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Impulse Exploit - Zenimax Read
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kirnmalidus✭✭✭✭jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »
That's not an exploit that is game mechanics. If you are getting blown up by this you all need to get some better skills. Plenty off cc options you have to counter that junk. If I were you, i would be ashamed to come on here and say I got beat by such a simple tactic. It is very easy to think of a few counters.Ebonheart Pact Groups are currently the ones utilizing this exploit in Wabbajack NA server.
The exploit is pretty much self explanatory: raid groups consisting of 20 or more players use Impulse (Destruction Staff Ability) and that's all they use. They spam it while running and can completely wipe a large group of forces in 1.5 - 2 seconds. No joke. They have pretty much utlized this exploit and taken almost every keep/castle/fort and have taken just about every scroll by using impulse. Everyone uses this ability and can wipe raids easily without breaking a sweat. Spam 1 button, win game.
This is a major exploit needing fixed ASAP.
Please read the thread before make a post like this. It has already been established that this is not working as intended.Life of a Nightblade (Screenshot Tumblr)
“Attention Zenimax: Stamina builds don't hold up to magicka builds, and this is causing most of your class imbalance. It makes melee weapons and bows weaker than staves and class abilities. It makes medium and heavy armor less desirable than light armor. Fix this imbalance, and you'll address most of your balance issues.”
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jeradlub17_ESO✭✭✭kirnmalidus wrote: »jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »
That's not an exploit that is game mechanics. If you are getting blown up by this you all need to get some better skills. Plenty off cc options you have to counter that junk. If I were you, i would be ashamed to come on here and say I got beat by such a simple tactic. It is very easy to think of a few counters.Ebonheart Pact Groups are currently the ones utilizing this exploit in Wabbajack NA server.
The exploit is pretty much self explanatory: raid groups consisting of 20 or more players use Impulse (Destruction Staff Ability) and that's all they use. They spam it while running and can completely wipe a large group of forces in 1.5 - 2 seconds. No joke. They have pretty much utlized this exploit and taken almost every keep/castle/fort and have taken just about every scroll by using impulse. Everyone uses this ability and can wipe raids easily without breaking a sweat. Spam 1 button, win game.
This is a major exploit needing fixed ASAP.
Please read the thread before make a post like this. It has already been established that this is not working as intended.
It is working as intended. You just don't comprehend that. Your lack of comprehension does not mean others are not reading your blabber.- Dallamar, Sorc, EP
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Halrloprillalar✭✭✭✭✭jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »kirnmalidus wrote: »jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »
That's not an exploit that is game mechanics. If you are getting blown up by this you all need to get some better skills. Plenty off cc options you have to counter that junk. If I were you, i would be ashamed to come on here and say I got beat by such a simple tactic. It is very easy to think of a few counters.Ebonheart Pact Groups are currently the ones utilizing this exploit in Wabbajack NA server.
The exploit is pretty much self explanatory: raid groups consisting of 20 or more players use Impulse (Destruction Staff Ability) and that's all they use. They spam it while running and can completely wipe a large group of forces in 1.5 - 2 seconds. No joke. They have pretty much utlized this exploit and taken almost every keep/castle/fort and have taken just about every scroll by using impulse. Everyone uses this ability and can wipe raids easily without breaking a sweat. Spam 1 button, win game.
This is a major exploit needing fixed ASAP.
Please read the thread before make a post like this. It has already been established that this is not working as intended.
It is working as intended. You just don't comprehend that. Your lack of comprehension does not mean others are not reading your blabber.
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"nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors
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kirnmalidus✭✭✭✭jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »kirnmalidus wrote: »jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »
That's not an exploit that is game mechanics. If you are getting blown up by this you all need to get some better skills. Plenty off cc options you have to counter that junk. If I were you, i would be ashamed to come on here and say I got beat by such a simple tactic. It is very easy to think of a few counters.Ebonheart Pact Groups are currently the ones utilizing this exploit in Wabbajack NA server.
The exploit is pretty much self explanatory: raid groups consisting of 20 or more players use Impulse (Destruction Staff Ability) and that's all they use. They spam it while running and can completely wipe a large group of forces in 1.5 - 2 seconds. No joke. They have pretty much utlized this exploit and taken almost every keep/castle/fort and have taken just about every scroll by using impulse. Everyone uses this ability and can wipe raids easily without breaking a sweat. Spam 1 button, win game.
This is a major exploit needing fixed ASAP.
Please read the thread before make a post like this. It has already been established that this is not working as intended.
It is working as intended. You just don't comprehend that. Your lack of comprehension does not mean others are not reading your blabber.
Wow. Just, wow.Life of a Nightblade (Screenshot Tumblr)
“Attention Zenimax: Stamina builds don't hold up to magicka builds, and this is causing most of your class imbalance. It makes melee weapons and bows weaker than staves and class abilities. It makes medium and heavy armor less desirable than light armor. Fix this imbalance, and you'll address most of your balance issues.”
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Pancake-Tragedy✭✭✭✭✭jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »
It is working as intended. You just don't comprehend that. Your lack of comprehension does not mean others are not reading your blabber.
Oh really, because...ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey there everyone, thanks for the reports on this. We're going to test this ability internally to make sure everything is working the way it should be, and will let you know what the outcome is.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
Yes, that part.Infraction wrote: »Really no reason to be investigating, Gina. The skill works fine, the OP is crying that multiple people are using it to mass spam it all over the place.
Perfectly valid tactic.
I think they meant the stacking health debuff from different element types.
Not sure though maybe they will clarify.
Sorry, should have been more clear about what exactly we were looking at.
...says something about it is broke.Edited by Pancake-Tragedy on 21 June 2014 01:44Pancake Tragedy - Sorcerer3 -
kirnmalidus✭✭✭✭Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »
It is working as intended. You just don't comprehend that. Your lack of comprehension does not mean others are not reading your blabber.
Oh really, because...ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey there everyone, thanks for the reports on this. We're going to test this ability internally to make sure everything is working the way it should be, and will let you know what the outcome is.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
Yes, that part.Infraction wrote: »Really no reason to be investigating, Gina. The skill works fine, the OP is crying that multiple people are using it to mass spam it all over the place.
Perfectly valid tactic.
I think they meant the stacking health debuff from different element types.
Not sure though maybe they will clarify. Sorry, should have been more clear about what exactly we were looking at.
...says something about it is broke.
Thx
Life of a Nightblade (Screenshot Tumblr)
“Attention Zenimax: Stamina builds don't hold up to magicka builds, and this is causing most of your class imbalance. It makes melee weapons and bows weaker than staves and class abilities. It makes medium and heavy armor less desirable than light armor. Fix this imbalance, and you'll address most of your balance issues.”
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Custos91✭✭✭That is more or less the reason why I don't do pvp anymore, our pvp guilds at AD bloodthorn EU are more or less saying:
DPS or Healer?
Healer: Use these abbilitys, and make sure you got rapid regen/mutagen, Barrier and Immoveable, also we want to have the following buffs from you...
Dps:
Get a destro staff, run with us, spam impulse, get immoveable
I can't test my builds anymore, because they have to work with one of these to things, I got thrown out of a guild because I said I was healing, no point in sieging a open gate to farm points, randoms need healing.
As I said, was thrown out of the guild, can't get a decent pvp grp there now because they are forming a union.
Hope this gets fixed, pls, I don't want to see these spammzergs anymore, I had the chance of grinding with this, I didn't even manage to stay awake for one day, not in the whole month they are doing this now.Warden Main apparently... 7 Wardens currently, otherwise a healer of every class.
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Pro Tip: Form a group of 4 and hang out with the zerg. Now you can claim you only run with 4. I'm l33t
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Mortosk✭✭✭✭Ifthir_ESO wrote: »davidetombab16_ESO wrote: »no cooldown?= bad game design, eso is a fail, that s all.
dude what thread aren't you badmouthing this game? You sure spend a lot of time on the forums of a game you hate.
Dude, didn't you know? The forums are way more fun than the actual game.
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Mortosk✭✭✭✭Halrloprillalar wrote: »Ebonheart Pact Groups are currently the ones utilizing this exploit in Wabbajack NA server.
The exploit is pretty much self explanatory: raid groups consisting of 20 or more players use Impulse (Destruction Staff Ability) and that's all they use. They spam it while running and can completely wipe a large group of forces in 1.5 - 2 seconds. No joke. They have pretty much utlized this exploit and taken almost every keep/castle/fort and have taken just about every scroll by using impulse. Everyone uses this ability and can wipe raids easily without breaking a sweat. Spam 1 button, win game.
This is a major exploit needing fixed ASAP.
So, one group employed strategy in PVP and defeated another group.
Interesting.
Thanks for reading the entire thread.
Your insightful input is greatly appreciated.
Any time!
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ArcanusMagus✭✭✭Wait a minute, so if I block a melee attack, and the game tells me to hold left-mouse to exploit, and I hold left-mouse to exploit, am I exploiting?Arcanus Magus
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✭✭✭✭✭kirnmalidus wrote: »Really no reason to be investigating, Gina. The skill works fine, the OP is crying that multiple people are using it to mass spam it all over the place.
Perfectly valid tactic.
The health debuffs stacking is not the skill "working fine" and this is not what the devs intended, as Gina's later post made clear.
So please go home if you don't want to participate in the rational discourse (to borrow another's term) we are trying to have about what is clearly an exploitable bug. The only reason you would be defending it (especially after Zenimax has acknowledged it is an issue they are looking into) is if you were using yourself.
I see from your comment history you also defended the DK Vamp Bat Swarm nonsense. Shocking. I guess after they fix this exploit all I'll need to spot the next one is keep tabs on your forum posts.
1. My DK is not a vampire, care for a screenshot?
2. My Sorc doesnt even HAVE pulsar yet, its level 32!
3. lolwut?
4. The amount of QQ in this thread and on the rest of the forum regarding "Impulse trains" is the catalyst for my commentary
5. Conjecture never ends well, please leave your speculation as to my motives at the door
6. I am against all class nerfs of any kind, and favor the buff approach. Perhaps you need to read my history a wee bit better where I go into great detail on how to make something work and ridicule the sheeple that listen to the youtube warriors that seem to dictate policy on how people should build their characters.
7. Bosmer Vampire NB DW/Bow 1200+ DPS Master Class reporting in.
Now get out.
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Halrloprillalar✭✭✭✭✭kirnmalidus wrote: »Really no reason to be investigating, Gina. The skill works fine, the OP is crying that multiple people are using it to mass spam it all over the place.
Perfectly valid tactic.
The health debuffs stacking is not the skill "working fine" and this is not what the devs intended, as Gina's later post made clear.
So please go home if you don't want to participate in the rational discourse (to borrow another's term) we are trying to have about what is clearly an exploitable bug. The only reason you would be defending it (especially after Zenimax has acknowledged it is an issue they are looking into) is if you were using yourself.
I see from your comment history you also defended the DK Vamp Bat Swarm nonsense. Shocking. I guess after they fix this exploit all I'll need to spot the next one is keep tabs on your forum posts.
1. My DK is not a vampire, care for a screenshot?
2. My Sorc doesnt even HAVE pulsar yet, its level 32!
3. lolwut?
4. The amount of QQ in this thread and on the rest of the forum regarding "Impulse trains" is the catalyst for my commentary
5. Conjecture never ends well, please leave your speculation as to my motives at the door
6. I am against all class nerfs of any kind, and favor the buff approach. Perhaps you need to read my history a wee bit better where I go into great detail on how to make something work and ridicule the sheeple that listen to the youtube warriors that seem to dictate policy on how people should build their characters.
7. Bosmer Vampire NB DW/Bow 1200+ DPS Master Class reporting in.
Now get out.
no offense, but none of that has anything to do with the issue of rainbow stacking we are discussing"nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors
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✭Halrloprillalar wrote: »kirnmalidus wrote: »Really no reason to be investigating, Gina. The skill works fine, the OP is crying that multiple people are using it to mass spam it all over the place.
Perfectly valid tactic.
The health debuffs stacking is not the skill "working fine" and this is not what the devs intended, as Gina's later post made clear.
So please go home if you don't want to participate in the rational discourse (to borrow another's term) we are trying to have about what is clearly an exploitable bug. The only reason you would be defending it (especially after Zenimax has acknowledged it is an issue they are looking into) is if you were using yourself.
I see from your comment history you also defended the DK Vamp Bat Swarm nonsense. Shocking. I guess after they fix this exploit all I'll need to spot the next one is keep tabs on your forum posts.
1. My DK is not a vampire, care for a screenshot?
2. My Sorc doesnt even HAVE pulsar yet, its level 32!
3. lolwut?
4. The amount of QQ in this thread and on the rest of the forum regarding "Impulse trains" is the catalyst for my commentary
5. Conjecture never ends well, please leave your speculation as to my motives at the door
6. I am against all class nerfs of any kind, and favor the buff approach. Perhaps you need to read my history a wee bit better where I go into great detail on how to make something work and ridicule the sheeple that listen to the youtube warriors that seem to dictate policy on how people should build their characters.
7. Bosmer Vampire NB DW/Bow 1200+ DPS Master Class reporting in.
Now get out.
no offense, but none of that has anything to do with the issue of rainbow stacking we are discussing
Lol sorry, I get the feeling he/she is too busy fapping over themselves to care...1 -
kirnmalidus✭✭✭✭Halrloprillalar wrote: »kirnmalidus wrote: »Really no reason to be investigating, Gina. The skill works fine, the OP is crying that multiple people are using it to mass spam it all over the place.
Perfectly valid tactic.
The health debuffs stacking is not the skill "working fine" and this is not what the devs intended, as Gina's later post made clear.
So please go home if you don't want to participate in the rational discourse (to borrow another's term) we are trying to have about what is clearly an exploitable bug. The only reason you would be defending it (especially after Zenimax has acknowledged it is an issue they are looking into) is if you were using yourself.
I see from your comment history you also defended the DK Vamp Bat Swarm nonsense. Shocking. I guess after they fix this exploit all I'll need to spot the next one is keep tabs on your forum posts.
1. My DK is not a vampire, care for a screenshot?
2. My Sorc doesnt even HAVE pulsar yet, its level 32!
3. lolwut?
4. The amount of QQ in this thread and on the rest of the forum regarding "Impulse trains" is the catalyst for my commentary
5. Conjecture never ends well, please leave your speculation as to my motives at the door
6. I am against all class nerfs of any kind, and favor the buff approach. Perhaps you need to read my history a wee bit better where I go into great detail on how to make something work and ridicule the sheeple that listen to the youtube warriors that seem to dictate policy on how people should build their characters.
7. Bosmer Vampire NB DW/Bow 1200+ DPS Master Class reporting in.
Now get out.
no offense, but none of that has anything to do with the issue of rainbow stacking we are discussing
Yeah and on top of that, if you read my post this was a response to you'll see that I never actually accused them of using the DK Vamp exploit, just defending it.
I like what you did there with "my sorc doesn't have pulsar yet," given it is a Destruction Staff skill and your NB could acquire it as well (again not saying you have it, but you could). And you don't have to be the pulsar spammer to benefit from it as part of the rainbow train group.
Finally, we aren't asking for a nerf. We are asking for the ability to function properly and not stack the debuffs. Everything else works that way (not stacking buffs from the same ability) or is at least intended to. The only reason this is bugged is the game is treating the different elemental versions of Pulsar as completely different abilities.Life of a Nightblade (Screenshot Tumblr)
“Attention Zenimax: Stamina builds don't hold up to magicka builds, and this is causing most of your class imbalance. It makes melee weapons and bows weaker than staves and class abilities. It makes medium and heavy armor less desirable than light armor. Fix this imbalance, and you'll address most of your balance issues.”
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demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭kirnmalidus wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
Yes, that part.Infraction wrote: »Really no reason to be investigating, Gina. The skill works fine, the OP is crying that multiple people are using it to mass spam it all over the place.
Perfectly valid tactic.
I think they meant the stacking health debuff from different element types.
Not sure though maybe they will clarify. Sorry, should have been more clear about what exactly we were looking at.
Thank you. People seem to be misinterpreting our issue as having something to do with damage stacking, which it does not. The issue is with the health and immobility debuffs stacking (health in particular) from the various elemental versions of Pulsar.
If this is what the OP was trying to get at, he should have been more clear about that. I didn't know different element pulsars HP reduce effect could stack the effect like that. Don't have much time to take notice when you get run down by an impulse mob
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✭It's not an exploit... just an imbalanced ability, taken to it's ultimate PvP end, lol.
It's sure to be "nerfed". Personally, I find Impluse trains hilarious to watch... and they don't always ensure success.0 -
Halrloprillalar✭✭✭✭✭I am also told there is another impulse/destro staff related issue capable of oneshotting players, have yet to test this myself"nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors
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Isyldra✭✭✭✭This thread makes me cringe. Layering effects isn't an exploit it's a tactic. If the OP is saying that someone with an inferno staff with Pulsar morph is taking 10% health AND player with Frost staff Pulsar morph is taking 10% health ALSO AND lightning staff is ALSO taking 10% (for a total of 30% health loss) then clearly, that's not working as intended. If you're just complaining about people using different staves to cover all the bases... well that's just coordinated play.
In before someone complains that using oil pot catapult in conjunction with meatbag catapult and fire ballista is an exploit.
My advice would be to step up your counters.Proud member of Alacrity
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kirnmalidus✭✭✭✭This thread makes me cringe. Layering effects isn't an exploit it's a tactic. If the OP is saying that someone with an inferno staff with Pulsar morph is taking 10% health AND player with Frost staff Pulsar morph is taking 10% health ALSO AND lightning staff is ALSO taking 10% (for a total of 30% health loss) then clearly, that's not working as intended. If you're just complaining about people using different staves to cover all the bases... well that's just coordinated play.
Yes, that's what is happening, the health debuffs are stacking from the different elemental versions of Pulsar.Edited by kirnmalidus on 21 June 2014 22:53Life of a Nightblade (Screenshot Tumblr)
“Attention Zenimax: Stamina builds don't hold up to magicka builds, and this is causing most of your class imbalance. It makes melee weapons and bows weaker than staves and class abilities. It makes medium and heavy armor less desirable than light armor. Fix this imbalance, and you'll address most of your balance issues.”
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quakedawg_ESO✭✭✭This thread makes me cringe. Layering effects isn't an exploit it's a tactic. If the OP is saying that someone with an inferno staff with Pulsar morph is taking 10% health AND player with Frost staff Pulsar morph is taking 10% health ALSO AND lightning staff is ALSO taking 10% (for a total of 30% health loss) then clearly, that's not working as intended. If you're just complaining about people using different staves to cover all the bases... well that's just coordinated play.
In before someone complains that using oil pot catapult in conjunction with meatbag catapult and fire ballista is an exploit.
My advice would be to step up your counters.
All this reading and now I finally understand. I agree, if this is the case I'm sure this wasn't the intent to stack. While we're all enlightened, please note Elemental Ring is the OTHER morph of Impulse. I know a couple guilds off the top of my head that run this one so not every Impulse spam group is intentionally abusing an issue. Keep that in mind.
Pro Tip: Form a group of 4 and hang out with the zerg. Now you can claim you only run with 4. I'm l33t
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Good post.kirnmalidus wrote: »Where else in the game do percentdemonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »kirnmalidus wrote: »The way it is being used, stacking concussions to render any opposing raid totally immobile immediately, is an exploit.
If this use of the term exploit confuses you, I refer you to Mirriam Webster's relevant definition:
"to make use of meanly or unfairly for one's own advantage [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exploit]
Whether it is working as designers intended isn't relevant, it is an exploitable feature in the game's design that makes PvP unplayable for people who aren't abusing it.
Its not an exploit no matter what definition you google. You can't tell people they can only have 1 or 2 people of their group use impulse. if 400 people come at you and all they do is impulse, the game allows it. Same if 400 people come at you and mages fury or 400 people charge at you then talons or 400 people throw spears of light at you or 400 people sneak attack critical you at the same time (tho 3 simultanious ones would probably be the death of you). the game allows for all of that, because any number of players with access to the skill can use it as they please.
Sure, if by nerf you mean they need to stop it stacking the debuffs (including the max health decrease from the pulsar morph).
The damage it does is fine, it's fair. A raid can heal through it and still have a fight if they are competent.
But stacking down your health to nothing combined with full immobilization is a different story.
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Sunrock✭✭✭Ebonheart Pact Groups are currently the ones utilizing this exploit in Wabbajack NA server.
The exploit is pretty much self explanatory: raid groups consisting of 20 or more players use Impulse (Destruction Staff Ability) and that's all they use. They spam it while running and can completely wipe a large group of forces in 1.5 - 2 seconds. No joke. They have pretty much utlized this exploit and taken almost every keep/castle/fort and have taken just about every scroll by using impulse. Everyone uses this ability and can wipe raids easily without breaking a sweat. Spam 1 button, win game.
This is a major exploit needing fixed ASAP.
Well they can only wipe groups that does not counter this tactics. The AOE range of that skill is only 8 meters. So all you need to do to stop them is some volcanic runes and kite them....
I see how this is really efficient on random groups with no to little organization. But with an organized group or with experience you can easily counter this. Besides if every one in the group use Steel Tornado (dual wield skill) instead they would do even better. That AOE skill have 11m radios
But looking at other AOE skills from other weapon lines the damage maybe needs to be lowered a bit to be in line with other weapons.0 -
Sunrock✭✭✭That is more or less the reason why I don't do pvp anymore, our pvp guilds at AD bloodthorn EU are more or less saying:
DPS or Healer?
Healer: Use these abbilitys, and make sure you got rapid regen/mutagen, Barrier and Immoveable, also we want to have the following buffs from you...
Dps:
Get a destro staff, run with us, spam impulse, get immoveable
I can't test my builds anymore, because they have to work with one of these to things, I got thrown out of a guild because I said I was healing, no point in sieging a open gate to farm points, randoms need healing.
As I said, was thrown out of the guild, can't get a decent pvp grp there now because they are forming a union.
Hope this gets fixed, pls, I don't want to see these spammzergs anymore, I had the chance of grinding with this, I didn't even manage to stay awake for one day, not in the whole month they are doing this now.
That is wearied... 2-3 good templar healers can easily outheal 5000 DPS on a 24 man group and that should counter any full group spaming Impulz. You probably just run into some idiot guild leader that have no clue about healing.
PS: V12 Templars with really good gear.Edited by Sunrock on 22 June 2014 00:510 -
Dalriaden✭✭✭All i read was waa ep is fighting ad tactics with ad tactics. The bias in trying to claim a single faction are the only ones doing this coupled with the lack of understanding of what an exploit is, is quite amazing.0
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Besides if every one in the group use Steel Tornado (dual wield skill) instead they would do even better. That AOE skill have 11m radios
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i'm sorry, but damage per second has nothing to do with the range of an ability.
stamina skills are horribly under powered in relation to magicka skills anyway. if they actually had any competitive damage, you could have something there.2 -
Morticielle✭✭✭
Totally wrong is this *** with blocking casts.The problem of Impulse and many other AoE abilities is that they are not blockable. If 10 players use impulse in 2 times i 2 seconds and they hit you, you are dead. Currently most of the time I always hold the block (because of the game design) and the funny thing is that I receive more damage from impulse than Sors' crystal shard or any other single target skill. This is totally wrong.
Lady Morticielle d'Aragòn |VR12| Sorcerer | PvP Rank 21 (Major Grade I) | EU-Megaserver | AD
Subscription cancelled due to the following facts:
- Zenimax implements more bugs from patch to patch
- Zenimax does not care about the increasing instability of the game. People have more and more crashes Fix of memory bug decreased number of crashes considerably
- Zenimax has still not fully fixed the fps drops they (!) implemented with patch1.2.3
- Zenimax does nothing to fix the massive ability lags in PvP
- Zenimax gives more attention to unnecassary 'content' like dyes for armors than fixing issues
- In patchnotes Zenimax lies about bugs allegedly fixed
- Zenimax has no plan as to how balance population in Cyrodiil campaigns
- Support is ineffective and does not even speak in a way one can linguistically understand1 -
Grim13✭✭✭✭✭
✭Multi-boxing with bots. These peeps need to be perma-banned. Get on it, ZOS. Save PvP from this silliness.1 -
Kevinmon✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey there everyone, thanks for the reports on this. We're going to test this ability internally to make sure everything is working the way it should be, and will let you know what the outcome is.
This is a HUGE EXPLOIT that NEEDS to be FIXED IMMEDIATELY. Ebonheart Campaign have been using it for the past 2 weeks and everyone calls them the "*** Train" because they use it 24/7 without EVER being KILLED.3
