NBs FEAR needs a massive nerf at this current state of PvP.

Wreuntzylla

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

It's cost you more stamina using immovable every 6 seconds then it would to just break free with the skill equipped

I am a firm believer that there is a potion for every situation.

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Oh, and get Greymind Quickslot Bar. Realize you still have to activate "Q" after using the Greymind hotkey.

RainfeatherUK

The ignorance with fear, just shows how many people spam buttons and have zero clue about actual game systems.

If fear is so 'OMFG LOL OPzors', why don't I, or even Aetcharian even, get facerolled by this fearbombing epidemic?

Especially in duels. Damn I should never win on anything except NB right?

Right. Because its a bunch of crap. Quit the whine already. Mad because Bad. Nothing more.

Draehl

Maybe stam NBs are too strong, but realize that by nerfing Mass Hysteria you're also hurting magicka/sustain NBs which are (I won't say terrible) but definitely below average on the power curve right now...

akray21

Didn't read the whole thread, but no one can "spam" fear... after you break it you have 8 second immunity...

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ToRelax

Draehl wrote: »

Maybe stam NBs are too strong, but realize that by nerfing Mass Hysteria you're also hurting magicka/sustain NBs which are (I won't say terrible) but definitely below average on the power curve right now...

Magicka NB isn't so bad... It's better than magicka DK and Templar imo.
Doesn't mean I want fear nerfed, personally, but it is undoubtly the strongest CC in the game, and Aspect of Terror is the best skill of the few offering it.

pjwb16_ESO

Nerf my NB. And I'll be a *** BoL Sorc :P

cozmon3c_ESO

So i still havent seen a legitiment counter to Fear and all abilities in this game should have a way to counter. dont worry fear is not the only ability in the game with out a counter, petrify is another one. these two abilites are the only two instant cast abilities that you cannot dodge or block.

Because there is no real counter to these abilities through skillful play. this is why they are considered OP in there very nature. the other abilities that are similar are rune prison, agony, and spear shard. all have a cast time or an amount of time to avoid the area it will land. petrify and fear cannot be countered.

in order to balance this they need to add a 1 second cast time to petrify and fear, this will give a skillful counter to these abilities that cannot be blockable or dodgable, and dont give me you cant cast stuff because i cast stuff all the time. nightblades can still get suprise fears on people, they will just have to cast while cloaked. petrify is way too good for an isntant cast ability anyway, there is no denying that. Notice that i am not putting the cast time on par with sorc and nightblades equivalents which are 1.5 second cast times, i think 1 second cast time for petrify and fear is a good compromise, even if they are still way better then rune prison, agony and spear shard.

Ezareth

No to cast times on existing CC without them.

Yes to all CC being instantly breakable as it should be.

Cody

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

So i still havent seen a legitiment counter to Fear and all abilities in this game should have a way to counter. dont worry fear is not the only ability in the game with out a counter, petrify is another one. these two abilites are the only two instant cast abilities that you cannot dodge or block.

Because there is no real counter to these abilities through skillful play. this is why they are considered OP in there very nature. the other abilities that are similar are rune prison, agony, and spear shard. all have a cast time or an amount of time to avoid the area it will land. petrify and fear cannot be countered.

in order to balance this they need to add a 1 second cast time to petrify and fear, this will give a skillful counter to these abilities that cannot be blockable or dodgable, and dont give me you cant cast stuff because i cast stuff all the time. nightblades can still get suprise fears on people, they will just have to cast while cloaked. petrify is way too good for an isntant cast ability anyway, there is no denying that. Notice that i am not putting the cast time on par with sorc and nightblades equivalents which are 1.5 second cast times, i think 1 second cast time for petrify and fear is a good compromise, even if they are still way better then rune prison, agony and spear shard.

CC break it....

and agony and rune prison are not even that good, due to the fact they end when the target takes damage.

try another comparison.

pokinatchapunx

I'm no ESO expert here. Played DAoC for many years though, and many other MMOs. All I see here is what I personally consider 99% of "nerf" complaints are about. Somebody got beaten and didn't want to admit that they were out-played. So he came to the forum to vent. OP seems to have done this before. Nerf Templars? Really?

Varicite

Infinite stamina? Most overpowered ability in the game?

NBs are strong right now, definitely, but can we please stop exaggerating?

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akray21

Stamina NB's better not be the cause for my Magicka NB to get a nerf... I am already weak as it is, don't touch my magicka NB or I will leave this game... again

Tintinabula

5 sec immunity to fear after a break free is laughable. It needs to be longer.

BrassRazoo

I don;t understand why a hulking DK would be afraid of a puny little Night Blade that skulks around in the shadows anyway.

King Bozo

NB needs nerfed. Look at all the NB players sweating and trying to prove there points. In the end they need nerfed. Fear needs nerfed.

pokinatchapunx

King Bozo wrote: »

NB needs nerfed. Look at all the NB players sweating and trying to prove there points. In the end they need nerfed. Fear needs nerfed.

Says the ardent defender of the sorc class...

-_-

Soulac

Nerf this, nerf that, nerf everything.
Every class got pro and cons, no one of them is currently op.. not Sorc, not NB, not DK and totally not Templar.

Fear is strong, but op? It's melee range and you're able to break it instantly.. Fear spam or how you guys call it, doesn't exist.
What about fossilize, an unblockable and undodgeable range stun with an after effect root, is that op as well? If you don't know, you can't block here either.

5 sec immunity is more than enough, otherwise use the set which increases the time of this immunity or how about using Arena set, points in Championsystem or immovable?

There are so many counters against all kind of NBs, use them. You can't expect to kill NBs without even know how to react against their builds. It's like fighting a DK with scale spam as a Bow-only player.

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Derra

I would love to instantly break fear :P. Sadly fear and some knockback effects have a slight delay when cc breaking.

Soulac

Derra wrote: »

I would love to instantly break fear :P. Sadly fear and some knockback effects have a slight delay when cc breaking.

If you get hit while dodging, yes.
Same with all other stuns like wrecking blow (sometimes it ignores everything) or lovely fossilize.. Needs to get fixed.

blabafat

monkeymystic wrote: »

Spoken like a true fearspamming NB.

Decent NBs atleast admit how horribly broken and OP it is atm.

It is not broken.
No. I don't play a nb (just in case you were assuming)
I play a templar.

Manage your stamina. DK's have tons of stam management. Everytime you cast an earthen heart ability you get 5% stamina.
Dragonblood increases your stamina regen by 20%. Battle Roar gives you resources back.

Don't hold block 24/7, and you will have enough stam to break out of fear.

Every class can build to perma dodge roll.

Non blockable skills:
DK=Petrify
Templar=Luminous Shards
NB=Fear
Sorc=Rune Prison(I think it's this one)

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Ezareth

blabafat wrote: »

monkeymystic wrote: »

Spoken like a true fearspamming NB.

Decent NBs atleast admit how horribly broken and OP it is atm.

It is not broken.
No. I don't play a nb (just in case you were assuming)
I play a templar.

Manage your stamina. DK's have tons of stam management. Everytime you cast an earthen heart ability you get 5% stamina.
Dragonblood increases your stamina regen by 20%. Battle Roar gives you resources back.

Don't hold block 24/7, and you will have enough stam to break out of fear.

Every class can build to perma dodge roll.

Non blockable skills:
DK=Petrify
Templar=Luminous Shards
NB=Fear
Sorc=Rune Prison(I think it's this one)

Rune Prison can be blocked unfortunately from what I recall.

The real issue is CC that isn't instantly breakable and that right now is the cause of 50-70% of my deaths in PvP right now.

It's no big deal with you're a class with a large hitpoints pool and/or large physical damage values, but when you're the squishiest class in the game, even .5 seconds extra of being unable to break free and use active defensive is often the difference between life and death.

There are a ton of nightblades who are now saving their fears for a player to dodge roll so they can do this. I've seen 3 new ones in the past few days doing it. This crap needs fixed ASAP.

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ToRelax

Ezareth wrote: »

blabafat wrote: »

monkeymystic wrote: »

Spoken like a true fearspamming NB.

Decent NBs atleast admit how horribly broken and OP it is atm.

It is not broken.
No. I don't play a nb (just in case you were assuming)
I play a templar.

Manage your stamina. DK's have tons of stam management. Everytime you cast an earthen heart ability you get 5% stamina.
Dragonblood increases your stamina regen by 20%. Battle Roar gives you resources back.

Don't hold block 24/7, and you will have enough stam to break out of fear.

Every class can build to perma dodge roll.

Non blockable skills:
DK=Petrify
Templar=Luminous Shards
NB=Fear
Sorc=Rune Prison(I think it's this one)

Rune Prison can be blocked unfortunately from what I recall.

The real issue is CC that isn't instantly breakable and that right now is the cause of 50-70% of my deaths in PvP right now.

It's no big deal with you're a class with a large hitpoints pool and/or large physical damage values, but when you're the squishiest class in the game, even .5 seconds extra of being unable to break free and use active defensive is often the difference between life and death.

There are a ton of nightblades who are now saving their fears for a player to dodge roll so they can do this. I've seen 3 new ones in the past few days doing it. This crap needs fixed ASAP.

Rune Prison goes through block.

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Derra

Idk I normally never dodge. Still I find myself in a delay when trying to break fear

Father

Blasphemy !!! Fear is OP don't make me laugh. I say damage shield is OP and should be nerfed.

Cody

Tintinabula wrote: »

5 sec immunity to fear after a break free is laughable. It needs to be longer.

that much I can agree with.

Varicite

Cody wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

5 sec immunity to fear after a break free is laughable. It needs to be longer.

that much I can agree with.

Why does the immunity to fear need to be longer than to every other CC? o.O

Saet

I havent been a steady forum browser in months but some things never change. Monkeymystic complaining about NB's

Cody

Varicite wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

5 sec immunity to fear after a break free is laughable. It needs to be longer.

that much I can agree with.

Why does the immunity to fear need to be longer than to every other CC? o.O

i want it to be equal. is the timer not 8 seconds? or did they reduce it?

Varicite

Cody wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

5 sec immunity to fear after a break free is laughable. It needs to be longer.

that much I can agree with.

Why does the immunity to fear need to be longer than to every other CC? o.O

i want it to be equal. is the timer not 8 seconds? or did they reduce it?

It's 5 seconds for all CCs. It's always been that way.

HOWEVER, the Alessian Order 5pc bonus adds 3 seconds to CC immunity after breaking free, which you may be thinking of.

deepseamk20b14_ESO

akray21 wrote: »

Didn't read the whole thread, but no one can "spam" fear... after you break it you have 8 second immunity...

Not only that, even if they don't break free, they automatically get immunity for 4 seconds. Its literally impossible to fear spam unless you just feel like wasting magicka.

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