Gankers and 1v1ers can't take "no" for an answer?

Jura23 · February 2016

When I get my butt kicked, no matter if by one person or small group, I often come back and try again. And often I even get killed again, but I take it how it is. No hard feelings and I expect the same from others. You did the right thing.

Didgerion · February 2016

Yeah that's what i'm doing now: In the sewers I go next to my base periodically pretending farming...it works like a charm - every 5 to 10 minutes i lure a gank

...it is much more enjoyable than ganking un-experienced players.

Cathexis · February 2016

eliisra wrote: »

More commonly the other way around lol.

Ganker kills a dude(that's busy with NPC's, mounted or another player) with some cheesy sneak attack combo.

Dude gets furious and sends ganker rage tells "1v1 me trash newb blah exploiter".

Ganker doesn't want to. Ganker has 5k weapon power, no recovery, dies from a sneeze and there's no way he can fight 1v1 in the open. Dude gets no 1v1 and mounts up, still insanely mad. Ganker insta-kills him all over again, whispers "L2P" and puts furious dude on ignore before he gets a chance to respond

This is a lot more accurate I think.

That's why my build explicitly tanks the *** out of people and then lays the smack down using skill instead of "gap close to win"

AtellusCalidus · February 2016

eliisra wrote: »

Ganker insta-kills him all over again, whispers "L2P" and puts furious dude on ignore before he gets a chance to respond

Which is also a way of showing how tarded you are tbh. If you are going to be griefing people at least don't be afkn d!ck about it.

Takes-No-Prisoner · February 2016

Cody wrote: »

1v1s dont prove a thing, they really don't.

You are right, because we have this coming out on Tuesday;

Reeko · February 2016

Ganking comes with the territory. Its pvp in an mmo people deal with it. I hate the people who send ME the hate messages telling me I AM the one who is trash for ganking them while they do dailys. Welcome to pvp kiddo.

Seriously though i too have had people try and gank me, some succesfull, most not. They call me trash and want to duel. I duel. They lose. Call my playstyle bitchy or lame. Duel them again with no ultimate or pots. Give them a handicap. Most of the time i still win. They start to make excuses. Its the lag, i bugged out, your lucky i skipped breakfast today, etc. Its funny at first but quickly gets annoying.

Speely · February 2016

Ganking is fine. So is rolling with a group that has other objectives. People getting butthurt about stuff and sending players ugly messages is poor form. I have never once felt that "this game should be played in this way by everyone" in any MMO I have played. I like to run solo or in small groups. A such, I have been absolutely facerolled by gankers (obv.) I have never once considered messaging any of the gankers that owned me. It's the game. The idea of gankers messaging you in a combative fashion is quite funny and sad.

KenaPKK · February 2016

Samuel_Bantien wrote: »

Roll a stam build.
Run 5 Shield Breaker.
Run a weighted bow.
Machine Gun down Shield Stacking Sorcs.
"1v1 me newb!1!!"
Initiate 1v1.
Machine Gun down Shield Stacking Sorc.
...
A good day in Cyrodiil.

-That look when I'm a level 11 nightblade getting asked to 1v1 a 25k shield stacking sorc.

bro step up ur game bro

When I wanna troll, I run 5pc Shieldbreaker, a lvl 1 purple weighted resto staff, and no other gear whatsoever.

The heads keep rolling, and the rage flows all the harder.

exeeter702 · February 2016

mcurley wrote: »

Ego is why. A ganker's ego is greatly marred when they attempt a gank and get themselves killed in the process.

They either underestimated your skill, overestimated their skill, or didn't bother really scouting out the situation before engaging you and your group. It is possible to gank a group but you have to have a solid plan of action before you engage.

Nothing hurts a ganker's ego more than them messing up... the rage tells are just their way of dealing with the humiliation.

The vocal ones at least.

On the contrary, when I go for a gank and fail, it's simply wash my hands and see what happened and move on, it's all pvp anyways. Then I get the mail from said player laughing at me or calling me a scrub or something. I just think to myself "um... ok dude just playing the game, I'm happy you feel super elite now"

Being an opportunist in open world pvp is am expected thing, it's a game and it has a sneak mechanic, you win some you lose some, get over it. Survive a gank attempt does not make you a hero or some higher being that made it out of some unjustified haneous crime. Those types of players generaly complain the most and view gankin as some kind of shameful act of cowardice. It's almost sad.

Jade1986 · February 2016

mcurley wrote: »

Cathexis wrote: »

This is actually part of the bigger problem I am seeing with pvp. There are a lot of players who love dueling, small scale, or uncoordinated combat. Many of them are very good players - a lot better than most players who roll around in zerg balls. The problem is you only have a pvp environment that supports large scale combat, with an increasing emphasis on group play only.

Where do those players go to pvp if you are going to eliminate those play styles entirely? Most will quit. I know I haven't logged in in a few days because it's not really enjoyable anymore. Players who don't want to play as a zerg or group are increasingly being forced out. It is shameful and looks really bad on the ESO community and I believe it will be what kills the game.

Arenas will solve this problem when they are implemented. I can't wait until I can queue up for small scale combat... wandering around trying to bait out gankers gets just as boring as rolling around in a zerg ball does.

Oh GOD! We do NOT need 4 v 4s. Maybe 8 v 8s, but not 4 v 4s. Arenas have just about murdered any pvp in every mmo since forever. WoW, SWTOR, etc. Maybe smaller scale than we have, but NOT 4 v 4s. We live in 2016, not 1995.

Reeko · February 2016

laced wrote: »

mcurley wrote: »

Cathexis wrote: »

This is actually part of the bigger problem I am seeing with pvp. There are a lot of players who love dueling, small scale, or uncoordinated combat. Many of them are very good players - a lot better than most players who roll around in zerg balls. The problem is you only have a pvp environment that supports large scale combat, with an increasing emphasis on group play only.

Where do those players go to pvp if you are going to eliminate those play styles entirely? Most will quit. I know I haven't logged in in a few days because it's not really enjoyable anymore. Players who don't want to play as a zerg or group are increasingly being forced out. It is shameful and looks really bad on the ESO community and I believe it will be what kills the game.

Arenas will solve this problem when they are implemented. I can't wait until I can queue up for small scale combat... wandering around trying to bait out gankers gets just as boring as rolling around in a zerg ball does.

Oh GOD! We do NOT need 4 v 4s. Maybe 8 v 8s, but not 4 v 4s. Arenas have just about murdered any pvp in every mmo since forever. WoW, SWTOR, etc. Maybe smaller scale than we have, but NOT 4 v 4s. We live in 2016, not 1995.

Uhh arenas was one of the best things to happen to wow pvp imo. And whats wrong with 4v4? 8v8 would just be an aoe spam fest. Honostly i feel 1v1 and 2v2 will become the most popluar.

Bossdonut · February 2016

I always agree to the 1v1 and then never show up and keep doing what I was doing.

Cody · February 2016

Bossdonut wrote: »

I always agree to the 1v1 and then never show up and keep doing what I was doing.

lol. If I ever get such a rage tell I will be sure to do that.

Psilent · February 2016

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

It's my own personal rule to deny all requests of "1v1 me brah." Mainly because it makes them even angrier.

I usually have this rule as well, except I just don't respond. However, yesterday when my girlfriend and I were duoing in the IC districts we got into a fun 2v2 with a Templar and a Sorcerer. They caught us right before we could leave Arboretum; we won the fight and moved on to the Temple district.

After we zone in we saw they both had followed us and the Templar kindly asks me for a rematch and that he had fun. I obliged and we fought again and beat them both for a second time. They resurrect quickly and come at us again and again and again. He whispers me again and says "I lost 500 Tel'var from you; I want it back!"

I laugh and say in TS, "They're going to keep coming.." Which they did, finally they brought two Greivious Twilights, both aggro on to me and add in an overload I go down. I rush back and kill the Sorc and we kill the Templar again. They come back, again, and we kill them both again. They then come again, but target another EP, so we kill them one more time. Then finally we are able to stealth away.

Then the rage whispers from the Sorc start piling on. Saying he'd wreck me in a 1v1 and started demanding a 1v1. Wondering why I use wrecking blow as a Stam DK. Add in tons of profanity and that myself and my girlfriend ruined his IC experience. Then at the end he asked if he could get his 500 Tel'var back.

On an unrelated note; I have a love/hate relationship with instant respawn in the IC Districts. The last two days of killing the same players over and over and over is annoying. However, it is what it is.

DjKahun · February 2016

Reeko wrote: »

Ganking comes with the territory. Its pvp in an mmo people deal with it. I hate the people who send ME the hate messages telling me I AM the one who is trash for ganking them while they do dailys. Welcome to pvp kiddo.

Seriously though i too have had people try and gank me, some succesfull, most not. They call me trash and want to duel. I duel. They lose. Call my playstyle bitchy or lame. Duel them again with no ultimate or pots. Give them a handicap. Most of the time i still win. They start to make excuses. Its the lag, i bugged out, your lucky i skipped breakfast today, etc. Its funny at first but quickly gets annoying.

It can be a bit unfair when there is a group of 4 V16 yellows ganking my low non vet character but I do always come back and put up a fight it's pvp in the end lol I personally think they are just a bunch of *** who wanna fight low levels because they can't put up a decent fight. Makes me laugh when they try to gank and fail

MidnightBlue · February 2016

mcurley wrote: »

Ego is why. A ganker's ego is greatly marred when they attempt a gank and get themselves killed in the process.

They either underestimated your skill, overestimated their skill, or didn't bother really scouting out the situation before engaging you and your group. It is possible to gank a group but you have to have a solid plan of action before you engage.

Nothing hurts a ganker's ego more than them messing up... the rage tells are just their way of dealing with the humiliation.

Not really. I was a ganker and I don't get mad or upset if I get killed. I went in knowing the risks. If anything I get more annoyed being ganked than me ganking.

MidnightBlue · February 2016

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

I'm still stuck on their reasoning as to why one would sit for hours in pvp waiting for pvers. Ganking people questing sounds like the most boring thing to do in pvp.

I didn't sit for hours, that's boring. I walk around or wait for a few minutes at the most. Funner than sieging keeps and taking resources, but if people questing want to be left alone I'll leave them alone. I don't gank questers anymore though.

EsoRecon · February 2016

AlphaNicole wrote: »

This has happened too many times. Me and my friends do cyrodiil town quests in various campaigns. Of course we come across gankers, but the gankers get wiped by us. The dead gankers then message me 9/10 times (probably because my gt is easy to spell) to 1v1, I politely refuse, then they raise hell in my inbox, getting salty saying "lol trash", "I can kill all of you in a 1v1" yea no one cares.

We just want to get these quests done, and will kill anything that gets in our way. I've had to block many people from messaging me, which is my personal solution to this. But seriously, why can't y'all take no for an answer?

I am exactly like the 1v1er. Except I don't message the zerglings unless they T-Bag me. Then its on, you crossed the line. I will then blow up their inbox till I get a response. And usually the zerglings call me a *** when I ask for a 1v1.... So it goes both ways you zerglings L2P then you can T-bag.

Takes-No-Prisoner · February 2016

MidnightBlue wrote: »

I didn't sit for hours, that's boring. I walk around or wait for a few minutes at the most. Funner than sieging keeps and taking resources, but if people questing want to be left alone I'll leave them alone. I don't gank questers anymore though.

Are you the one the OP was referring to? 1.0

SneaK · February 2016

I can't tell if I like ganking. (Quest hubs are a no-go though, I don't do that.)

The other day I took a couple thousand stones off a some guys and I felt so bad I messaged them offering to give it back. Like, I enjoy hunting ppl down like that, but I feel bad cause I know they're grinding and I know how much I hate grinding...

1st world problem.

LuminaLilly · February 2016

SneaK wrote: »

I can't tell if I like ganking. (Quest hubs are a no-go though, I don't do that.)

The other day I took a couple thousand stones off a some guys and I felt so bad I messaged them offering to give it back. Like, I enjoy hunting ppl down like that, but I feel bad cause I know they're grinding and I know how much I hate grinding...

1st world problem.

Same. I merked a guy with 300 stones, asked if he wanted it back via free kill. He said keep it.

eventide03b14a_ESO · February 2016

AlphaNicole wrote: »

This has happened too many times. Me and my friends do cyrodiil town quests in various campaigns. Of course we come across gankers, but the gankers get wiped by us. The dead gankers then message me 9/10 times (probably because my gt is easy to spell) to 1v1, I politely refuse, then they raise hell in my inbox, getting salty saying "lol trash", "I can kill all of you in a 1v1" yea no one cares.

We just want to get these quests done, and will kill anything that gets in our way. I've had to block many people from messaging me, which is my personal solution to this. But seriously, why can't y'all take no for an answer?

I never understood the need to message someone that killed me to challenge them or to tell them how bad they are. I also never understood the point in "teabagging". I think it boils down to poor sportsmanship.

Anzriel · February 2016

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

AlphaNicole wrote: »

This has happened too many times. Me and my friends do cyrodiil town quests in various campaigns. Of course we come across gankers, but the gankers get wiped by us. The dead gankers then message me 9/10 times (probably because my gt is easy to spell) to 1v1, I politely refuse, then they raise hell in my inbox, getting salty saying "lol trash", "I can kill all of you in a 1v1" yea no one cares.

We just want to get these quests done, and will kill anything that gets in our way. I've had to block many people from messaging me, which is my personal solution to this. But seriously, why can't y'all take no for an answer?

I never understood the need to message someone that killed me to challenge them or to tell them how bad they are. I also never understood the point in "teabagging". I think it boils down to poor sportsmanship.

It boils down to the players who take pvp way too seriously. Pvp is supposed to be fun, a way to test yourself. Some people's ego is way too fragile.

SupaSane · February 2016

AlphaNicole wrote: »

This has happened too many times. Me and my friends do cyrodiil town quests in various campaigns. Of course we come across gankers, but the gankers get wiped by us. The dead gankers then message me 9/10 times (probably because my gt is easy to spell) to 1v1, I politely refuse, then they raise hell in my inbox, getting salty saying "lol trash", "I can kill all of you in a 1v1" yea no one cares.

We just want to get these quests done, and will kill anything that gets in our way. I've had to block many people from messaging me, which is my personal solution to this. But seriously, why can't y'all take no for an answer?

That happens to me also. 1 guy always wants to 1v1 then runs away and gets his friends usually.

mcurley · February 2016

laced wrote: »

mcurley wrote: »

Cathexis wrote: »

This is actually part of the bigger problem I am seeing with pvp. There are a lot of players who love dueling, small scale, or uncoordinated combat. Many of them are very good players - a lot better than most players who roll around in zerg balls. The problem is you only have a pvp environment that supports large scale combat, with an increasing emphasis on group play only.

Where do those players go to pvp if you are going to eliminate those play styles entirely? Most will quit. I know I haven't logged in in a few days because it's not really enjoyable anymore. Players who don't want to play as a zerg or group are increasingly being forced out. It is shameful and looks really bad on the ESO community and I believe it will be what kills the game.

Arenas will solve this problem when they are implemented. I can't wait until I can queue up for small scale combat... wandering around trying to bait out gankers gets just as boring as rolling around in a zerg ball does.

Oh GOD! We do NOT need 4 v 4s. Maybe 8 v 8s, but not 4 v 4s. Arenas have just about murdered any pvp in every mmo since forever. WoW, SWTOR, etc. Maybe smaller scale than we have, but NOT 4 v 4s. We live in 2016, not 1995.

The scale doesn't matter to me as much as the structure.

exeeter702 wrote: »

mcurley wrote: »

Ego is why. A ganker's ego is greatly marred when they attempt a gank and get themselves killed in the process.

They either underestimated your skill, overestimated their skill, or didn't bother really scouting out the situation before engaging you and your group. It is possible to gank a group but you have to have a solid plan of action before you engage.

Nothing hurts a ganker's ego more than them messing up... the rage tells are just their way of dealing with the humiliation.

The vocal ones at least.

On the contrary, when I go for a gank and fail, it's simply wash my hands and see what happened and move on, it's all pvp anyways. Then I get the mail from said player laughing at me or calling me a scrub or something. I just think to myself "um... ok dude just playing the game, I'm happy you feel super elite now"

Being an opportunist in open world pvp is am expected thing, it's a game and it has a sneak mechanic, you win some you lose some, get over it. Survive a gank attempt does not make you a hero or some higher being that made it out of some unjustified haneous crime. Those types of players generaly complain the most and view gankin as some kind of shameful act of cowardice. It's almost sad.

This thread is specifically talking about the vocal ones. I gank all the time... it's a lot of fun as long as you don't get butthurt when you die.

PeggymoeXD · February 2016

Samuel_Bantien wrote: »

Roll a stam build.
Run 5 Shield Breaker.
Run a weighted bow.
Machine Gun down Shield Stacking Sorcs.
"1v1 me newb!1!!"
Initiate 1v1.
Machine Gun down Shield Stacking Sorc.
...
A good day in Cyrodiil.

-That look when I'm a level 11 nightblade getting asked to 1v1 a 25k shield stacking sorc.

I sometimes run SB in Cyrodiil (as a stam dk) but take it off when 1v1'ing sorcs. It's absolutely hilarious to me how upset people get sometimes because of other players using a legitimate game mechanic to gain an advantage.

Once I was challenged to a 1v1 by a sorc, but mid-fight he called it off because I was running SB (which I wasn't) Even though I listed my gear, which was probably hundings rage or something super basic, he said I was destroying his shields even when they were active. I told him he just had super low HP, and it was my weapons, which both have irresistible damage glyphs on them. And if someone has low health, it will definitely eat through them just like SB would. So he demanded I use different weapons. At that point I told him he was an idiot and I'm not wasting my time just so I can end up stripping all of my gear off to give him a handicap because he needs to l2p.

Tune in next week for another Peggy's Story Corner, where I'll be talking about a 1v1 with a zergling. Sneak Peek: there was a lot of steel tornado spam.

NativeJoe · February 2016

AlphaNicole wrote: »

This has happened too many times. Me and my friends do cyrodiil town quests in various campaigns. Of course we come across gankers, but the gankers get wiped by us. The dead gankers then message me 9/10 times (probably because my gt is easy to spell) to 1v1, I politely refuse, then they raise hell in my inbox, getting salty saying "lol trash", "I can kill all of you in a 1v1" yea no one cares.

We just want to get these quests done, and will kill anything that gets in our way. I've had to block many people from messaging me, which is my personal solution to this. But seriously, why can't y'all take no for an answer?

When people send you hate mail, or send you lude comments, take it as a compliment. For myself... If they're good enough and I could learn something from them I make friends out of them, and will even throw a dual if I can extract some decent info out of them. If I need some cheering up, or their just terrible players and have no right to be messaging me...then I get mouthy back (never breaking the TOS with foul language) but say whatever it takes to make them more entertaining.

Rylana · February 2016

The last idiot that sent me a "1v1 me noob" sorta tell spent the rest of the night getting ganked by me over, and over, and over, and over, and over.

It was always 1v1. >_> What more ya want, scrub.

Rylana · February 2016

PeggymoeXD wrote: »

Samuel_Bantien wrote: »

Roll a stam build.
Run 5 Shield Breaker.
Run a weighted bow.
Machine Gun down Shield Stacking Sorcs.
"1v1 me newb!1!!"
Initiate 1v1.
Machine Gun down Shield Stacking Sorc.
...
A good day in Cyrodiil.

-That look when I'm a level 11 nightblade getting asked to 1v1 a 25k shield stacking sorc.

I sometimes run SB in Cyrodiil (as a stam dk) but take it off when 1v1'ing sorcs. It's absolutely hilarious to me how upset people get sometimes because of other players using a legitimate game mechanic to gain an advantage.

Once I was challenged to a 1v1 by a sorc, but mid-fight he called it off because I was running SB (which I wasn't) Even though I listed my gear, which was probably hundings rage or something super basic, he said I was destroying his shields even when they were active. I told him he just had super low HP, and it was my weapons, which both have irresistible damage glyphs on them. And if someone has low health, it will definitely eat through them just like SB would. So he demanded I use different weapons. At that point I told him he was an idiot and I'm not wasting my time just so I can end up stripping all of my gear off to give him a handicap because he needs to l2p.

Tune in next week for another Peggy's Story Corner, where I'll be talking about a 1v1 with a zergling. Sneak Peek: there was a lot of steel tornado spam.

This is the main reason I dont duel. No matter what, the guy with the egohurt makes every goddamned excuse, demands this, that, dont use this, cant use that. Ahhh shut up and fight ya noob,

Cant stand it. Those that have had the "pleasure" of catching me 1v1 in the field knows i am competent, fair, and deadly. Win some lose some. But to sit in a "controlled setting" where they are gonna script for me what I can do? Yeah hell no.

Takes-No-Prisoner · February 2016

PeggymoeXD wrote: »

Once I was challenged to a 1v1 by a sorc,

Shouldn't have wasted your time... However, none could of expected that outcome. From your story's PoV that Sorc was just

He needs to put some Stainless Steel on that Hardend Ward 1.0