Questions about Cyrodiil.

Julianos

In crowded battles my fps drops to 10-15 i cant see whats going on around me. Is it like that for everyone or just me ? Is there monster computers that can handle the crowded battles above 40-60 fps ?

Also some players kills me in 1 second litarally. Experienced that many times when my fps high like 40+ and my ping was low. I checked the death recap there was 1 ambush 1 weapon enchant damage and 5 suprise attack and total damage wasnt euqual to my total health but i died. There was no any light attack or heavy attack so it wasnt animation canceling. How come someone can cast 6 attack in just 1 second ?

And is CC immunity bugged ? I get knockback then i break free in that moment i get fear or another CC. Im getting chain CCs.

tinythinker

That sounds about right.

Laguz

better computers get better fps, you getting killed is a l2p issue, and yes cc immunity is bugged.

Julianos

tinythinker wrote: »

That sounds about right.

So ESO's PVP just about lag, exploits and random shooting... Not worth to invest time:/

Julianos

Laguz wrote: »

you getting killed is a l2p issue

Nope its not.

DeanTheCat

It's not possible to execute 1 Ambush + 5 Surprise Attacks in 1 second. Every single ability has a 1.3 second GCD between each activation. This means you were killed in 6.5 seconds, which is honestly quite a long time. Unless you were attacked by multiple opponents, in which case you can chalk it up to being outnumbered and you overextending yourself (Which we will have no way of knowing unless you post a Death Recap or a Combat Log).

The lag is a constant issue though. One that ZOS is working to fix, though without much success. CC-Immunity isn't currently working as intended, so you occasionally get chain CC-ed.

If you wish to learn more about fighting and survival in Cyrodiil, I wrote a guide on how to survive in Cyrodiil. The link to the guide is in my signature.

Digerati

Ping has been out of control in Cyrodiils because there is a large number of players who have circumvented the caps and queues to overload the popular campaigns. Go check out an empty campaign and watch the pings...

Your frames are because your system sucks. There's an addon available that automatically scales your settings to preserve frames, have you looked into it (i've never used it because my system doesn't suck)?

No one hit you with 5 surprise attacks in "litarally" 1 second. That's not accurate.

CC immunity is a fickle beast.

Try BwB until you've matured a little bit?

dem0n1k

The framerate issues in Cyrodiil where your framerate drops to 10-11fps is not because your system sucks... it's a bug. Sure, framerate will drop when there are more players & effects on screen... but where is drops to 10-11 is a known bug & there are lots of threads about the issue. I recently (last Friday) upgraded my video card from a GTX660Ti to GTX980 & while the overall framerate is higher... i STILL get situations (only in Cyrodiil) where my framerate drops to 10-11fps & it's like moving through treacle.

Wollust

Welcome to Cyrodiil, where we play with a crap FPS even with super amazing freaking expensive computers and where the buggy CC has been part of any QQ since.. ever?

Xendyn

You're doing well, mine can drop to 1 or 2.

Never did that until the IC patch btw.

tinythinker

Xendyn wrote: »

You're doing well, mine can drop to 1 or 2.

Never did that until the IC patch btw.

I got to 1-2 in summer 2014 after patch 1.2. Here's what I wrote about at the time...

tinythinker wrote: »

But my favorite of the two recent close calls came last night when I tried logging onto Cyrodiil amidst all of the lag and s-s-s-l-l-l-o-o-o-w-w-w... l-l-l-o-o-o-a-a-d-d-i-i-i-n-n-g-g-g graphics... which at times resembled a slide slow presentation:

I saw a slide of allies ahead of me engaging the enemy...

*click*

A slide of my allies dying...

*click*

A slide of being surrounded by hostile forces...

*click*

A slide of me trying to run away while spamming heals....

*click*

A slide of over a dozen goblins fighting for the Pact rushing in to turn the tide...

At that point graphics improved slightly and I followed the merry band of goblins to the next battle where I lost track of them.

Julianos

DeanTheCat wrote: »

It's not possible to execute 1 Ambush + 5 Surprise Attacks in 1 second. Every single ability has a 1.3 second GCD between each activation. This means you were killed in 6.5 seconds, which is honestly quite a long time. Unless you were attacked by multiple opponents, in which case you can chalk it up to being outnumbered and you overextending yourself (Which we will have no way of knowing unless you post a Death Recap or a Combat Log).

The lag is a constant issue though. One that ZOS is working to fix, though without much success. CC-Immunity isn't currently working as intended, so you occasionally get chain CC-ed.

If you wish to learn more about fighting and survival in Cyrodiil, I wrote a guide on how to survive in Cyrodiil. The link to the guide is in my signature.

You dont need to explain the global cooldown and combat mechanics to me and thanks but i know how to fight and survive. Some people kills me in 1 sec(1on1) its either huge spike lag or exploit and since this is ESO i suspect its a bug/exploit or macro:/

Julianos

dem0n1k wrote: »

The framerate issues in Cyrodiil where your framerate drops to 10-11fps is not because your system sucks... it's a bug. Sure, framerate will drop when there are more players & effects on screen... but where is drops to 10-11 is a known bug & there are lots of threads about the issue. I recently (last Friday) upgraded my video card from a GTX660Ti to GTX980 & while the overall framerate is higher... i STILL get situations (only in Cyrodiil) where my framerate drops to 10-11fps & it's like moving through treacle.

Im using amd radeon HD 6950 bought in january in 2011. Outside of cyrodiil my fps 60+ in ultra in deshaan it drops to 30s because of the crowd.

But i dont think its graphic card issue its the processor.

Wollust

Axorn wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

It's not possible to execute 1 Ambush + 5 Surprise Attacks in 1 second. Every single ability has a 1.3 second GCD between each activation. This means you were killed in 6.5 seconds, which is honestly quite a long time. Unless you were attacked by multiple opponents, in which case you can chalk it up to being outnumbered and you overextending yourself (Which we will have no way of knowing unless you post a Death Recap or a Combat Log).

The lag is a constant issue though. One that ZOS is working to fix, though without much success. CC-Immunity isn't currently working as intended, so you occasionally get chain CC-ed.

If you wish to learn more about fighting and survival in Cyrodiil, I wrote a guide on how to survive in Cyrodiil. The link to the guide is in my signature.

You dont need to explain the global cooldown and combat mechanics to me and thanks but i know how to fight and survive. Some people kills me in 1 sec(1on1) its either huge spike lag or exploit and since this is ESO i suspect its a bug/exploit or macro:/

Sigh. Macros can not bypass the global cooldown. You people need to learn this. Macros are not godmode. People who use macros are just lazy and stupid morons but they do not get to use 6394629 abilities in a second.
And yes, you can be oneshotted these days. Easily doable. Most of the time with camou hunter, which is sometimes buggy and doesn't show up on death recaps. Or only once even though it hit multiple times.

Jennifur_Vultee

Axorn wrote: »

In crowded battles my fps drops to 10-15 i cant see whats going on around me.

What Daedric Prince did you sacrifice to to get 10-15 fps in big battles? In large fights I'm getting 4-8 fps with ping 200+ and sometimes things just stop a few seconds. I play in Azura's Star North America on PC.

Julianos

Jennifur_Vultee wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

In crowded battles my fps drops to 10-15 i cant see whats going on around me.

What Daedric Prince did you sacrifice to to get 10-15 fps in big battles? In large fights I'm getting 4-8 fps with ping 200+ and sometimes things just stop a few seconds. I play in Azura's Star North America on PC.

If everyone having such low fps then ZOS should stop being stubborn on huge scale PVP. Having under 30 fps on pvp is not acceptable, my efforts my tactics my items my gameplay my time is going to waste on 10 fps. Its immposible to make counter attack or counter defense while my char criplling. Its like a permanent CC on me, PVP is about reflex and timing. But game cant keep up with my reflexes. ZOS please give us 10vs10/15vs15 pvp instances. :'(

DeanTheCat

Axorn wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

It's not possible to execute 1 Ambush + 5 Surprise Attacks in 1 second. Every single ability has a 1.3 second GCD between each activation. This means you were killed in 6.5 seconds, which is honestly quite a long time. Unless you were attacked by multiple opponents, in which case you can chalk it up to being outnumbered and you overextending yourself (Which we will have no way of knowing unless you post a Death Recap or a Combat Log).

The lag is a constant issue though. One that ZOS is working to fix, though without much success. CC-Immunity isn't currently working as intended, so you occasionally get chain CC-ed.

If you wish to learn more about fighting and survival in Cyrodiil, I wrote a guide on how to survive in Cyrodiil. The link to the guide is in my signature.

You dont need to explain the global cooldown and combat mechanics to me and thanks but i know how to fight and survive. Some people kills me in 1 sec(1on1) its either huge spike lag or exploit and since this is ESO i suspect its a bug/exploit or macro:/

Oh trust me, I can kill any player sub-23k health in 1 second, and any player sub-30k health in 2 seconds. This is thanks to my 4.7k weapon damage and 38k stamina. A simple Heavy Attack + Surprise Attack sends most players to the grave if I can land it from stealth. If you are a vampire... Let's just say I can one shot a vampire emperor that let's his guard down.

There isn't much that survives 11k unblocked Surprise Attacks for long. That's how stupidly powerful max geared VR16s with BiS gear is. Just because you died in one second doesn't mean it's a macro. Macros will never let you bypass the GCD. The engine simply won't allow it.

Also, if you think 11k surprise attacks is high, you haven't seen a 16k Wrecking Blow yet.

NightRibon23444

That's the OP nightblade crap ZOS need to work on.

DeanTheCat

NightRibon23444 wrote: »

That's the OP nightblade crap ZOS need to work on.

4.7k Weapon Damage isn't exclusive to Nightblades, nor is 38k stamina. Pretty much any stamina based damage ability will hit like a truck when it's powered by that kind of stats (Incidently, Stamplars can 1 shot people with Jabs with that kind of Weapon Damage and Stamina fuelling their assault)

Prodigy1971

DeanTheCat wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

It's not possible to execute 1 Ambush + 5 Surprise Attacks in 1 second. Every single ability has a 1.3 second GCD between each activation. This means you were killed in 6.5 seconds, which is honestly quite a long time. Unless you were attacked by multiple opponents, in which case you can chalk it up to being outnumbered and you overextending yourself (Which we will have no way of knowing unless you post a Death Recap or a Combat Log).

The lag is a constant issue though. One that ZOS is working to fix, though without much success. CC-Immunity isn't currently working as intended, so you occasionally get chain CC-ed.

If you wish to learn more about fighting and survival in Cyrodiil, I wrote a guide on how to survive in Cyrodiil. The link to the guide is in my signature.

You dont need to explain the global cooldown and combat mechanics to me and thanks but i know how to fight and survive. Some people kills me in 1 sec(1on1) its either huge spike lag or exploit and since this is ESO i suspect its a bug/exploit or macro:/

Oh trust me, I can kill any player sub-23k health in 1 second, and any player sub-30k health in 2 seconds. This is thanks to my 4.7k weapon damage and 38k stamina. A simple Heavy Attack + Surprise Attack sends most players to the grave if I can land it from stealth. If you are a vampire... Let's just say I can one shot a vampire emperor that let's his guard down.

There isn't much that survives 11k unblocked Surprise Attacks for long. That's how stupidly powerful max geared VR16s with BiS gear is. Just because you died in one second doesn't mean it's a macro. Macros will never let you bypass the GCD. The engine simply won't allow it.

Also, if you think 11k surprise attacks is high, you haven't seen a 16k Wrecking Blow yet.

You didnt understand what the OP said.

He wasnt one-shot or two-shot. He died in 1 second and there where 6 attacks in this 1 second. And this is literally impossible.

Julianos

Prodigy1971 wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

It's not possible to execute 1 Ambush + 5 Surprise Attacks in 1 second. Every single ability has a 1.3 second GCD between each activation. This means you were killed in 6.5 seconds, which is honestly quite a long time. Unless you were attacked by multiple opponents, in which case you can chalk it up to being outnumbered and you overextending yourself (Which we will have no way of knowing unless you post a Death Recap or a Combat Log).

The lag is a constant issue though. One that ZOS is working to fix, though without much success. CC-Immunity isn't currently working as intended, so you occasionally get chain CC-ed.

If you wish to learn more about fighting and survival in Cyrodiil, I wrote a guide on how to survive in Cyrodiil. The link to the guide is in my signature.

You dont need to explain the global cooldown and combat mechanics to me and thanks but i know how to fight and survive. Some people kills me in 1 sec(1on1) its either huge spike lag or exploit and since this is ESO i suspect its a bug/exploit or macro:/

Oh trust me, I can kill any player sub-23k health in 1 second, and any player sub-30k health in 2 seconds. This is thanks to my 4.7k weapon damage and 38k stamina. A simple Heavy Attack + Surprise Attack sends most players to the grave if I can land it from stealth. If you are a vampire... Let's just say I can one shot a vampire emperor that let's his guard down.

There isn't much that survives 11k unblocked Surprise Attacks for long. That's how stupidly powerful max geared VR16s with BiS gear is. Just because you died in one second doesn't mean it's a macro. Macros will never let you bypass the GCD. The engine simply won't allow it.

Also, if you think 11k surprise attacks is high, you haven't seen a 16k Wrecking Blow yet.

You didnt understand what the OP said.

He wasnt one-shot or two-shot. He died in 1 second and there where 6 attacks in this 1 second. And this is literally impossible.

Yup dean the cat refuse to understand noone hits me 11k or 16k im full impenetrable and invest %20 crit damage reduce on constallation. highest damage i take is around 6k so far so damage stacking NBs can suck it. I didnt even mention about damage taken values. But if you insist that nb who killed me his suprise attack was around 3,5k on me

DeanTheCat

Prodigy1971 wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

It's not possible to execute 1 Ambush + 5 Surprise Attacks in 1 second. Every single ability has a 1.3 second GCD between each activation. This means you were killed in 6.5 seconds, which is honestly quite a long time. Unless you were attacked by multiple opponents, in which case you can chalk it up to being outnumbered and you overextending yourself (Which we will have no way of knowing unless you post a Death Recap or a Combat Log).

The lag is a constant issue though. One that ZOS is working to fix, though without much success. CC-Immunity isn't currently working as intended, so you occasionally get chain CC-ed.

If you wish to learn more about fighting and survival in Cyrodiil, I wrote a guide on how to survive in Cyrodiil. The link to the guide is in my signature.

You dont need to explain the global cooldown and combat mechanics to me and thanks but i know how to fight and survive. Some people kills me in 1 sec(1on1) its either huge spike lag or exploit and since this is ESO i suspect its a bug/exploit or macro:/

Oh trust me, I can kill any player sub-23k health in 1 second, and any player sub-30k health in 2 seconds. This is thanks to my 4.7k weapon damage and 38k stamina. A simple Heavy Attack + Surprise Attack sends most players to the grave if I can land it from stealth. If you are a vampire... Let's just say I can one shot a vampire emperor that let's his guard down.

There isn't much that survives 11k unblocked Surprise Attacks for long. That's how stupidly powerful max geared VR16s with BiS gear is. Just because you died in one second doesn't mean it's a macro. Macros will never let you bypass the GCD. The engine simply won't allow it.

Also, if you think 11k surprise attacks is high, you haven't seen a 16k Wrecking Blow yet.

You didnt understand what the OP said.

He wasnt one-shot or two-shot. He died in 1 second and there where 6 attacks in this 1 second. And this is literally impossible.

That reply was in regards to the 1 second part (Which happens to be perfectly possible within normal game mechanics). My original post was telling the OP that the game engine will not allow this, and there is no exploit/macro that can bypass the GCD cycle. As you said it, literally impossible.

It just feels to me that this is a post made by a really angry person who has failed to understand the underlying mechanics behind GCD. Lag is a valid complaint, and I even acknowledged that in my first post. I aim to spread information, and I will continue to do so. Time is also a relative thing. One's perception of "1 second" may be in fact be 2-3 seconds. Hence I feel that he failed to read and understand the mechanics and the changing battle conditions, so I offered him help, to which I only got a rude reply for my trouble.

Axorn wrote: »

Prodigy1971 wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

It's not possible to execute 1 Ambush + 5 Surprise Attacks in 1 second. Every single ability has a 1.3 second GCD between each activation. This means you were killed in 6.5 seconds, which is honestly quite a long time. Unless you were attacked by multiple opponents, in which case you can chalk it up to being outnumbered and you overextending yourself (Which we will have no way of knowing unless you post a Death Recap or a Combat Log).

The lag is a constant issue though. One that ZOS is working to fix, though without much success. CC-Immunity isn't currently working as intended, so you occasionally get chain CC-ed.

If you wish to learn more about fighting and survival in Cyrodiil, I wrote a guide on how to survive in Cyrodiil. The link to the guide is in my signature.

You dont need to explain the global cooldown and combat mechanics to me and thanks but i know how to fight and survive. Some people kills me in 1 sec(1on1) its either huge spike lag or exploit and since this is ESO i suspect its a bug/exploit or macro:/

Oh trust me, I can kill any player sub-23k health in 1 second, and any player sub-30k health in 2 seconds. This is thanks to my 4.7k weapon damage and 38k stamina. A simple Heavy Attack + Surprise Attack sends most players to the grave if I can land it from stealth. If you are a vampire... Let's just say I can one shot a vampire emperor that let's his guard down.

There isn't much that survives 11k unblocked Surprise Attacks for long. That's how stupidly powerful max geared VR16s with BiS gear is. Just because you died in one second doesn't mean it's a macro. Macros will never let you bypass the GCD. The engine simply won't allow it.

Also, if you think 11k surprise attacks is high, you haven't seen a 16k Wrecking Blow yet.

You didnt understand what the OP said.

He wasnt one-shot or two-shot. He died in 1 second and there where 6 attacks in this 1 second. And this is literally impossible.

Yup dean the cat refuse to understand noone hits me 11k or 16k im full impenetrable and invest %20 crit damage reduce on constallation. highest damage i take is around 6k so far so damage stacking NBs can suck it. I didnt even mention about damage taken values. But if you insist that nb who killed me his suprise attack was around 3,5k on me

You offer no context, nor any form of screenshots of death recaps/combat logs/character sheets, and anyone who reads this forum thread can only see what little (and barely useful) information that you left here. Therefore, I draw conclusions based on whatever information you provide and existing knowledge of mechanics. I call you out on dubious claims, to which I only get vitriol for trying to help. (Summoning @Master_Kas)

If you only wish to hear opinions that resonate with your own, may I suggest in the future not posting on a public forum? Threads are called "Discussions" for a reason, and not "Monologues".

Julianos

DeanTheCat wrote: »

Prodigy1971 wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

It's not possible to execute 1 Ambush + 5 Surprise Attacks in 1 second. Every single ability has a 1.3 second GCD between each activation. This means you were killed in 6.5 seconds, which is honestly quite a long time. Unless you were attacked by multiple opponents, in which case you can chalk it up to being outnumbered and you overextending yourself (Which we will have no way of knowing unless you post a Death Recap or a Combat Log).

The lag is a constant issue though. One that ZOS is working to fix, though without much success. CC-Immunity isn't currently working as intended, so you occasionally get chain CC-ed.

If you wish to learn more about fighting and survival in Cyrodiil, I wrote a guide on how to survive in Cyrodiil. The link to the guide is in my signature.

You dont need to explain the global cooldown and combat mechanics to me and thanks but i know how to fight and survive. Some people kills me in 1 sec(1on1) its either huge spike lag or exploit and since this is ESO i suspect its a bug/exploit or macro:/

Oh trust me, I can kill any player sub-23k health in 1 second, and any player sub-30k health in 2 seconds. This is thanks to my 4.7k weapon damage and 38k stamina. A simple Heavy Attack + Surprise Attack sends most players to the grave if I can land it from stealth. If you are a vampire... Let's just say I can one shot a vampire emperor that let's his guard down.

There isn't much that survives 11k unblocked Surprise Attacks for long. That's how stupidly powerful max geared VR16s with BiS gear is. Just because you died in one second doesn't mean it's a macro. Macros will never let you bypass the GCD. The engine simply won't allow it.

Also, if you think 11k surprise attacks is high, you haven't seen a 16k Wrecking Blow yet.

You didnt understand what the OP said.

He wasnt one-shot or two-shot. He died in 1 second and there where 6 attacks in this 1 second. And this is literally impossible.

That reply was in regards to the 1 second part (Which happens to be perfectly possible within normal game mechanics). My original post was telling the OP that the game engine will not allow this, and there is no exploit/macro that can bypass the GCD cycle. As you said it, literally impossible.

It just feels to me that this is a post made by a really angry person who has failed to understand the underlying mechanics behind GCD. Lag is a valid complaint, and I even acknowledged that in my first post. I aim to spread information, and I will continue to do so. Time is also a relative thing. One's perception of "1 second" may be in fact be 2-3 seconds. Hence I feel that he failed to read and understand the mechanics and the changing battle conditions, so I offered him help, to which I only got a rude reply for my trouble.

Axorn wrote: »

Prodigy1971 wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

It's not possible to execute 1 Ambush + 5 Surprise Attacks in 1 second. Every single ability has a 1.3 second GCD between each activation. This means you were killed in 6.5 seconds, which is honestly quite a long time. Unless you were attacked by multiple opponents, in which case you can chalk it up to being outnumbered and you overextending yourself (Which we will have no way of knowing unless you post a Death Recap or a Combat Log).

The lag is a constant issue though. One that ZOS is working to fix, though without much success. CC-Immunity isn't currently working as intended, so you occasionally get chain CC-ed.

If you wish to learn more about fighting and survival in Cyrodiil, I wrote a guide on how to survive in Cyrodiil. The link to the guide is in my signature.

You dont need to explain the global cooldown and combat mechanics to me and thanks but i know how to fight and survive. Some people kills me in 1 sec(1on1) its either huge spike lag or exploit and since this is ESO i suspect its a bug/exploit or macro:/

Oh trust me, I can kill any player sub-23k health in 1 second, and any player sub-30k health in 2 seconds. This is thanks to my 4.7k weapon damage and 38k stamina. A simple Heavy Attack + Surprise Attack sends most players to the grave if I can land it from stealth. If you are a vampire... Let's just say I can one shot a vampire emperor that let's his guard down.

There isn't much that survives 11k unblocked Surprise Attacks for long. That's how stupidly powerful max geared VR16s with BiS gear is. Just because you died in one second doesn't mean it's a macro. Macros will never let you bypass the GCD. The engine simply won't allow it.

Also, if you think 11k surprise attacks is high, you haven't seen a 16k Wrecking Blow yet.

You didnt understand what the OP said.

He wasnt one-shot or two-shot. He died in 1 second and there where 6 attacks in this 1 second. And this is literally impossible.

Yup dean the cat refuse to understand noone hits me 11k or 16k im full impenetrable and invest %20 crit damage reduce on constallation. highest damage i take is around 6k so far so damage stacking NBs can suck it. I didnt even mention about damage taken values. But if you insist that nb who killed me his suprise attack was around 3,5k on me

You offer no context, nor any form of screenshots of death recaps/combat logs/character sheets, and anyone who reads this forum thread can only see what little (and barely useful) information that you left here. Therefore, I draw conclusions based on whatever information you provide and existing knowledge of mechanics. I call you out on dubious claims, to which I only get vitriol for trying to help. (Summoning @Master_Kas)

If you only wish to hear opinions that resonate with your own, may I suggest in the future not posting on a public forum? Threads are called "Discussions" for a reason, and not "Monologues".

I posted what was happened to me and it wasnt just 1 time some people killed me in 1 sec with lots of attacks which is not possible with current mechanics also i didnt claim its %100 exploit i just questioned, it might be an exploit and i was hoping maybe someone has info about that. Also how im going to prove that ? I cant just record video non stop while im in cyrodiil my computer barely handle cyrodiil. You don't need to lecture to me about mechanics or things in the game i ve been playing mmos for 20 years.. And i dont trust ESO about mechanics there been tons of exploits since the launch recently i heard about invisible people in cyrodiil... I wasnt angry at all because i died...

If you just not happy with my post then just dont read it. I didnt create this post to spread info i was questioning.
And i suggest in the future dont post on public forums before learn to read and understand the meaning ?


My post doesnt violate any forum rules. But your posts is because you starting off topic arguments without understand and being a forum police. You can show off on someone else post or your own posts if you dont like my post just dont read it.

DeanTheCat

Axorn wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

Prodigy1971 wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

It's not possible to execute 1 Ambush + 5 Surprise Attacks in 1 second. Every single ability has a 1.3 second GCD between each activation. This means you were killed in 6.5 seconds, which is honestly quite a long time. Unless you were attacked by multiple opponents, in which case you can chalk it up to being outnumbered and you overextending yourself (Which we will have no way of knowing unless you post a Death Recap or a Combat Log).

The lag is a constant issue though. One that ZOS is working to fix, though without much success. CC-Immunity isn't currently working as intended, so you occasionally get chain CC-ed.

If you wish to learn more about fighting and survival in Cyrodiil, I wrote a guide on how to survive in Cyrodiil. The link to the guide is in my signature.

You dont need to explain the global cooldown and combat mechanics to me and thanks but i know how to fight and survive. Some people kills me in 1 sec(1on1) its either huge spike lag or exploit and since this is ESO i suspect its a bug/exploit or macro:/

Oh trust me, I can kill any player sub-23k health in 1 second, and any player sub-30k health in 2 seconds. This is thanks to my 4.7k weapon damage and 38k stamina. A simple Heavy Attack + Surprise Attack sends most players to the grave if I can land it from stealth. If you are a vampire... Let's just say I can one shot a vampire emperor that let's his guard down.

There isn't much that survives 11k unblocked Surprise Attacks for long. That's how stupidly powerful max geared VR16s with BiS gear is. Just because you died in one second doesn't mean it's a macro. Macros will never let you bypass the GCD. The engine simply won't allow it.

Also, if you think 11k surprise attacks is high, you haven't seen a 16k Wrecking Blow yet.

You didnt understand what the OP said.

He wasnt one-shot or two-shot. He died in 1 second and there where 6 attacks in this 1 second. And this is literally impossible.

That reply was in regards to the 1 second part (Which happens to be perfectly possible within normal game mechanics). My original post was telling the OP that the game engine will not allow this, and there is no exploit/macro that can bypass the GCD cycle. As you said it, literally impossible.

It just feels to me that this is a post made by a really angry person who has failed to understand the underlying mechanics behind GCD. Lag is a valid complaint, and I even acknowledged that in my first post. I aim to spread information, and I will continue to do so. Time is also a relative thing. One's perception of "1 second" may be in fact be 2-3 seconds. Hence I feel that he failed to read and understand the mechanics and the changing battle conditions, so I offered him help, to which I only got a rude reply for my trouble.

Axorn wrote: »

Prodigy1971 wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

It's not possible to execute 1 Ambush + 5 Surprise Attacks in 1 second. Every single ability has a 1.3 second GCD between each activation. This means you were killed in 6.5 seconds, which is honestly quite a long time. Unless you were attacked by multiple opponents, in which case you can chalk it up to being outnumbered and you overextending yourself (Which we will have no way of knowing unless you post a Death Recap or a Combat Log).

The lag is a constant issue though. One that ZOS is working to fix, though without much success. CC-Immunity isn't currently working as intended, so you occasionally get chain CC-ed.

If you wish to learn more about fighting and survival in Cyrodiil, I wrote a guide on how to survive in Cyrodiil. The link to the guide is in my signature.

You dont need to explain the global cooldown and combat mechanics to me and thanks but i know how to fight and survive. Some people kills me in 1 sec(1on1) its either huge spike lag or exploit and since this is ESO i suspect its a bug/exploit or macro:/

Oh trust me, I can kill any player sub-23k health in 1 second, and any player sub-30k health in 2 seconds. This is thanks to my 4.7k weapon damage and 38k stamina. A simple Heavy Attack + Surprise Attack sends most players to the grave if I can land it from stealth. If you are a vampire... Let's just say I can one shot a vampire emperor that let's his guard down.

There isn't much that survives 11k unblocked Surprise Attacks for long. That's how stupidly powerful max geared VR16s with BiS gear is. Just because you died in one second doesn't mean it's a macro. Macros will never let you bypass the GCD. The engine simply won't allow it.

Also, if you think 11k surprise attacks is high, you haven't seen a 16k Wrecking Blow yet.

You didnt understand what the OP said.

He wasnt one-shot or two-shot. He died in 1 second and there where 6 attacks in this 1 second. And this is literally impossible.

Yup dean the cat refuse to understand noone hits me 11k or 16k im full impenetrable and invest %20 crit damage reduce on constallation. highest damage i take is around 6k so far so damage stacking NBs can suck it. I didnt even mention about damage taken values. But if you insist that nb who killed me his suprise attack was around 3,5k on me

You offer no context, nor any form of screenshots of death recaps/combat logs/character sheets, and anyone who reads this forum thread can only see what little (and barely useful) information that you left here. Therefore, I draw conclusions based on whatever information you provide and existing knowledge of mechanics. I call you out on dubious claims, to which I only get vitriol for trying to help. (Summoning @Master_Kas)

If you only wish to hear opinions that resonate with your own, may I suggest in the future not posting on a public forum? Threads are called "Discussions" for a reason, and not "Monologues".

I posted what was happened to me and it wasnt just 1 time some people killed me in 1 sec with lots of attacks which is not possible with current mechanics also i didnt claim its %100 exploit i just questioned, it might be an exploit and i was hoping maybe someone has info about that. Also how im going to prove that ? I cant just record video non stop while im in cyrodiil my computer barely handle cyrodiil. You don't need to lecture to me about mechanics or things in the game i ve been playing mmos for 20 years.. And i dont trust ESO about mechanics there been tons of exploits since the launch recently i heard about invisible people in cyrodiil... I wasnt angry at all because i died...

If you just not happy with my post then just dont read it. I didnt create this post to spread info i was questioning.
And i suggest in the future dont post on public forums before learn to read and understand the meaning ?


My post doesnt violate any forum rules. But your posts is because you starting off topic arguments without understand and being a forum police. You can show off on someone else post or your own posts if you dont like my post just dont read it.

A simple screenshot would go a long way to helping readers understand what is going on in your complaints as we can't tell right now if you died to lag, being outnumbered or due to your own mistakes. It's your own fault if you get replies that you don't like if you don't offer any context to back it up.

ESO is nothing like the other cookie cutter MMOs over the past years, therefore past experiences don't apply. You may understand the mechanics perfectly in another game, but that is no guarantee that you'll understand them perfectly in this game, especially since is obvious from your post that you are new to Cyrodiil. Cyrodiil and PvE have completely separate learning curves, so you can toss out most of what you gotten used to in PvE when entering Cyrodiil.

If you look up the thread, the people who are telling you that you lack understanding and how what you say are not possible are also incidently the veterans and legends of Cyrodiil. These are the people who know the Cyrodiilic battlefield like the back of their hand, and most of them haven't bothered to reply because of your vitriol spewing. Personally, I'm not sure why I even bother typing this to try and help when it's obvious you don't want to learn.

And no, your post doesn't violate forum rules, but the way you deal with people trying to help will get you no constructive answers. Ask nicely without the vitriol, the answers you would have gotten will be far more positive.

Julianos

LOL how you going to understand from a screen shot ? you will just see the death recap while im laying down there will be no any info about time like 7 ability in 1 sec. If i was outnumbered i wouldnt even posted in here....

"Cyrodiil and PvE have completely separate learning curves, so you can toss out most of what you gotten used to in PvE when entering Cyrodiil." OMFG really ? thank you sooo much i didnt know that

im playing this game since beta and i always check cyrodiil after major patches/contents if cyrodiil is still sucky and every time i quit with dissapointment... Even if im not cyrodiil freak i kill tons of people and im not dying easly as you think... Your big ego makes you think i am a noob because i asked some questions about it... Even tho those questions wasnt about my gameplay i was suspecting exploits but unfortunatly you couldnt comprehended it.

%90 of players in cyrodiil are lagging or having low fps plus its a chaotic random fight big numbers always wins so for me those "legends" of cyrodiil are nothing on my eyes their ranks proves nothing to me... Its easy to kill lagging players...
Also ESO pvp is the easiest pvp i have ever played...especially with my nightblade its just a childplay.

Orchish

Laguz wrote: »

better computers get better fps, you getting killed is a l2p issue, and yes cc immunity is bugged.

Yes we get 12fps instead of 8.

DeanTheCat

Axorn wrote: »

LOL how you going to understand from a screen shot ? you will just see the death recap while im laying down there will be no any info about time like 7 ability in 1 sec. If i was outnumbered i wouldnt even posted in here....

"Cyrodiil and PvE have completely separate learning curves, so you can toss out most of what you gotten used to in PvE when entering Cyrodiil." OMFG really ? thank you sooo much i didnt know that

im playing this game since beta and i always check cyrodiil after major patches/contents if cyrodiil is still sucky and every time i quit with dissapointment... Even if im not cyrodiil freak i kill tons of people and im not dying easly as you think... Your big ego makes you think i am a noob because i asked some questions about it... Even tho those questions wasnt about my gameplay i was suspecting exploits but unfortunatly you couldnt comprehended it.

%90 of players in cyrodiil are lagging or having low fps plus its a chaotic random fight big numbers always wins so for me those "legends" of cyrodiil are nothing on my eyes their ranks proves nothing to me... Its easy to kill lagging players...
Also ESO pvp is the easiest pvp i have ever played...especially with my nightblade its just a childplay.

Seeing as you are incapable of holding a discussion, this will be my last post on the thread.

There is something called "Ability travel times". This means I can time multiple abilities to hit at the same time. A Death Recap will go a long way to show if you died to someone spamming 1 abilities over and over, or a timed attack. Let me just list a few combos for you.

DK:
Buff up with Molten Armaments + Camo Hunter
Draw heavy attack
Press Silver Shards when heavy attack fully drawn.
Hits:
Heavy Attack
Camo Hunter
Weapon Enchant
Silver Shards
Camo Hunter
Silver Shards Bonus Damage (Death)

Sorc:
Inevitable Detonation
Curse
Mage's Wrath
Entropy
Crystal Fragment
Hits:
Mage's Wrath
Entropy
Crystal Fragment
Curse
Inevitable Detonation
Mage Wrath Explosion (Death)

Templar:
Buff up with Evil Hunter
Dark Flare
Toppling Charge
Puncturing Sweep
Hits:
Topping Charge
Burning Light
Dark Flare
Evil Hunter
Puncturing Sweep
Burning Light
Burning Light
Burning Light
Burning Light (Dead)

Nightblade:
Buff up, Rally, Camo Hunter, Relentless Focus
Snipe
Ambush
Soul Harvest
Killer's Blade
Hits:
Ambush
Camo Hunter
Snipe
Camo Hunter
Weapon Enchant
Soul Harvest
Killer's Blade (Dead)

TL;DR: Learn the mechanics and understand ability damage stacking. My patience is wearing thin.

FriedEggSandwich

Axorn wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

It's not possible to execute 1 Ambush + 5 Surprise Attacks in 1 second. Every single ability has a 1.3 second GCD between each activation. This means you were killed in 6.5 seconds, which is honestly quite a long time. Unless you were attacked by multiple opponents, in which case you can chalk it up to being outnumbered and you overextending yourself (Which we will have no way of knowing unless you post a Death Recap or a Combat Log).

The lag is a constant issue though. One that ZOS is working to fix, though without much success. CC-Immunity isn't currently working as intended, so you occasionally get chain CC-ed.

If you wish to learn more about fighting and survival in Cyrodiil, I wrote a guide on how to survive in Cyrodiil. The link to the guide is in my signature.

You dont need to explain the global cooldown and combat mechanics to me and thanks but i know how to fight and survive. Some people kills me in 1 sec(1on1) its either huge spike lag or exploit and since this is ESO i suspect its a bug/exploit or macro:/

Health desyncs are a thing and kill me from time to time. I mean the skills kill me but I don't react fast enough because I don't realise I'm taking damage till it's too late. Health can be at 100% one second and dead the next looking like you were insta-gibbed, but in reality you were taking damage for several seconds but your hp bar didn't display that.

The game is very badly optimised. I have an i7 980X o/c'd @4.4GHz with 16GB ram and a gtx titan. I run at a capped out 100fps on high settings most of the time but in large battles my fps will drop to 15. Reducing the graphics to medium will gain me ~5fps but the game looks like ass then.

Julianos

DeanTheCat wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

LOL how you going to understand from a screen shot ? you will just see the death recap while im laying down there will be no any info about time like 7 ability in 1 sec. If i was outnumbered i wouldnt even posted in here....

"Cyrodiil and PvE have completely separate learning curves, so you can toss out most of what you gotten used to in PvE when entering Cyrodiil." OMFG really ? thank you sooo much i didnt know that

im playing this game since beta and i always check cyrodiil after major patches/contents if cyrodiil is still sucky and every time i quit with dissapointment... Even if im not cyrodiil freak i kill tons of people and im not dying easly as you think... Your big ego makes you think i am a noob because i asked some questions about it... Even tho those questions wasnt about my gameplay i was suspecting exploits but unfortunatly you couldnt comprehended it.

%90 of players in cyrodiil are lagging or having low fps plus its a chaotic random fight big numbers always wins so for me those "legends" of cyrodiil are nothing on my eyes their ranks proves nothing to me... Its easy to kill lagging players...
Also ESO pvp is the easiest pvp i have ever played...especially with my nightblade its just a childplay.

Seeing as you are incapable of holding a discussion, this will be my last post on the thread.

There is something called "Ability travel times". This means I can time multiple abilities to hit at the same time. A Death Recap will go a long way to show if you died to someone spamming 1 abilities over and over, or a timed attack. Let me just list a few combos for you.

DK:
Buff up with Molten Armaments + Camo Hunter
Draw heavy attack
Press Silver Shards when heavy attack fully drawn.
Hits:
Heavy Attack
Camo Hunter
Weapon Enchant
Silver Shards
Camo Hunter
Silver Shards Bonus Damage (Death)

Sorc:
Inevitable Detonation
Curse
Mage's Wrath
Entropy
Crystal Fragment
Hits:
Mage's Wrath
Entropy
Crystal Fragment
Curse
Inevitable Detonation
Mage Wrath Explosion (Death)

Templar:
Buff up with Evil Hunter
Dark Flare
Toppling Charge
Puncturing Sweep
Hits:
Topping Charge
Burning Light
Dark Flare
Evil Hunter
Puncturing Sweep
Burning Light
Burning Light
Burning Light
Burning Light (Dead)

Nightblade:
Buff up, Rally, Camo Hunter, Relentless Focus
Snipe
Ambush
Soul Harvest
Killer's Blade
Hits:
Ambush
Camo Hunter
Snipe
Camo Hunter
Weapon Enchant
Soul Harvest
Killer's Blade (Dead)

TL;DR: Learn the mechanics and understand ability damage stacking. My patience is wearing thin.

just lol

Lava_Croft

If 'lol' means you learned something, mission accomplished!

Julianos

Lava_Croft wrote: »

If 'lol' means you learned something, mission accomplished!

lol i know those things already... i said 1 ambush 1 wep enchant and 5 suprise attack in a second which is impossible normally but he still keep posting completly diffrent thing because he just dont understand.

I loled because its like im talking with a wall.

"Learn the mechanics and understand ability damage stacking" <-lol