just refearing to what i saw in them, one thing is to use a bugged skill (and yes i have tried using, crit rush) another is to "exploit" it, when you get the bug there is a simple thing you can do to get out of it (block and/or dodge roll) i see your point, it is bugged but using it intentionaly to get easy kills, is an exploit in my opinion, thats just my 2 cents, all that aside i am a fan of yours i like your style in pvp, you are so good you dont need silly exploits to get kills, you got my respect for that /bow.

    Appreciate the kind words and sorry for coming off like an ass. I agree to an extent... Every time this happens to me I just block because it's annoying and buggy as heck. Truth be told though, the skill really just needs to be fixed so this isn't happening.
    JULES | PC NA | ADAMANT

    IGN- @Juies || Youtube || Twitch
    EP - Julianos . Jules . Family Jules . Jules of Misrule. Joy
    DC - Julsie . Jules . Jukes . Jojuji . Juliet . Jaded
    AD - Juice . Jubaited . Joules . Julmanji . Julogy . Jubroni . Ju Jitsu



    Rest in Peace G & Yi
    Viva La Aristocracy
  • hyttemaierb16_ESO
    Jules wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Milvan wrote: »
    I have seen some people doing some nasty stuff with macros, like casting 5~ abilities (including light atacks) instantly. ZOS definetely should check on that, it demotives to participate on PVP.

    What can we do with a company that let their streammers uses exploits unpunished?

    Milvan i completely agree with you on that, its clear in the videos you linked that this guy is intentionaly queuing up attacks while he is in the "air".

    Are you guys insane or just unable to equip crit rush before you spew lies all over the forums?
    The skill is insanely buggy right now. This literally happens to everyone using the skill.

    Hi Jules, i dont think you can call it "spewing" lies, i watched the videos and am just refearing to what i saw in them, one thing is to use a bugged skill (and yes i have tried using, crit rush) another is to "exploit" it, when you get the bug there is a simple thing you can do to get out of it (block and/or dodge roll) i see your point, it is bugged but using it intentionaly to get easy kills, is an exploit in my opinion, thats just my 2 cents, all that aside i am a fan of yours i like your style in pvp, you are so good you dont need silly exploits to get kills, you got my respect for that /bow.

    Appreciate the kind words and sorry for coming off like an ass. I agree to an extent... Every time this happens to me I just block because it's annoying and buggy as heck. Truth be told though, the skill really just needs to be fixed so this isn't happening.

    You are forgiven if you sing this on stream tonight :Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muQQuCHEu3c&list=PL6CD4FE0F8F8650D2&index=6

    Agree, i took the skill completely off my bar because of it..
  • Cously
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    No company will go against players macroing today. After the release of MMO gaming mouses, especially from the powerful Razer, macro will turn to be the normal thing. The industry works together.
  •  Jules
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    Jules wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Milvan wrote: »
    I have seen some people doing some nasty stuff with macros, like casting 5~ abilities (including light atacks) instantly. ZOS definetely should check on that, it demotives to participate on PVP.

    What can we do with a company that let their streammers uses exploits unpunished?

    Milvan i completely agree with you on that, its clear in the videos you linked that this guy is intentionaly queuing up attacks while he is in the "air".

    Are you guys insane or just unable to equip crit rush before you spew lies all over the forums?
    The skill is insanely buggy right now. This literally happens to everyone using the skill.

    Hi Jules, i dont think you can call it "spewing" lies, i watched the videos and am just refearing to what i saw in them, one thing is to use a bugged skill (and yes i have tried using, crit rush) another is to "exploit" it, when you get the bug there is a simple thing you can do to get out of it (block and/or dodge roll) i see your point, it is bugged but using it intentionaly to get easy kills, is an exploit in my opinion, thats just my 2 cents, all that aside i am a fan of yours i like your style in pvp, you are so good you dont need silly exploits to get kills, you got my respect for that /bow.

    Appreciate the kind words and sorry for coming off like an ass. I agree to an extent... Every time this happens to me I just block because it's annoying and buggy as heck. Truth be told though, the skill really just needs to be fixed so this isn't happening.

    You are forgiven if you sing this on stream tonight :Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muQQuCHEu3c&list=PL6CD4FE0F8F8650D2&index=6

    Agree, i took the skill completely off my bar because of it..

    Omg you saw that :#
    JULES | PC NA | ADAMANT

    IGN- @Juies || Youtube || Twitch
    EP - Julianos . Jules . Family Jules . Jules of Misrule. Joy
    DC - Julsie . Jules . Jukes . Jojuji . Juliet . Jaded
    AD - Juice . Jubaited . Joules . Julmanji . Julogy . Jubroni . Ju Jitsu



    Rest in Peace G & Yi
    Viva La Aristocracy
  • hyttemaierb16_ESO
    Jules wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Milvan wrote: »
    I have seen some people doing some nasty stuff with macros, like casting 5~ abilities (including light atacks) instantly. ZOS definetely should check on that, it demotives to participate on PVP.

    What can we do with a company that let their streammers uses exploits unpunished?

    Milvan i completely agree with you on that, its clear in the videos you linked that this guy is intentionaly queuing up attacks while he is in the "air".

    Are you guys insane or just unable to equip crit rush before you spew lies all over the forums?
    The skill is insanely buggy right now. This literally happens to everyone using the skill.

    Hi Jules, i dont think you can call it "spewing" lies, i watched the videos and am just refearing to what i saw in them, one thing is to use a bugged skill (and yes i have tried using, crit rush) another is to "exploit" it, when you get the bug there is a simple thing you can do to get out of it (block and/or dodge roll) i see your point, it is bugged but using it intentionaly to get easy kills, is an exploit in my opinion, thats just my 2 cents, all that aside i am a fan of yours i like your style in pvp, you are so good you dont need silly exploits to get kills, you got my respect for that /bow.

    Appreciate the kind words and sorry for coming off like an ass. I agree to an extent... Every time this happens to me I just block because it's annoying and buggy as heck. Truth be told though, the skill really just needs to be fixed so this isn't happening.

    You are forgiven if you sing this on stream tonight :Dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muQQuCHEu3c&list=PL6CD4FE0F8F8650D2&index=6

    Agree, i took the skill completely off my bar because of it..

    Omg you saw that :#

    LOL yes i did, it was both funny and good at the same time :D
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