My brother in Azura, this is an MMO. Other people play this game too and have their own head cannons, their own immersions and some just want to goof around. If you want total immersion that suit your own style you should play the single player Elder scrolls games instead.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

All that being said, happy to take any additional feedback to the team for their consideration

Cosmetics grounded in the setting are great.

Great:
We see Durzog tamers (Arushna, Nikolvara, multiple goblin clans). We see tame guar, Necrom guards on guar, ambient dialogue about guar burials. We see Kagouti, Nix Oxen, even the little vvardvark babies convinced me the grown mounts make sense. I have several of these mounts & will keep buying more of those variants.

I'd buy an Echatere mount - we see them used by merchants as pack animals, herded by Clan Shatul, in the wild, etc. I'd buy a silt strider pack companion after seeing NPC merchants & Ashlanders traveling with them.

Gloomspore Mounts (in Blackreach)? Vampire thrall skins? Lamp Knight armor? What they all have in common is that they have in-game representation and thus players can form attachments to some or come up with cohesive reasons to have one. One group of friends all got Gloomspore mounts after an adventure in Blackreach, figuring we already had a mycoturge in the guild & OOC it'd be our little memory of the expedition.



Not Great?
The "Ice Wolf" claims Nords of Hjaalmarch ride them yet no one in Morthal does - they only have 4 horses in their stables.

The "Black Bear" claims warriors use them as mounts in northern High Rock & Skyim - but Shornhelm's stables are all horses.

These aren't even obviously glowy mounts - an overwhelming amount of the time, humans either (1) don't use mounts or (2) only have horses. I feel like I'm being pranked each time a mount claims to be used by humans & yet never appear unless its a horse.

No two elven races pretend to be homogenous, yet humans all too often seem to settle for "normalcy". Instead of distinct civilizations with their own legends & creatures & magic, it feels like so many glowing mounts exist because there's no "need" to connect humans to their myths.

Morrowind has a handful of unique fauna it can recolor & sell to me - but I'd be livid if I got a "free magma horse from Red Mountain!" - I'd buy an Echatere from Wrothgar immediately, no interest in "ice camels from Orsinium!" - I'd buy a camel or duneripper from Hammerfell, but don't want to see a "ancient Yokudan sand bear!"

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Wormmouth are native to Hammerfell & their skeleton might resemble a Kagouti - I feel that's a more natural fit for an exotic mount than, say, a glowy 4-armed pony-spirit.

One of my pet peeves is owning the Nenalata Ayleid Bear - they had Guar, Camel, Wolves, Horses, etc? How did these animals outlive their extinct masters? No previous lore suggesting a magic zoo, no in-game representation - every time I see the bear in my collections, I quit thinking of ESO & see Narnia. It doesn't feel a part of the setting.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Is there a style or kind of cosmetic we have made in the past that you would like us to lean more into?

Bugs. Cosmetics don't have to be mundane - but using local materials (chaurus, echatere, duneripper, armored mites, parrapton, assassin beetles, shalks, elytra, glyptodons, hoarvor.... are all more "real" than a thunder pony).

Morrowind's has Dreugh, Bonemold, Morag Tong, Ashlander - the https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Roksa_the_Warped_Style is great stuff.

But they're not the only culture with giant bugs. Bosmer, Argonian, Redguard also have giant shalk, wasps, hoarvor, giant scorpions and snakes. Bretons have a couple giant spider bosses. The Grim Harlequin crates gave us Falmer "Chitinous" style some years back. But imagine:

• Maybe Nords in Blackreach adapting local materials (I love how Blackreach Vanguard mixes chitin, metal, leather and fur).
• Maybe Dunmer artisans adapt their techniques to chaurus shells?
• Maybe deep-cave dwelling Wrothgarian Orcs crafting a lamellar chaurus plate?
• Maybe some kind of "Falmer Witch" that's less half-naked barbarian & more robes?

I'd argue some of the consistently strongest Crown Crate products are the styles & weapons - I love seeing Lamp Knight on NPCs, I'd love to see Betnikh orcs wearing Seamount style, etc.

The strongest crate items are always the ones one would be willing to use on an NPC in-game. If something is too zany for that low bar, then it's going to be distracting. Conversely, actually putting some models into the game would help make more sense of them.

Here's the list written out if anyone else also wants to keep track:

Craft 10 Items with any skill
Craft 50 Items with any skill
Craft 100 Items with any skill
Craft 500 Items with any skill
Complete 10 Crafting Quests
Craft 25 Items inside your home
Complete 5 Consumables Master Writs
Complete 5 Durables Master Writs
Refine Raw Materials 20 Times
Improve 10 Item/Items
Complete 1 Survey Report
Craft 100 Items with the Alchemy skill
Craft 15 Items with the Blacksmithing skill
Craft 15 Items with the Clothier skill
Craft 15 Items with the Enchanting skill
Craft 15 Items with the Jewelrey Crafting skill
Craft 50 Items with the Provisioning skill
Craft 15 Items with the Woodworking skill
Deconstruct or Research 200 Pieces of Equipment
Deconstruct 25 Items at a Jewelry Crafting table
Deconstruct 25 Items at a Woodworking table
Extract 50 Items at an Enchanting table
Deconstruct 50 Items at a Clothier table
Deconstruct 50 Items at a Blacksmithing table
Harvest 250 Resources from the World
Cut 50 Logs of Wood
Mine 20 Jewel Seams
Collect Runestones from 50 Nodes
Collect 50 Cloth-Producing Plants
Mine 50 Veins of Ore
Collect 10 Pure Water Springs or Alchemical Plants
Enchant 1 Piece of Equipment
Craft 1 Armore of the Seducer Item
Craft 1 Night Mother's Gaze Item
Craft 1 Hunding's Rage Item
Craft 1 Twilight's Embrace Item
Craft 1 Ashen Grip Item
Craft 1 Death's Wind Item
Craft 1 Torug's Pact Item

(Edit: Oops, missed one.)

Expecting compensation for scheduled maintenance 🤦🏼

I feel like this should be 800 crowns tops. It's ONE skill. It's cool, but I can't support it at that price, sorry.

MincMincMinc wrote: »

Well you shouldnt just walk into pvp, just like a new player shouldnt just walk into VCR. Taking no steps to learn or get gear before hand is your own fault. Secondly it is Zos's fault for neglecting PvP to this degree for 10 years. The majority of the people in pvp are all veterans as there is no learning environments anymore.

IC has no rewards or goals, so the only thing to do is run around and kill each other

some of the best players pcna play with 250-300ping from south america or SEA.

Again new players aren't worth anything, they drop no currency. Again there is no other reward or goal in IC other than killing each other.

Sure... but are you going to tell them? Im sure its all fun and games when you live for more the a min. But most just explode.
And yes... People do walk into vCR with no exp and no gear and get carried because the rest of the group can and do carry them.
The decent people talk to them and try to help them when they fail badly. This dosnt happen in PVP as much as it should. The decent people just move on. The rest, teabag and tell you you suck.

My latency is bad enough that someone can attack me for a full 2 secs sometimes before I even see them. Iv had to record myself dieing JUST to see when hit me.

They do have currency. One that they lose half of when they died, the other one is just AP. And yet... People still farm the 1exp point newbies at spawn points.

SilverBride wrote: »

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

I can see why it might be a bit immersion breaking to see several molag bals, people have been clowning on bad guys for ages. Someone pointed out above Charlie Chaplin clowning the 'Great Dictator', and I am sure it goes further back than that.

Charlie Chaplain was a real world performer 100 years ago. Anything he did is not relevant to what happens in a game world today.

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

We even have a festival dedicated to clowning on the three leaders of the alliance...

Clowning around at our own leaders isn't the same as demeaning the first big bad guy in the game, and reducing him to a joke.

Why not? To reduce fear of something, you make it a joke? So, if you want to reduce people's fear of Molag Bal, you make him a joke. It honestly makes MORE sense to me to clown on a bad guy, to make him seem ridiculous and weak, than it does to clown upon a leader you respect (though I can understand why they would clown on the leaders, because it is all a bit of fun).

Also, things that happen in the real world are very relevant to a game world today, because that game world doesn't exist in a vacuum. Game lore often draws on parallels to aspects of the real world all the time, even down to scenery and cultures.

Charlie Chaplin was a performer, this game has performers, so why wouldn't performers act like real world performers? There are people who write plays, the real world has people who write plays. Actors who play those roles.

Again, game lore, and elder scrolls lore in particular, does not exist in a vacuum. It can, and often does, draw on real world symbolisms and historical events and just draws on the real world itself, for inspiration.