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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Nbs need a slight buff

Ariades_swe
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I think magicka nbs might need a slight buff solo pvp. We got zero defences and cloak stinks.
1vx we are worse off than the other classes.Basically we need to put in more effort than other classes to achieve same results.
Edited by Ariades_swe on 18 April 2016 06:54
  • KILLu4aCORONA
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    I think magicka nbs might need a buff solo pvp. We got zero defences and cloak stinks.
    1vx we are way worse off than the other classes.Basically we need to put in more effort than other classes to achieve same results.

    I'm just going to grab a bag of popcorn and await the roasting that you're about to receive...this should be good
    Edited by KILLu4aCORONA on 18 April 2016 06:23
  • Lexxypwns
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    Obvious troll is obvious
  • KILLu4aCORONA
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Obvious troll is obvious

    Don't ruin my fun Lexxy, I need this
  • HoloYoitsu
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    Nahhhh, sorc shields are what needs a buff.
  • Ariades_swe
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    I think magicka nbs might need a buff solo pvp. We got zero defences and cloak stinks.
    1vx we are way worse off than the other classes.Basically we need to put in more effort than other classes to achieve same results.

    I'm just going to grab a bag of popcorn and await the roasting that you're about to receive...this should be good

    So you think its fair sorcerers got op shieldstacking and spammable teleport while we get a bugged stealth that imppssible to keep up because of the high resource cost?
  • TwistedThoughtz
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    Ok so we got..
    Buff Mag NB
    Buff Sorc Shields

    what if we just nerfed stam builds instead?
  • KILLu4aCORONA
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    So you think its fair sorcerers got op shieldstacking and spammable teleport while we get a bugged stealth that imppssible to keep up because of the high resource cost?

    Well, I don't recall bringing sorcs into the discussion, but since you did, here we go. Shield stacking sorcs need to be addressed, yes. I never said anything to the contrary, I simply am laughing at the idea of even considering a further buff to the NB class. If you honestly feel that the class needs additional help to be competitive, then what you are experiencing is a classic l2p situation.
  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    O.o
    Is this another "ZOS plz nerf jesus beam thread cuz I can't 1vX templars! kthxbai<3" in disguise?

    Blur
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    Consuming Darkness ultimate

    Honestly my main is a v16 templar, and I've had an easier time escaping enemy players with my level 21 nightblade.
  • Ariades_swe
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    All these skills youve listed cost tons of resources. Try play without op heals then talk
  • Ariades_swe
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    Im not saying we need a big buff. Just an increase to our survivability so we get on par with the other classes
  • LatinLegacy
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    Stam NB's are the ones that need the damn buff lol. I am in that camp where I want to sacrifice my ability to survive in order to be able to burst down any other class in the game in a 1 v 1 scenario. Especially if I get the jump on them. Since my play style is to be behind enemy lines when they are attacking a keep. I, for the life of me, can not get a good build going where the damage output is to my liking. It's almost like I am being forced to re-roll into a magicka nb just to be another bullet point for NB's are broken threads lol.
    Edited by LatinLegacy on 18 April 2016 06:56
  • KILLu4aCORONA
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    Im not saying we need a big buff. Just an increase to our survivability so we get on par with the other classes

    Again, I laugh
  • Brrrofski
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    I think magicka nbs might need a buff solo pvp. We got zero defences and cloak stinks.
    1vx we are way worse off than the other classes.Basically we need to put in more effort than other classes to achieve same results.

    I'm just going to grab a bag of popcorn and await the roasting that you're about to receive...this should be good

    So you think its fair sorcerers got op shieldstacking and spammable teleport while we get a bugged stealth that imppssible to keep up because of the high resource cost?

    I can infinitely cloak. As in, timing it right, I can cloak forever. Shadow image, healing from sap, healing ward, dodge chance from double take and cloak... Plenty of survivability. Unless you're running a vd build. But that's a sacrifice you've made.
  • Ariades_swe
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    Radiant magelight makes stealth obsolete and much easier to spam Bol, Hardened ward or dk reflect than any of the skills youve listed.
    This class will be dead if they ever implement 1v1, 2v2 arena.
    Edited by Ariades_swe on 18 April 2016 07:16
  • KILLu4aCORONA
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    dk reflect

    A DK's reflective scales have zero impact on you as a magblade other than heavy attacks if you choose to run a destro staff, so don't feed us that crap.
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  • Brrrofski
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    Radiant magelight makes stealth obsolete and much easier to spam Bol, Hardened ward or dk reflect than any of the skills youve listed.
    This class will be dead if they ever implement 1v1, 2v2 arena.

    You do realise that DKs and temps have no escape mechanics. So spamming bol or wings will only keep you alive until you have no resource.

    Cloak had it's counters. Bol can be debuffed and wings only protects you against projectiles. Honestly, cry to a magica and templar about survivability when a group of 5 are running towards them.

    The class won't be dead at all. It have great survivability. Try using things other than cloak and you'd see.
  • contact.opiumb16_ESO
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    I think magicka nbs might need a slight buff solo pvp. We got zero defences and cloak stinks.
    1vx we are worse off than the other classes.Basically we need to put in more effort than other classes to achieve same results.

    Let's see, on my PVP EU server, we have on top 20 players 14 NB ! Yes ! 14 ! others are mostly sorcerers, then poor dk and temps.

    C'mon dude, i play since beta, have vet16 temp, nb and sorcerer (my dk is baby one so i can't speak for this class). my nb have the better K/D ratio by far, then my sorcerer. Playing with a temp in pvp is like playing in a hard mod compared to the others.

    I don't like this argument but honnestly, your comment smells like a L2P issue. Maybe your build is wrong btw...
  • TwistedThoughtz
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    Some people have a hard time reading between the lines.. ;)
  • Vanzen
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    I suppose this is a joke.
    As a DK am on the verge of quiting pvp till Mag NB are nerfed to oblivion like they should be.
    They hit like a truck, can disapear at will, have the best CC, and can take a beating from 4 people w/o a sweat.
    Am not even talking about the insane scandal : sap/det/Vd.
  • Prabooo
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    O.o
    Is this another "ZOS plz nerf jesus beam thread cuz I can't 1vX templars! kthxbai<3" in disguise?

    Blur
    Shades
    Aspect of Terror
    Consuming Darkness ultimate

    Honestly my main is a v16 templar, and I've had an easier time escaping enemy players with my level 21 nightblade.

    This is what nightblades are supposed to do as class...

  • Ariades_swe
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    Prabooo wrote: »
    O.o
    Is this another "ZOS plz nerf jesus beam thread cuz I can't 1vX templars! kthxbai<3" in disguise?

    Blur
    Shades
    Aspect of Terror
    Consuming Darkness ultimate

    Honestly my main is a v16 templar, and I've had an easier time escaping enemy players with my level 21 nightblade.

    This is what nightblades are supposed to do as class...

    Thing is we cant even do that now.
  • Van_0S
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Obvious troll is obvious

    I don't thing so!!!
    I guess OP doesn't use proxy detonation and VD ( like me).

    Edit:
    OP, atleast state your playstyle so that other will take your thread seriously or not.
    Edit1:
    True, @Ariades_swe!!
    but your forgetting that they are OP players like sypher that know what gear set and play style should be implemented to a MagNB.

    You should never charge in battle like a DK but always be in stealth and wait for the opportunity to strike like burst your damage(use proxy+ VD set against 1vs X) and if you fail to kill your foe then cloak the hell out the way.

    Against, 1vs 1 magNB can still kick as because it heavy depends on your CP,Gear,Gylps,burst, potions,etc but mostly your play style.

    I know MagNB are very squishy but I have seen others( mostly former emps) have over 35k HP with a decent burst and resources that can take down X players and come out alive.
    Edited by Van_0S on 18 April 2016 09:20
  • Prabooo
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    I'll just take a wild guess and say that OP's build sucks and lacks CP's
  • Bofrari
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    I know lets make it where nbs can stay invisible permanently, take no damage at all and one shot on the 1st strike. The sad part about this is if they actually did people that make these type of threads would still find a way to get rekt.
  • Mojmir
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    I suck at pvp,and even I disagree
  • Sunburnt_Penguin
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    I think magicka nbs might need a slight buff solo pvp. We got zero defences and cloak stinks.
    1vx we are worse off than the other classes.Basically we need to put in more effort than other classes to achieve same results.
    1. Zero Defences:
    - Cloak
    - Shadow Barrier
    - Mass Hysteria
    - Shadow Image
    - Swallow Soul
    - Sap Essence
    - Soul Siphoner
    - Ability to use Resto abilities

    2. Cloak stinks:
    - Guaranteed crit

    3. Put in more effort than other classes to achieve same results:
    > Soul Tether + Proxi + VD + Sap Essence + VD = easy AP

    After listing all that I've realised that you're trolling.
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  • Ariades_swe
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    I think magicka nbs might need a slight buff solo pvp. We got zero defences and cloak stinks.
    1vx we are worse off than the other classes.Basically we need to put in more effort than other classes to achieve same results.
    1. Zero Defences:
    - Cloak
    - Shadow Barrier
    - Mass Hysteria
    - Shadow Image
    - Swallow Soul
    - Sap Essence
    - Soul Siphoner
    - Ability to use Resto abilities

    2. Cloak stinks:
    - Guaranteed crit

    3. Put in more effort than other classes to achieve same results:
    > Soul Tether + Proxi + VD + Sap Essence + VD = easy AP

    After listing all that I've realised that you're trolling.

    You wont pull of those against competent opponents.
  • Ariades_swe
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    o:)
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