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Re: The Truest Solution to ESO Server Performance
No way it had better performance.
Warden was literally unplayable / broken in Cyrodiil.
At Keep / Castle / bridge fights I had on average ~15-20 fps.
That was Vivec PC EU server (the main 30 day campaign).
Do I have to link old threads to show how horrible was?
Here it is my almost last post when I quit game on 16th June 2018 after canceled subscription:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5225044#Comment_5225044
Even PvE was plagued for months in 2018 before Summerset. I reported it:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/400325/game-performance-is-terrible-this-evening
Sorry, what you write is a rose tinted nostalgia.
And no, I don't play Cyrodiil in 2025 except Vengeance last time.
Warden was literally unplayable / broken in Cyrodiil.
At Keep / Castle / bridge fights I had on average ~15-20 fps.
That was Vivec PC EU server (the main 30 day campaign).
Do I have to link old threads to show how horrible was?
Here it is my almost last post when I quit game on 16th June 2018 after canceled subscription:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5225044#Comment_5225044
Even PvE was plagued for months in 2018 before Summerset. I reported it:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/400325/game-performance-is-terrible-this-evening
Sorry, what you write is a rose tinted nostalgia.
And no, I don't play Cyrodiil in 2025 except Vengeance last time.
exiars10
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Re: Provide more area damage for each theme/class
It would indeed be great if all classes/ themes had good AoE options and I definitely like some of the ideas you have.
I’ve been thinking about this on and off too, but I’m still not 100% sure what sort of buffs I'd like to see most. I think I'd prefer it if 10-12 second ground DoTs, short DoTs like Burning Talons and/or (delayed) AoE direct damage skills would be buffed though. Since these skills have a relatively short duration, Fatecarver setups wouldn't really benefit much from them being buffed.
I’m also wondering if skills like Subterranean Assault and Haunting Curse would be better with a shorter duration but higher DPS to compensate for casting them more often.
- Sub. Assault could just deal damage once after 3 seconds (I believe it worked like that in the past) and the damage could then be bumped up to Blighted Blastbones levels.
- Haunting Curse could maybe work like the current Sub. Assault and deal damage twice over 6 seconds instead of 12 seconds, or maybe just deal damage once after 4 seconds.
I'd also like to buff the ground dot, but the 10-second duration might still make it overpowered with Fatecarver. A common rotation of Pragmatic Fatecarver (4.5) + Cephaliarch's Flail*2 (0.3*2) can still be combined with 10-second dot, though it's more challenging to execute than a 15-second dot.
And as you mentioned, Burning Talons, Subterranean Assault, and Lotus Fan, all abilities with durations under 10 seconds, are indeed difficult to weave with Fatecarver. Unfortunately, each of these skills has its drawbacks. Burning Talons is in a weak line ; Lotus Fan, while in a strong line, has a cast time, otherwise it would have the potential to be a viable AoE option. Subterranean Assault, while in a decent line , and has no cast time, but suffers from the tendency to miss targets due to the player's orientation, especially in PvE when dealing with mechanics and dodging damage.
I've also considered improving Haunting Curse; after all, its 12-second duration is a bit awkward. Longer than the common 10-second dot, but shorter than the 15- or 20-second dot. Damage every 4 or 5 seconds might be the most viable. The advantage of 4 seconds is that it makes it difficult to weave with Fatecarver, while the advantage of 5 seconds is that it can be weaved with the common 10-second dot.
Lastly, I’d love to see new AoE (semi-)spammables. In the case of the Sorcerer, for example, Crystal Fragments could hit in an AoE similar to the old Crystal Blast or maybe one morph of Mages’ Fury could become a strong Shock AoE spammable instead of a weak execute.
Yes, I think it would be better to buff area-of-effect spam and give it more area-of-effect spam skills than to increase the damage of dot effects or delay-based skills. After all, Fatecarver is spam skill. Furthermore, boosting dot effects or delay-based skills could inadvertently enhance Fatecarver-related builds. If we had more powerful area-of-effect spam options, Fatecarver's shortcomings would become more apparent, such as the inability to block during the channel and the forced cooldown after being interrupted by external forces.
Re: Where are the Actual Patch Notes?
madmufffin wrote: »silky_soft wrote: »I don't get it either. Surely in their spreadsheets they can see what skills have been selected and what hasn't.
Just reduce cost of unused skills by 10% or bump their damage 10% or their stats 10% or their duration by a couple of seconds.
They could even do the same for unused sets.
There's literally charts made by people for PVE that very clearly show the discrepency of usage based on logs. It's sickening and they did literally nothing to raise the floor for viability. If it were for just dps, I'm sure the pick rate would be even more sickeningly unbalanced. I'm sure PVP has similar data as well even if it's harder to come by.
The most interesting thing about this chart is that if we use half the usage rate of the top-ranked line as the qualifying criterion, that is, 4399 ÷ 2, then all skill lines except the second-ranked one will be eliminated.
If we use half the usage rate of the third-ranked line (since players must have three class skill lines), that is, 1778 ÷ 2, then Sorc and Warden will be the only two eliminated, as the usage rates of their three lines are less than half of the third-ranked one.
Hopefully, Sorc and Warden will receive more attention in U48, as the current log shows that these two classes are the weakest and least popular in PvE.
Re: ZOS, What's Your Viewpoint on Subclassing in PvP? Addressing the Unbalanced Meta and Low Midyear May
Cyro performance right now is hands down the worst I've had in years. This isn't server lag... this is something different.
LadyGP
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Killing Questers - I think I owe someone and apology
This Mayhem I've spend a decent amount of time protecting questers in IC as well as a bit in Cyro. Not as much as I usually do, because life's been lifeing on me. Needless to say, I'm team don't kill questers. I have in the past admonished other pvpers for killing questers.
To those PvPers I say: I'm sorry. You have a right to play your way.
This Mayhem I've accidentally killed two questers. Both of which responded by verbally abusing me. The first, we sorted it out. The second, just got uglier and uglier until I just ignored.
My ever-so-patient partner said: I think... you might have learned that not all questers are worthy of your protection. And they are right.
Will I still protect questers? Yes, I will. But the next one that lambastes me will simply get the following response: No crying in PvP.
And I have left this Mayhem with a greater understand of the complaints of PvPers that I didn't understand before.
To those PvPers I say: I'm sorry. You have a right to play your way.
This Mayhem I've accidentally killed two questers. Both of which responded by verbally abusing me. The first, we sorted it out. The second, just got uglier and uglier until I just ignored.
My ever-so-patient partner said: I think... you might have learned that not all questers are worthy of your protection. And they are right.
Will I still protect questers? Yes, I will. But the next one that lambastes me will simply get the following response: No crying in PvP.
And I have left this Mayhem with a greater understand of the complaints of PvPers that I didn't understand before.
minnowfaun
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Re: Where are the Actual Patch Notes?
silky_soft wrote: »I don't get it either. Surely in their spreadsheets they can see what skills have been selected and what hasn't.
Just reduce cost of unused skills by 10% or bump their damage 10% or their stats 10% or their duration by a couple of seconds.
They could even do the same for unused sets.
There's literally charts made by people for PVE that very clearly show the discrepency of usage based on logs. It's sickening and they did literally nothing to raise the floor for viability. If it were for just dps, I'm sure the pick rate would be even more sickeningly unbalanced. I'm sure PVP has similar data as well even if it's harder to come by.
Re: Should there be a PvE only instance of Imperial City?
valenwood_vegan wrote: »No, not anymore than there should be pvp instances of every other zone in the game. With a game this big, every aspect of the game does not have to be catered to every player. There's not even much pve stuff to do in IC. I got the quest there done at a quiet time and never encountered another player. IC itself could use some work as it's not a popular zone, but that's a different issue than making a special safe pve version of one of the only pvp activities the game even has.
On the other hand... I think they might benefit from reusing the map and assets to create a new pve zone, unrelated to the current pvp zone. Perhaps an "after the war" type thing with a new questline. Since their development resources seem more limited, reusing a map, especially one so nostalgic and loved by TES fans, could be a good way to give us new content without stretching resources.
I know this thread got quite long, but my response early on the first page was this opinion and I think people are misunderstanding. They should definitely not take away IC and have a pve only instance where you can do the quests. That's pointless. What they should do is have a DLC of liberated IC after the 3 banners war. So nothing changes for pvp folks. As you said, with the new focus on reused assets, especially with oblivion remastered so popular, this could be a hit with fans. Such an iconic location as the imperial city and cyrodil stuck as a place where not many people go is a waste. The hint for the next season is dark brotherhood. Imagine that set in the rebuilding of the imperial city, corrupt officials, political infighting, murder for hire. Killing your target and popping down into the sewers. Could be fun, but in no way does that take away from the pvp experience.
Re: Please fix the Warden's Charm.
JustLovely wrote: »El_Borracho wrote: »It is by far the most annoying skill in PVP. When you stop and think about all of the skills and sets they have nerfed or wrecked over the years because they were "overperforming," only to give us the combo of ROA and Charm, its infuriating.
RoA is worse. At least charm doesn't violate ZOS' own rule sets.
He's referring to the combo of RoA after Ulfsid's with the Charm Script, and how ludicrously effective it is on borking CC immunity and leaving you in a horrible position for a long stretch.
Warden Charm is definitely a problem right now, and it is absolutely being used heavily by small sweat groups because it's just that good.
Re: Truly wretched set of Daily Endeavors for August 4
theskymoves wrote: »MreeBiPolar wrote: »
5 water/alchemy is ~2 min tops, 2 first Archive bosses is maybe 5 min, and firing s few shots from a siege weapon at a bridge/milegate in some of the many empty Cyr campaigns if you want to avoid any actual combat (even with mobs) in Cyr/IC is... Also maybe 5 minutes.
I just tried attacking a milegate with a siege weapon, and the damage didn't count toward the Endeavor.
It seems they changed the criteria for this daily achievement. The damage has to be done to players now.
Re: Concerned about the potential use of AI on loading screen artwork
@ZOS_Kevin You should probably look into this and then relay this to whoever is responsible.
I'm already not a fan of the Ui changes and preferred the way the old loading screens looked, so if you are feeling the need to "upscale" all the old artwork, then how about you don't use Ai and hire actual humans to create new loading screen art to match the new Ui - or you just don't mess with it in the first place.
Need I remind you of your policy that old art assets are not to be touched? We've had a whole drama about the Redguard armor style getting changed, to the point where the oldest crafting motifs in this game look very outdated now and Ancestral styles were added to resolve the issue without removing the old assets. Why does this not extend to loading screen artwork? Either someone clearly doesn't know how that "upscaling tool" works, which would be bad, or someone is trying to deceive customers by passing off Ai art as human art, which would also be bad.
Also consider that the EU has just passed another Ai act that requires transparency when it comes to Ai.
So unless you want to be held liable in the EU in the future, you better get your act together now and put in some effort, or at least be honest whenever you are taking shortcuts and we (the customers) will be the judge of it.
Thanks for relaying this.
I'm already not a fan of the Ui changes and preferred the way the old loading screens looked, so if you are feeling the need to "upscale" all the old artwork, then how about you don't use Ai and hire actual humans to create new loading screen art to match the new Ui - or you just don't mess with it in the first place.
Need I remind you of your policy that old art assets are not to be touched? We've had a whole drama about the Redguard armor style getting changed, to the point where the oldest crafting motifs in this game look very outdated now and Ancestral styles were added to resolve the issue without removing the old assets. Why does this not extend to loading screen artwork? Either someone clearly doesn't know how that "upscaling tool" works, which would be bad, or someone is trying to deceive customers by passing off Ai art as human art, which would also be bad.
Also consider that the EU has just passed another Ai act that requires transparency when it comes to Ai.
Source
So unless you want to be held liable in the EU in the future, you better get your act together now and put in some effort, or at least be honest whenever you are taking shortcuts and we (the customers) will be the judge of it.
Thanks for relaying this.
