ESO_Nightingale wrote: »tomofhyrule wrote: »I feel like one of the main reasons that people are not taking this seriously is the comparisons and reasonings that are being given. You say "We want frost to be viable for DPS like fire is," and then make all of your comparisons to the current meta. You do realize that the meta isn't a pure fire mage, right? That green beam is not a DK skill, nor does it do flame damage. Heck, you can even recolor the current meta to look like an ice beam, not a fire beam.
Essentially, you're saying "I want my [themed build] to be as strong or stronger than [the meta]" instead of "I want my [themed build] to be as strong or stronger than [similar themed builds]."
We absolutely should compare parses... but not "dual frost staff/Frostbite/etc." to "Arcbladeplar." That should be compared to a pure DK with dual inferno staves and BSW/Encratis. And yes, I'm positive that frost is still going to not match up... but it'll be a lot closer of a matchup than the meta build, because a pure fire mage is also not at all the meta.
Yes, there are things they could do to frost as well, that would also not take away from tanking (since frost - even in Skyrim - did live in a CC area more than a DoT area like fire). I think it'd be interesting to add an Engulfing-style frost-damage-taken debuff to Impaling Shards, or maybe modify the Brittle debuff to also take more damage from frost. Yes, there should be a specific Monster Helm set for each damage type and not just fire. And for the love of Kyne please give Arctic Blast its heal-on-demand back (Polar is the problematic morph in PvP, not Blast).
I agree with you on a lot of this. But i think that theres a lot that should be done in addition to something like this mythic existing, (see one of my many other posts). But where i differ is that I think that theme builds should be able to be similar to meta builds in terms of not just dps but also skill and rotation complexity, and should even have their shot at being the meta. As far as this mythic goes. It's just 1 small part of that and could even become a tuning knob for such a build later down the line. Its an ambitious goal given that I'm not a developer, but we're always inching closer to it.
Just because ZOS said they were looking if it is possible (with no additional updates since then), doesn't mean it is confirmed to be coming any time soon.