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Re: Extremely Low Midyear Mayhem Turnout, Why?
IMO on PC NA only one campaign has fun fights. Once queue becomes more than an hour for it, it is time to do something else.
ZOS as someone who actually likes PvP, do not let the low turn out make you think that vengeance is the solution. Vengeance can exist as its own thing, but it is not a proper replacement of the exhilaration of Cyrodiil when it works.
Turnout this bad points to mass dissatisfaction though. Almost no one likes Cyrodiil in it's current state and it shows. You might find a few people that say that this patch is great, but they will soon find themselves among the few people left in Cyrodiil.
I don't think Vengeance as we last saw it is the solution, but I think that a Cyrodiil with pure stat based sets only (that are balanced with each other), higher population caps, lowered barriers to entry, and skills more in line with early ESO (like frags stunning or merciless resolve requiring more management) would be far more successful than the mess we have now.
ESO's 1.0 and 2.0 eras had huge PvP populations for a reason, even with some of the performance issues that existed back then. The current developers should take notes on why that is.
Stamicka
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Re: Extremely Low Midyear Mayhem Turnout, Why?
I don't think Vengeance as we last saw it is the solution, but I think that a Cyrodiil with pure stat based sets only (that are balanced with each other), higher population caps, lowered barriers to entry, and skills more in line with early ESO (like frags stunning or merciless resolve requiring more management) would be far more successful than the mess we have now.
This is the way it should be 100%. Stop making the gap between hardcore pvp'ers and everyone else so huge. My last time I entered IC, my entire group decked out very good PvE gear went up against a single DK. We never even moved his health bar or broke his shield. I was on a toon that was parsing about 80k in PvE.
I know that no one will miss me in Cyro, but I won't be going back as the emphasis on perfect gear just ruins it for me.
Kwik1
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Re: Should Vengeance add Subclassing?
The major reason I prefer Vengeance to Live is balance. Adding the single biggest unbalancing update ZOS has ever made to this mode would invalidate it.
Hagmatron's Body Markings & character customization
They're pretty cool as far as body markings go, but as a Khajiit main, this one is totally unenthused. Our fur pattern or lack thereof completely changes the look of Khajiit faces, so I never use body markings.
Likewise it would be really nice if jewelry color did not depend on hair:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/679307/since-qol-features-are-on-the-table-could-we-please-finally-have-separate-hair-jewelry-colors
Face with normal fur pattern
Likewise it would be really nice if jewelry color did not depend on hair:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/679307/since-qol-features-are-on-the-table-could-we-please-finally-have-separate-hair-jewelry-colors
Face with normal fur pattern
MoonPile
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Re: Extremely Low Midyear Mayhem Turnout, Why?
No thanks, Vengeance the third will be my Midyear Mayhem.
Perhaps players actually don't bother playing Midyear because they quit pvp entirely due to the fact that they expect Vengeance to be implemented along with its stale boring fights.
I hope if they implement vengeance that they make BG's and IC also vengeance ruleset so that there's no escape for people who are pushing for the implementation of it into Cyrodiil.
After all why would people not want to play with those perfectly balanced and uniform skill sets in all forms of PVP content.
Re: I want to gain Major Brutality and Sorcery without hitting enemies with Siphoning's Drain Power.
To make up for that condition the Power Extraction morph debuffs the enemy with Minor Cowardice and gives you a 2nd damage buff in Minor Courage. Resulting in an AoE damage skill with two damage buffs Major Brut/Sorc and Minor Courage that last 30 seconds, a 10 second damage and healing debuff on all enemies hit in Minor Cowardice, and a chance at afflicting the Diseased status effect which deals more damage while applying another healing debuff in Minor Defile.
Nightblade has numerous ways to guarantee the hit. 2 mobility skills (one is always active on either bar), a gap closer, an AoE instant fear, a single target instant stun, a teleport, and a single target immobilize/snare. It might suck for your build, but this is what it was designed around. It's a very strong skill with a lot of effects that a full or 2/3 Nightblade would have no trouble meeting the conditions of.
You ask if you really have to give up on Nightblade, but you yourself admitted that Siphoning was the most unnecessary part of your build and are you really even a Nightblade at that point? You may be attached to that specific character, but you're no more a Nightblade than a Warden or Templar currently.
If you are attached to the character instead of performance I'd suggest dropping it for Degeneration or adding Mist Form to your bars. A mobility skill you can use to teleport into the enemy and directly cast Power Extraction. Vampire and Siphoning also fit together very well thematically.
You'd end up getting the 300 weapon/spell damage from Vampire's Strike From the Shadows passive + Major Brut/Sorc + Minor Courage + debuffing them with Minor Cowardice and potentially hitting them with Diseased.
Nightblade has numerous ways to guarantee the hit. 2 mobility skills (one is always active on either bar), a gap closer, an AoE instant fear, a single target instant stun, a teleport, and a single target immobilize/snare. It might suck for your build, but this is what it was designed around. It's a very strong skill with a lot of effects that a full or 2/3 Nightblade would have no trouble meeting the conditions of.
You ask if you really have to give up on Nightblade, but you yourself admitted that Siphoning was the most unnecessary part of your build and are you really even a Nightblade at that point? You may be attached to that specific character, but you're no more a Nightblade than a Warden or Templar currently.
If you are attached to the character instead of performance I'd suggest dropping it for Degeneration or adding Mist Form to your bars. A mobility skill you can use to teleport into the enemy and directly cast Power Extraction. Vampire and Siphoning also fit together very well thematically.
You'd end up getting the 300 weapon/spell damage from Vampire's Strike From the Shadows passive + Major Brut/Sorc + Minor Courage + debuffing them with Minor Cowardice and potentially hitting them with Diseased.
Deimus
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Re: Templar charge attack should not taunt
Even as a templar tank, I don’t want it to taunt.
Soarora
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Re: PTS Update 47 - Feedback Thread for Black Gem Foundry
Concur with pretty much everything Code said - the changes to Soul Essence just make this fight suck now, which is a shame because the mechanics were pretty enjoyable before. At the end of Code's stream yesterday (22 July 2025) we did talk about some ideas for how this fight could be better reworked, so I want to develop some of the alternative suggestions we discussed.
I know Stiles seems to be really keen on the crystal mechanic so it seems unlikely that it's going to be reworked completely, but another suggestion could be that the Unstable Soul could drop an item/debuff on death, and the healer could then pick it up and take it to the correct crystal within a certain time? This allows the DDs to be able to nuke it wherever it is to avoid the boss getting it, or it getting killed accidentally in the crossfire from dealing with the Anguished Soul/Enervation mechanic, and then the healer being able to bee-line straight towards the appropriate crystal to dispose of the debuff. The healer could also potentially hold on to the debuff for a certain period, at their behest/judgment call, in order to be more available to heal the group through the Anguished Soul/Enervation mechanic before then completing the deposit of the debuff. This removes all of the clunky movement with having to drag the Unstable Soul around (especially as moving to a crystal that is already moving itself is even worse).
Another idea was swapping the mechanic order. Currently it proceeds as follows (forgive me for only partially correct terminology):
- Heavy attack/first round of "avoid spawning Soul Essences"
- Boss spawns an Unstable Soul
- Boss performs the Anguished Soul/Enervation mechanic on two people while the Unstable Soul is being corralled
- "Red Mini" (crusher) or "Yellow Mini" (withering) add spawns - this is usually right as our healer has got the Unstable Soul into the correct position and we have killed it
- "Illusion phase" where we reveal the safe coloured boss aspects. Usually the mini dies during this phase, if not before
- This all occurs until 60%, at which point the boss starts doing her staff mechanics, starts spawning two unstable souls, and stops doing the "illusion phase"
Would it be possible for the Unstable Soul to spawn after the Anguished Soul/Enervation mechanic, instead of just before? This lets us complete the Anguished Soul/Enervation mechanic in its entirety, with the healer in the group with us to better provide the required healing, before anyone has to worry about where the Unstable Soul is.
The other thing to consider is that by removing the illusion phase, you are removing a component of the boss' mechanics rotation, which will make her cycle through them quicker and thus you will have her spawning the Unstable Souls more frequently - this is not even considering the fact that she spawns two in the build up to execute anyway. As Code mentions, the Unstable Souls being forcibly turned into Soul Essences when she begins her staff mechanic sucks, so it's not like the addition of this mechanic to replace the removal of the illusion phase actually helps with timings.
tl;dr I guess my wishlist requests would be:
I know Stiles seems to be really keen on the crystal mechanic so it seems unlikely that it's going to be reworked completely, but another suggestion could be that the Unstable Soul could drop an item/debuff on death, and the healer could then pick it up and take it to the correct crystal within a certain time? This allows the DDs to be able to nuke it wherever it is to avoid the boss getting it, or it getting killed accidentally in the crossfire from dealing with the Anguished Soul/Enervation mechanic, and then the healer being able to bee-line straight towards the appropriate crystal to dispose of the debuff. The healer could also potentially hold on to the debuff for a certain period, at their behest/judgment call, in order to be more available to heal the group through the Anguished Soul/Enervation mechanic before then completing the deposit of the debuff. This removes all of the clunky movement with having to drag the Unstable Soul around (especially as moving to a crystal that is already moving itself is even worse).
Another idea was swapping the mechanic order. Currently it proceeds as follows (forgive me for only partially correct terminology):
- Heavy attack/first round of "avoid spawning Soul Essences"
- Boss spawns an Unstable Soul
- Boss performs the Anguished Soul/Enervation mechanic on two people while the Unstable Soul is being corralled
- "Red Mini" (crusher) or "Yellow Mini" (withering) add spawns - this is usually right as our healer has got the Unstable Soul into the correct position and we have killed it
- "Illusion phase" where we reveal the safe coloured boss aspects. Usually the mini dies during this phase, if not before
- This all occurs until 60%, at which point the boss starts doing her staff mechanics, starts spawning two unstable souls, and stops doing the "illusion phase"
Would it be possible for the Unstable Soul to spawn after the Anguished Soul/Enervation mechanic, instead of just before? This lets us complete the Anguished Soul/Enervation mechanic in its entirety, with the healer in the group with us to better provide the required healing, before anyone has to worry about where the Unstable Soul is.
The other thing to consider is that by removing the illusion phase, you are removing a component of the boss' mechanics rotation, which will make her cycle through them quicker and thus you will have her spawning the Unstable Souls more frequently - this is not even considering the fact that she spawns two in the build up to execute anyway. As Code mentions, the Unstable Souls being forcibly turned into Soul Essences when she begins her staff mechanic sucks, so it's not like the addition of this mechanic to replace the removal of the illusion phase actually helps with timings.
tl;dr I guess my wishlist requests would be:
- Rework the Unstable Souls so they drop a debuff on death instead of a Soul Essence, that then needs to be transported to the crystal within a certain time (10-15 seconds) - giving the depositor freedom to decide when they get to the crystal and what they can do to help the group in the meantime (e.g. run back to the centre and heal everyone) - if they don't make it, they drop a Soul Essence at their location (and die maybe? lol)
OR - Make Soul Essences despawn after a set duration (1 minute?)
AJTC5000
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Re: What is going on with the Dual Wield Heavy Attack?
CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »Avran_Sylt wrote: »Currently not playing, so can't test it out myself. Just wanted to add that dw heavy attacks have been broken for a long time, their damage doesn't go up (or not enough) compared to light attacks. Unless that got fixed, but I haven't seen anything in recent patch notes. So you might want to check that as well, and not bother using them at all if that's still the case. Unless it's to do a medium attack against an off balance target.
In every other game that I have played, Heavy Attack meant "More damage". That is not the case in ESO.
LA is the "Damage" attack given the nature of it being used in conjunction with abilities while weaving thanks to animation cancelling and Light attacks not being part of the ability GCD. Heavy Attacks are the attacks that have been relegated to resource return given their cast-time prevents casting abilities during them, effectively being the "Penalty" for not minding your resources in terms of damage output.
Bit odd, I know. It's more like an "Exhausted Attack"
Heavy attacks are more damage though... for everything except Dual Wield. Both Dual Wield heavies combined (last i tested) deal about 99% of a single Dual Wield light attack.
Thats either a bug, or extremely poor design when every other heavy attack deals significantly more than a light attack. At minimum it should at least be dealing 1.3x a single light attack or more.
Hmm, at 4470 WD 30.6K stam (Plus champion passives) my DW light attacks are hitting for 4388 and a Heavy Attack in total is hitting for a total of 7,510 (which is x1.71) on a Target Skeleton.
When you experimented were you using low stats? Perhaps the scaling is different.
EDI: Completely forgot I was using Oakensoul
At 2932 WD/30.6k Stam (+Champion stuff)
LA = 3381
HA = (1610x2) = 3220 (x0.95)
Huh yeah that is really odd.
Using 1H At 2554 WD/30.6k stam (+Champion stuff)
LA = 3173
HA = 4231 (x1.33)
Re: What is going on with the Dual Wield Heavy Attack?
Avran_Sylt wrote: »Currently not playing, so can't test it out myself. Just wanted to add that dw heavy attacks have been broken for a long time, their damage doesn't go up (or not enough) compared to light attacks. Unless that got fixed, but I haven't seen anything in recent patch notes. So you might want to check that as well, and not bother using them at all if that's still the case. Unless it's to do a medium attack against an off balance target.
In every other game that I have played, Heavy Attack meant "More damage". That is not the case in ESO.
LA is the "Damage" attack given the nature of it being used in conjunction with abilities while weaving thanks to animation cancelling and Light attacks not being part of the ability GCD. Heavy Attacks are the attacks that have been relegated to resource return given their cast-time prevents casting abilities during them, effectively being the "Penalty" for not minding your resources in terms of damage output.
Bit odd, I know. It's more like an "Exhausted Attack"
Heavy attacks are more damage though... for everything except Dual Wield. Both Dual Wield heavies combined (last i tested) deal about 99% of a single Dual Wield light attack.
Thats either a bug, or extremely poor design when every other heavy attack deals significantly more than a light attack. At minimum it should at least be dealing 1.3x a single light attack or more.
