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Re: Nevermind
In it's current form, it has the potential to negatively impact the PVP experience for many people. That is why many of us are trying to see it (rightfully) brought in line before it goes live - nobody that doesn't play a WW wants someone with 40k HP and one bar dealing 6-10k DPS to them in pvp. Its not an unreasonable ask at all, and the spec simply does not need to be dealing that amount of damage with such little effort in PVP.
On the PVE/everything else side of the game, it hardly matters what WW is doing. They can make it as competitive as they like there, because it won't negatively affect anyone else's experience. They have the tools to distinguish the two with exclusions like "against monsters" or "against players". Its selfish to pretend like PVP players should just accept balance being decimated because casual/RP players want a certain power fantasy in an MMO.
Why exactly should a one bar setup be competitive with high end two bar setups? Having more mechanical complexity required to play your build should net better results. You're seriously downplaying the effectiveness of the PTS WW here as well, because it isn't just competitive - it achieves the best DPS possible. On the PTS, it is dealing north of the best DPS possible by two bar setups as a baseline, even matching those setups without class mastery passives and while missing 33% WD, with a fraction of the mechanical complexity. That is not healthy.
You saw pelican's video, and you claimed that the people he was fighting were clueless - yet, some of the people in that video were genuinely some of the best duelers on the entire game. WW is dealing such a mind-boggling amount of damage that it makes these players look like they can't defend themselves - because you quite literally cannot defend yourself against 6k+ DPS reasonably and WW is dealing up to 10k dps with spikes of up to 13k dps.
To be honest, this is the worst case of disingenuous bias I have ever seen in my years on these forums. Dozens of WW players completely unwilling to acknowledge that there is a problem, shifting the goal posts and changing their argument each time they're being presented with evidence that the spec is overperforming. Its genuinely disappointing.
On the PVE/everything else side of the game, it hardly matters what WW is doing. They can make it as competitive as they like there, because it won't negatively affect anyone else's experience. They have the tools to distinguish the two with exclusions like "against monsters" or "against players". Its selfish to pretend like PVP players should just accept balance being decimated because casual/RP players want a certain power fantasy in an MMO.
Us PvPers and PvErs were there to test their changes and give feedback. Why blame us for ZOS's incompetence?
Are they incompetent? They've intentionally buffed werewolf to be competitive with the class rework. Other classes and specs are pulling similar numbers except with more potential survivability from various skills, etc. and potential burst damage spikes.
Why exactly should a one bar setup be competitive with high end two bar setups? Having more mechanical complexity required to play your build should net better results. You're seriously downplaying the effectiveness of the PTS WW here as well, because it isn't just competitive - it achieves the best DPS possible. On the PTS, it is dealing north of the best DPS possible by two bar setups as a baseline, even matching those setups without class mastery passives and while missing 33% WD, with a fraction of the mechanical complexity. That is not healthy.
You saw pelican's video, and you claimed that the people he was fighting were clueless - yet, some of the people in that video were genuinely some of the best duelers on the entire game. WW is dealing such a mind-boggling amount of damage that it makes these players look like they can't defend themselves - because you quite literally cannot defend yourself against 6k+ DPS reasonably and WW is dealing up to 10k dps with spikes of up to 13k dps.
To be honest, this is the worst case of disingenuous bias I have ever seen in my years on these forums. Dozens of WW players completely unwilling to acknowledge that there is a problem, shifting the goal posts and changing their argument each time they're being presented with evidence that the spec is overperforming. Its genuinely disappointing.
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Re: Monsters on Housing????? hmmmmmm
Like monsters that attack anyone that visits the house? That sounds like something that could be abused. Like a house on the Home Tours that has monsters that kill most players that visit.
That could be quite funny, like if someone put up a home called 'Fluffy ja'khajiit nursery' and upon entry you'd immediately get murdered by 10 mantikoras. But obviously there'd need to be an option to respawn outside first, so you aren't stuck in an endless death cycle.
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Re: Time Spent Playing Has Increased Dramatically
Nemesis7884 wrote: »Isnt it a good thing if your time playing a game increases? It means you have things to do and fun...? I consider that good i dunno...
Not all of the tasks are what I would call "fun."
I don't want to be all doom and gloom. I really do like some of the rewards. I got some cosmetics I missed because they came out when I didn't feel like playing, or before my time with the game. That's very nice. Happened to luck out and see things I both did not have, and actually would want. That's really great.
I would LOVE the tome if I could more tailor my playtime to things I like. For me that is things like World Bosses, Dungeons, Battlegrounds, and Story Questing. Most of those do have tome tasks, aside from Story Questing as far as I am aware. But it's RNG.
Thigs like Gathering, and each gather being it's very own task that seems to clutter my book every week, is not it. I think someone suggested having categories we could pick instead of getting each different gather for most of our rerolls, so we can both have FUN and work on getting rewards.
Re: Why nine hours maintenance daytime every week?
As a more casual PVE player I love it. It's the easiest time to level up alliance skill lines because you don't need a dedicated PVP build.Funny thing is, if the threads on the subject are anything to go by, PvP players don't like it
In normal cyro all I can do is scum the odd kill another player dealt 99% of the damage on, or maybe repair some keep walls, and die in .1 seconds the moment I'm spotted.
In Vengeance I can actually deal earned deathblows and not get absolutely danced around by hyperskilled veterans of war.
Maybe that's the reason they don't like it lol, but I have more fun when I don't have to try excessively hard and can still dip my toes into the PVP content.
And on that note, I'll be finishing my lines from Rank 9 to 10 this week to get that done with.
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
First off, thank you ZOS so much for improving the werewolf experience! I have been petitioning for this since 1 year after launch. I have to pinch myself that its happening haha. So, thank you!
I recently installed the PTS and immediately checked out the new werewolf features! WOW incredible so far. The audio and visuals alone make it 10x better for me. After soloing three hard dungeons and traveling endlessly on all fours all across Tamerial with NO WEREWOLF TIMER (THANK YOU SO MUCH), i have a couple thoughts.
Visuals: Berserker - I love everything about this model besides the red scars on the arms. little too blood makica feeling and not enough berserker werewolf for me. The height is wonderful! fur texture, wonderful! Eyes, wonderful! (I haven't played pack leader so i won't comment)
Animations: Running - i LOVVE the running animation. A few years back i made a ESO forums post called "Werewolf and Vampire travel Forms". The basic idea of that post was to allow us more RP for werewolf and vampires. removing the werewolf timer out of combat and creating a whole new running animation FITS THE BILL for me. I'm thrilled with that. Running on all fours is ESSENTIAL for me. It wouldn't feel like a werewolf if it didn't sprint on all fours. Details matter, thank you for getting that right.
FEW COMBAT ANIMATION BUGS - I noticed with the "feral Pounce" ability that one of the morphs has no audio and looks a bit clunky. Love the cone idea though. The channeled claw attack morph looks like the werewolves' shoulders are dislocated when striking over and over to me. AMAZING combat skill but i think the animation needs a bit of tuning if at all possible.
The bite skill is by far my favorite! the audio, the feeling of tearing out a chunk of flesh is really there with this skill. 10/10.
Werewolf Sprint Speeds - As I mentioned, running on all fours is ESSENTIAL as a werewolf. you have nailed the animation and audio! I think since we are finally able to traverse the world as a werewolf unencumbered by a timer, maybe increase werewolf sprint speeds to match a mount speed OUT OF COMBAT. Maybe The speed of your werewolf is determined by your actual current mount speed. This would sure allow players to fully immerse and feel like were running at true werewolf speeds.
Audio - MY GOSH the audio. Amazing! the feeding audio is the least impressive to me, but it makes up for it after the wolf is done feeding. He shakes his head and lets out a true beastly grunt. SO satisfying.
One of the werewolves kill cams (savage...something? I can't remember the name) is just a big howl at your target that kills them. I think this might need some work. At the least pick a different audio for the howl. Something more savage. great Idea with those kill cams though. I'm LOVING Them.
Combat - I honestly am Very satisfied with the state of the werewolf combat. plenty of sustain, Heals, bleeds and abilities like the channeled claw attack to utilize other armor sets like deadly ECT. This is the one Area I don't have any notes on. YOU GUYS KILLED IT.
conclusion - As you can probably tell I'm very passionate about werewolves but also about ESO. I have been playing since launch. From the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU! all these changes, refreshes, updates! making the necessary changes to modernize and make ESO relevant to VET and New players. I can tell who ever worked on this werewolf refresh, that they are just as passionate as I am about Werewolves in ESO. Thank you for taking the time to ask your community for feedback and ACTUALLY take it into account. What a TIME to be ALIVE as a werewolf fan. THANK YOU!
I recently installed the PTS and immediately checked out the new werewolf features! WOW incredible so far. The audio and visuals alone make it 10x better for me. After soloing three hard dungeons and traveling endlessly on all fours all across Tamerial with NO WEREWOLF TIMER (THANK YOU SO MUCH), i have a couple thoughts.
Visuals: Berserker - I love everything about this model besides the red scars on the arms. little too blood makica feeling and not enough berserker werewolf for me. The height is wonderful! fur texture, wonderful! Eyes, wonderful! (I haven't played pack leader so i won't comment)
Animations: Running - i LOVVE the running animation. A few years back i made a ESO forums post called "Werewolf and Vampire travel Forms". The basic idea of that post was to allow us more RP for werewolf and vampires. removing the werewolf timer out of combat and creating a whole new running animation FITS THE BILL for me. I'm thrilled with that. Running on all fours is ESSENTIAL for me. It wouldn't feel like a werewolf if it didn't sprint on all fours. Details matter, thank you for getting that right.
FEW COMBAT ANIMATION BUGS - I noticed with the "feral Pounce" ability that one of the morphs has no audio and looks a bit clunky. Love the cone idea though. The channeled claw attack morph looks like the werewolves' shoulders are dislocated when striking over and over to me. AMAZING combat skill but i think the animation needs a bit of tuning if at all possible.
The bite skill is by far my favorite! the audio, the feeling of tearing out a chunk of flesh is really there with this skill. 10/10.
Werewolf Sprint Speeds - As I mentioned, running on all fours is ESSENTIAL as a werewolf. you have nailed the animation and audio! I think since we are finally able to traverse the world as a werewolf unencumbered by a timer, maybe increase werewolf sprint speeds to match a mount speed OUT OF COMBAT. Maybe The speed of your werewolf is determined by your actual current mount speed. This would sure allow players to fully immerse and feel like were running at true werewolf speeds.
Audio - MY GOSH the audio. Amazing! the feeding audio is the least impressive to me, but it makes up for it after the wolf is done feeding. He shakes his head and lets out a true beastly grunt. SO satisfying.
One of the werewolves kill cams (savage...something? I can't remember the name) is just a big howl at your target that kills them. I think this might need some work. At the least pick a different audio for the howl. Something more savage. great Idea with those kill cams though. I'm LOVING Them.
Combat - I honestly am Very satisfied with the state of the werewolf combat. plenty of sustain, Heals, bleeds and abilities like the channeled claw attack to utilize other armor sets like deadly ECT. This is the one Area I don't have any notes on. YOU GUYS KILLED IT.
conclusion - As you can probably tell I'm very passionate about werewolves but also about ESO. I have been playing since launch. From the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU! all these changes, refreshes, updates! making the necessary changes to modernize and make ESO relevant to VET and New players. I can tell who ever worked on this werewolf refresh, that they are just as passionate as I am about Werewolves in ESO. Thank you for taking the time to ask your community for feedback and ACTUALLY take it into account. What a TIME to be ALIVE as a werewolf fan. THANK YOU!
Re: How to get "triune" material for jewelry?
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Re: Duo-Dynamo Dungeon Delver Spider
spartaxoxo wrote: »FlopsyPrince wrote: »So has anyone found this worth the cost, especially if you don't care much about cosmetics?
Well, it's from the Premium Rewards, so you get more than just the mount when you buy it. Since it is part of a bundle, it's actually one of the cheaper mounts you can buy for real money.
I personally like the duo mounts because your companion can ride along or another player. For me, I like that extra functionality enough that it was worth it but I also just like the look of it too.
I bought the other similar spider mount some time in the past, so I have a duo one (and the horse). I will have to consider it.
Thanks!
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Class Mastery
CaptainVenom wrote: »Class Mastery points could be based on how many subclasses the character has. If you subclass just one skill line, you get just 1 point.
There is a REASON why they call them "Class Mastery" points, because you are the master of your SINGLE class. The entire point of these is to make single-classing equal to subclassing. Including subclassing at all makes the whole effort pointless.
But Sublassing only one skill line is a huge loss now compared to Sublassing two skill lines and no Subclassing at all.
I totally agree with @CaptainVenom to get 1 point less per subclassed line.
Re: It Appears Grey Host and Vengeance Will Exist Side by Side After All. Thoughts?
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
I have now had a chance to look on the PTS to see the PVP Veterancy rewards. The first 33 Veterancy rewards are heavily Vengeance focused with each level of Veterancy unlocking at least one Vengeance perk. Veterancy levels 1, 5, 9, 13, 17, 21, 25, 29, and 33 unlock three Vengeance perks.
Of the first 1/3 of Veterancy, 100% of the rewards have some form of Vengeance boost, and 27% of the Veterancy rewards are exclusively Vengeance boosts. Of the total 100 levels of Veterancy, 9% are Vengeance boosts only. It is not hard to see why people think Veterancy is specifically related to Vengeance since it unlocks all the Vengeance boosts.
So as it stands you gain ranks in Veterancy by playing in Battlegrounds, IC and Cyrodiil in order to unlock better customization options in Vengeance and few crafting and PVP related rewards. Then after Veterancy rank 33, you get generic crafting and PVP related rewards.
I have now had a chance to look on the PTS to see the PVP Veterancy rewards. The first 33 Veterancy rewards are heavily Vengeance focused with each level of Veterancy unlocking at least one Vengeance perk. Veterancy levels 1, 5, 9, 13, 17, 21, 25, 29, and 33 unlock three Vengeance perks.
Of the first 1/3 of Veterancy, 100% of the rewards have some form of Vengeance boost, and 27% of the Veterancy rewards are exclusively Vengeance boosts. Of the total 100 levels of Veterancy, 9% are Vengeance boosts only. It is not hard to see why people think Veterancy is specifically related to Vengeance since it unlocks all the Vengeance boosts.
So as it stands you gain ranks in Veterancy by playing in Battlegrounds, IC and Cyrodiil in order to unlock better customization options in Vengeance and few crafting and PVP related rewards. Then after Veterancy rank 33, you get generic crafting and PVP related rewards.
Re: A social issue people are reluctant to bring up
How would you block a player instead of an account? I'm honestly asking. Via IP address? Via e-mail address? Via requiring face recognition or other identity confirmation?I'd like to ask that Zos consider move to blocking the player, not the account. It's been asked before by many people but perhaps under new leadership, it's time to raise it again.
