Greyhost is full of cross-faction alts preying on AD PC NA and relaying zone chat bs.

I can't gank a bloody 30K hp player while they stand motionless from behind with triple crit Focused/Incap/Merciless 15K pen 115% crit damage and they can 1-combo me after using a single skill to re-heal more than half their HP while negating any usefulness of cloak because det pots. (albeit I am playing a pureblade and not sublclassing, I should probably drop siphoning for Aedric)

We've got 31K hp tanks that are now bloody bombing.

It's just a pubstomp on anyone that isn't a bloody sweat.

After a few Rush of Agony/Charm bombs, new players trying pvp for first time, or PVE'ers, get frustrated and never come back.

Vengeance is not an option because it gets boring very quickly and again, players leave and never come back. You see that in the tests were once players complete the Golden Pursuit.

My experience is that performance during the last Vengeance was worse than the current MYM. Just saying. Ironically, pvp performance is always better during MYM for me. No idea why.

For me personally:

I generally dip in and out of PvP outside of the event, I have 3 "PvP" Characters; DPS, Tank and Healer all different alliances.
I suck at PvP (I'm really good at the dyeing bit, not very good at the killing bit lol) but I do find it fun.

I've found in Cyrodiil during the event there can be a distinct lack of communication and organization, hardly any Zone shouts, no one grouping or adding lfg people to groups.
I've tried making my own groups and /Zone what we are doing and had some success, but when others don't reciprocate the comms you don't know what the other players in your alliance are doing and you end up scattered across the map (Hope that makes sense) This isn't happening all the time it's just something I find frustrating and off putting.

Like a few others have said at peak times sitting in a que for 30+ minutes isn't fun.

Don't really go in IC during the event.

BGs- the most annoying thing is "Waiting for players" then "Not enough players, closing" to then have to requeue, for it to happen again....

ZOS imagine trying to do your daily BG on 18 different characters, it could potentially take all day

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Mojey87 wrote: »

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

Mojey87 wrote: »

Everyone who vote no and saying "ITS PVP" are those players made IC dead without any event, i dont see cyrodil dead without any event related!!!
those are the same players who just waiting for any players in their bases harassing them and steal tel vars from them and by the end of the day the cry here "why IC is dead" and we need more people.
the hypocrisy speak for itself.

simple logic, something doesnt work, CHANGE it or it will die.

Sorry, but you are wrong. I had NOTHING to do with IC "being dead." And I have never preyed on other players. Not ever.

I'm a solo non-PvPer. I voted "No" because despite getting killed a few times (in a PvP zone that I willingly entered), I have never had a problem completing quests in IC or Cyrodiil during the PvP events, following the same advice that everyone gives to PvE people during these events. And if *I* can do it, so can anyone else.
The PvP zones are fine as is. Those folks only have two zones in the entire game. We have all the rest.

There's also another saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

you understand me wrong there, my issue with IC is the logic, when players can steal tel vars from others that what makes it unattractive to players, if they just implement same system like cyrodil where tel vars is earned the same way it will be lot of fun, i do play 95% in cyrodil cuz its fun, we play the things players find it fun, not like IC when you have to be vigilant all time and always look around your shoulders for anyone to sneak on you and steal all you earnings which its really not fun.

The Tel Var risk is precisely what makes other people enjoy the area - it's the entire point of the zone. If you don't like it, don't go there.

IC isn't dead because of the Tel Var system, it's dead because of all the changes they made to the zone involving the flags. Before the flag changes, IC was packed constantly because fights were easy to find since you could respawn anywhere.

Yeah IC is a logistical nightmare. I can't go where I want. I cant spawn where I want. There are weird rules where players can be invincible. Players can teleport out ruining the whole point of IC. We can go on for days about the basic design issues.

As someone who needs the Imperial City Fishing achievement (and did they add the western solstice one to the anniversary fishing achievement? if so Why? *cries*), Yes! /half joking.

I wouldn't mind if Telvar weren't available for a PvE version, and I will eventually go into the PvP version we have now to get the fishing achievement.

Most of what I have seen during PvP doesn't really make me want to keep doing it. The only thing that really did make me want to PvP more was the first vengence test (didn't try the second one). I found it fun. Regular PvP not so much.

MincMincMinc wrote: »

Well you shouldnt just walk into pvp, just like a new player shouldnt just walk into VCR. Taking no steps to learn or get gear before hand is your own fault. Secondly it is Zos's fault for neglecting PvP to this degree for 10 years. The majority of the people in pvp are all veterans as there is no learning environments anymore.

IC has no rewards or goals, so the only thing to do is run around and kill each other

some of the best players pcna play with 250-300ping from south america or SEA.

Again new players aren't worth anything, they drop no currency. Again there is no other reward or goal in IC other than killing each other.

Sure... but are you going to tell them? Im sure its all fun and games when you live for more the a min. But most just explode.
And yes... People do walk into vCR with no exp and no gear and get carried because the rest of the group can and do carry them.
The decent people talk to them and try to help them when they fail badly. This dosnt happen in PVP as much as it should. The decent people just move on. The rest, teabag and tell you you suck.

My latency is bad enough that someone can attack me for a full 2 secs sometimes before I even see them. Iv had to record myself dieing JUST to see when hit me.

They do have currency. One that they lose half of when they died, the other one is just AP. And yet... People still farm the 1exp point newbies at spawn points.

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Mojey87 wrote: »

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

Mojey87 wrote: »

Everyone who vote no and saying "ITS PVP" are those players made IC dead without any event, i dont see cyrodil dead without any event related!!!
those are the same players who just waiting for any players in their bases harassing them and steal tel vars from them and by the end of the day the cry here "why IC is dead" and we need more people.
the hypocrisy speak for itself.

simple logic, something doesnt work, CHANGE it or it will die.

Sorry, but you are wrong. I had NOTHING to do with IC "being dead." And I have never preyed on other players. Not ever.

I'm a solo non-PvPer. I voted "No" because despite getting killed a few times (in a PvP zone that I willingly entered), I have never had a problem completing quests in IC or Cyrodiil during the PvP events, following the same advice that everyone gives to PvE people during these events. And if *I* can do it, so can anyone else.
The PvP zones are fine as is. Those folks only have two zones in the entire game. We have all the rest.

There's also another saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

you understand me wrong there, my issue with IC is the logic, when players can steal tel vars from others that what makes it unattractive to players, if they just implement same system like cyrodil where tel vars is earned the same way it will be lot of fun, i do play 95% in cyrodil cuz its fun, we play the things players find it fun, not like IC when you have to be vigilant all time and always look around your shoulders for anyone to sneak on you and steal all you earnings which its really not fun.

The Tel Var risk is precisely what makes other people enjoy the area - it's the entire point of the zone. If you don't like it, don't go there.

IC isn't dead because of the Tel Var system, it's dead because of all the changes they made to the zone involving the flags. Before the flag changes, IC was packed constantly because fights were easy to find since you could respawn anywhere.

Edit: to echo Minc below, people being able to teleport out at will makes the zone dead as well. Instead of being forced to stand and fight, people just leave the zone (bypassing the intended mechanic of recall sigils) and don't come back until later.

Yeah Imperial City was a lot of fun before they introduced the flags. Large fights were easy to find and some lasted for hours. Without flags no faction had an advantage. With the flags the faction that has the flag eventually overruns the other factions simply because they can get back in the fight quicker after a death.
I've suggested a few times there should be a weekend every month (maybe two months) where one district in Imperial City allows all three factions to port back to their base no matter which faction controls the flag. The districts can rotate so we don't get the same one every time. The faction controlling the flag could get some kind of bonus that doesn't affect the fight so there is incentive to try and hold the flag.
I think it would be popular if we could get those big fights back again.

Mojey87 wrote: »

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

Mojey87 wrote: »

Everyone who vote no and saying "ITS PVP" are those players made IC dead without any event, i dont see cyrodil dead without any event related!!!
those are the same players who just waiting for any players in their bases harassing them and steal tel vars from them and by the end of the day the cry here "why IC is dead" and we need more people.
the hypocrisy speak for itself.

simple logic, something doesnt work, CHANGE it or it will die.

Sorry, but you are wrong. I had NOTHING to do with IC "being dead." And I have never preyed on other players. Not ever.

I'm a solo non-PvPer. I voted "No" because despite getting killed a few times (in a PvP zone that I willingly entered), I have never had a problem completing quests in IC or Cyrodiil during the PvP events, following the same advice that everyone gives to PvE people during these events. And if *I* can do it, so can anyone else.
The PvP zones are fine as is. Those folks only have two zones in the entire game. We have all the rest.

There's also another saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

you understand me wrong there, my issue with IC is the logic, when players can steal tel vars from others that what makes it unattractive to players, if they just implement same system like cyrodil where tel vars is earned the same way it will be lot of fun, i do play 95% in cyrodil cuz its fun, we play the things players find it fun, not like IC when you have to be vigilant all time and always look around your shoulders for anyone to sneak on you and steal all you earnings which its really not fun.

The Tel Var risk is precisely what makes other people enjoy the area - it's the entire point of the zone. If you don't like it, don't go there.

IC isn't dead because of the Tel Var system, it's dead because of all the changes they made to the zone involving the flags. Before the flag changes, IC was packed constantly because fights were easy to find since you could respawn anywhere.

Edit: to echo Minc below, people being able to teleport out at will makes the zone dead as well. Instead of being forced to stand and fight, people just leave the zone (bypassing the intended mechanic of recall sigils) and don't come back until later.

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

It's because the GP this month will be handing out some nice goodies. Like attunable crafting stations.

oooh, nice, I forgot to look at what the monthly rewards are, but I have been sort of disappointed with them lately.

What is the GP going to be focused towards?

According to the August Survival Guide, it appears to be a Crafting themed GP.

It's because the GP this month will be handing out some nice goodies. Like attunable crafting stations.