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Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »If they would stop doing these tests (as the very vocal anti-Vengeance players demand it), what should ZOS be doing instead? If the answer is nothing, then you've pretty much doomed Cyrodiil for everyone.
Idk, maybe test it themselves instead of using unpaid player base to test a concept that most are against.
Perhaps forcing their own employees to test it, instead of us, will give them some actual insight into PVP and they'll learn something? Wishful thinking...
They can never replicate the scenarios you get in live cyro with internal testing. Ever.
albertberku wrote: »Well i listed 3 builds actually. 1: DoT with Maarselok (10% usage). 2: DK (60%), 3: Damage/Burst lines subclass (15%).
And vengeance is 100% nightblades so what is your point?
There will always be a “meta” in every single aspect of the game that people will naturally migrate to. The toxic PvE community is forever reminding of us that: “no you can’t join my raid team because you don’t have an arcanist nor are you parsing 180k dps”.
Your argument that GH is bad because everyone plays the same build while at the same time defending Veng where everyone plays the same build, frankly baffles me.
Thats simply not true. I have seen a huge variety of classes in Vengeance. There are even pure necromancers running around again! Which is simply unheard of in GH.
SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »MincMincMinc wrote: »Four_Fingers wrote: »When Vengeance finally goes live and the seasoned PvP players that have been sitting it out return, I wonder how long it will be till posts show up whining that they are still getting killed.
Did this actually happen? Lol. I'm genuinely asking because I like to play both GH and the Vengeance test but the only ones that were whining were the GH sweats that didn't have their crutches available in Vengeance, lol
Yeah I noticed alot of people complaining that veng was only for zergs and how it was impossible to solo. Then I and a few others had no issues 1vXing and doing all the same things I normally would. I could still pull people into towers or chokeholds to 1vX. I could make a group and kite enemies into seige spots like trapping enemies in holes then oiling them.
Maybe its just because Im an old PvPer who remembers smallman pvping without all of the handholding most "elite" coordinated groups have with their group stacking sets that give them 10x a normal player's stats while fully immune to all CC. IDK it feels like the 2014-2015 era pvp where you needed map knowledge and actual kiting skills.
Vengeance has NEVER felt anything like live Cyrodiil. It's always been a stripped down zerg fest where the only thing that matters is the size of the zerg. Vengeance has never been and never will be anything like live Cyrodiil. That's why vengeance will never be a legitimate preparation for live Cyrodiil as well.
I have seen a lot of 1vxing going on, and small scale as well, so this simply is not true. Cyrodiil was however BUILT for zerging, that was kind of the whole point, so if you see more of that, and you see bigger groups again because the game isnt a slide show, that is a good thing in my book.
Performance has been terrible, and ranged builds are limited to melee range... so whats the point? How is this fun? Guess im not playing ESO for a week then...
28 meters isnt melee range.....
Jammy420
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Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
Skill to zerg people? You hardly can find 1v1, hardly can avoid zerging. I used to take recourse solo and then kite, survive and kill as much as I can, but in Vengeance you just can't do it effectively. 3 people with 90% chance will kill you if you try to attack, so all you can is run and wait until there is only one enemy.
Can't kill against a 1v3? Skill issue, git gud
Man the ESO brainrot is real. In what game is it reasonable to 1v10 and win?
Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
I mean pro-Vengeance people doesnt really give a s about your opinions as "PvP veterans" (lol) on Vengeance. We are enjoying ourselves and the campaign is full of players. You are the minority here. You will just diminish as your beloved Grey Host will do. Soo there is that. You had your fun, you got carried by your builds extensively in the recent years. Now the fun is over.
Re: Breton Furnishings Update
Agree, I love the new ones and would like to see them updated!
I would think there might be some hesitance about replacing furnishing models because players may be using them creatively in ways that rely on the old textures. Some even use the old blurry textures to their advantage in creative cobbles.
However, I think that use-case is probably a tiny minority? And in this case, the texture update is so subtle and the color stays the same, IMO it'd be safe to update them.
Also, I saw some great wooden barrels and stuff around towns. I hope we'll get those as new items!
I would think there might be some hesitance about replacing furnishing models because players may be using them creatively in ways that rely on the old textures. Some even use the old blurry textures to their advantage in creative cobbles.
However, I think that use-case is probably a tiny minority? And in this case, the texture update is so subtle and the color stays the same, IMO it'd be safe to update them.
Also, I saw some great wooden barrels and stuff around towns. I hope we'll get those as new items!
MoonPile
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Re: Breton Furnishings Update
Moving slightly away from the Breton set itself, I noticed that the food items in Glenumbra have also received a visual refresh:
PLEASE, PLEASE let us use these in our homes. I'd argue this is even more important than the Breton furnishings. A large portion of the base game furnishings in the "Hearth" category is practically unusable for me right now, as they look like they belong to a completely different era (not even 2014, more like 2006).
Thanks for pointing these out. This would be a game changer for kitchens/stockrooms in housing builds. I've always been disappointed by how these baskets and containers of food look like flat green slime and have never used them as a result. The new models look great!
Virenic
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Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
Man you guys are embarassing...
"No ONe Is GoInG To PlAy ThIs WHeN GrEy HoSt is HEre AlSo".... then why are you here, crying about something that you believe will not impact you or your game play?
If people like this style of play - Why are you here? Crying about it as if your opinion should mean they shouldn't enjoy it? Grey Host will be an active campaign, Veng will be an active campaign. Most of you are in here arguing build diversity and blah blah blah, when we all know (myelf included) we are running a combination of the same 6 sets and 5 skill lines.
"VeNg WaS ONlY SuPpOseD tO Be A teSt" you're right, it was. And, well it was enjoyed so much it was able to grow into something A LOT of people enjoy. And you simply cannot handle that.
I hope to many of you arent losing more hair than you should.
@zos Youre doing pretty cool things. Keep up cool things. My friends in here who all run Rallying Cry do not mean any of their nonsense whining. They still enjoy the game.
"No ONe Is GoInG To PlAy ThIs WHeN GrEy HoSt is HEre AlSo".... then why are you here, crying about something that you believe will not impact you or your game play?
If people like this style of play - Why are you here? Crying about it as if your opinion should mean they shouldn't enjoy it? Grey Host will be an active campaign, Veng will be an active campaign. Most of you are in here arguing build diversity and blah blah blah, when we all know (myelf included) we are running a combination of the same 6 sets and 5 skill lines.
"VeNg WaS ONlY SuPpOseD tO Be A teSt" you're right, it was. And, well it was enjoyed so much it was able to grow into something A LOT of people enjoy. And you simply cannot handle that.
I hope to many of you arent losing more hair than you should.
@zos Youre doing pretty cool things. Keep up cool things. My friends in here who all run Rallying Cry do not mean any of their nonsense whining. They still enjoy the game.
Gizit
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Infinite Archive & Imperial City: Weekly Vendors between April 21 and April 28, 2026
This week, Filer Ool will offer the following at the Infinite Archive:
Cycle reward chests will have Armor Sets from the following zones:
The Tel Var Merchants will be offering the following at the Alliance Bases in the Imperial City Sewers:
- Archival Essay: Bal Foyen Treasure Map (2000 Fortunes)
- Bound Style Page: Stonekeeper Shoulder(15000 Fortunes)
- May require having access to Frostvault (Wrathstone DLC Dungeon) to purchase.
- Bound Affix Script: Berserk (10000 or 2000 Fortunes)
- You must complete The Wing of the Netch in the Scribing questline to purchase.
- Affix Scripts can alternatively drop from the following:
- DLC World Event Daily Quest coffers
- Imperial City Daily Quest coffers
- Undaunted Delve Daily Quest coffers
- Bound Focus Script: Bleed Damage (15000 or 3000 Fortunes)
- Bound Focus Script: Immobilize (15000 or 3000 Fortunes)
- You must complete The Wing of the Gryphon in the Scribing questline to purchase.
- Focus Scripts can alternatively drop from the following:
- DLC Delve Daily Quest coffers
- Rewards for the Worthy coffers
- Mages Guild Daily Quest coffers
- Bound Signature Script: Crusader's Defiance (20000 or 4000 Fortunes)
- You must complete The Wing of the Dragon in the Scribing questline to purchase.
- Signature Scripts can alternatively drop from the following:
- DLC World Boss Daily Quest coffers
- Cyrodiil Town Daily Quest coffers
- Fighters Guild Daily Quest coffers
- Companion Equipment: Heavy Armor (5000 Fortunes)
- Public Dungeon Collectible Fragment: Sixth House Writhing Thread (3000 Fortunes)
- One of 7 fragments for the Sixth House Robe Costume. Can be consumed and tracked with the Sixth House Robe Achievement.
- It can alternatively drop from random enemies in the Forgotten Wastes (Vvardenfell Public Dungeon).
- Infinite Archive Collectible Fragment: Maligraphic Ichor (10000 Fortunes)
- ToT Deck Fragment: Delver's Alessia Deck Fragment (1000 Fortunes)
- It can alternatively drop from the Delve Bosses in West Weald.
- Lead: Apocrypha Stone Base (5000 Fortunes)
- One of the leads for the Vision of Mora Furnishing.
- It can alternatively drop from the Infinite Archive. It's dig site is located in Apocrypha.
- Lead: Fangs of Bitter Mercy (5000 Fortunes)
- One of the leads for the Huntsman's Warmask Mythic.
- It can alternatively drop from Vykosa the Ascendant in the Moon Hunter Keep (Wolfhunter DLC Dungeon Final Boss). Its digsite is located in Solstice.
- Furnishing Pattern: Dark Elf Rug, Fungal (2000 Fortunes)
- Furnishing Praxis: High Isle Turret, Conical Castle (2000 Fortunes)
- Furnishing Praxis: Telvanni Table Runner, Bordered Azure (2000 Fortunes)
- Book Furnishing: How Rajhin Stole the Book That Knows (1000 Fortunes)
- Book Furnishing: Life in the Camonna Tong (1000 Fortunes)
Cycle reward chests will have Armor Sets from the following zones:
- Stonefalls
- Shadow of the Red Mountain
- Shalk Exoskeleton
- Silks of the Sun
- High Isle
- Blessing of High Isle
- Steadfast's Mettle
- Systres' Scowl
The Tel Var Merchants will be offering the following at the Alliance Bases in the Imperial City Sewers:
- Archival Essay: Bal Foyen Treasure Map (6000 Tel Var)
- Bound Affix Script: Defile (10000 Tel Var)
- You must complete The Wing of the Netch in the Scribing questline to purchase.
- Affix Scripts can alternatively drop from the following:
- DLC World Event Daily Quest coffers
- Imperial City Daily Quest coffers
- Undaunted Delve Daily Quest coffers
- Bound Focus Script: Generate Ultimate (15000 Tel Var)
- Bound Focus Script: Trauma (15000 Tel Var)
- You must complete The Wing of the Gryphon in the Scribing questline to purchase.
- Focus Scripts can alternatively drop from the following:
- DLC Delve Daily Quest coffers
- Rewards for the Worthy coffers
- Mages Guild Daily Quest coffers
- Bound Signature Script: Gladiator's Tenacity (20000 Tel Var)
- You must complete The Wing of the Dragon in the Scribing questline to purchase.
- Signature Scripts can alternatively drop from the following:
- DLC World Boss Daily Quest coffers
- Cyrodiil Town Daily Quest coffers
- Fighters Guild Daily Quest coffers
- Skill Style Fragment: Fragment of the Exarch (5000 Tel Var)
- One of 5 fragments for the Silver Bolts, Vibrant Yellow Skill Style. Can be consumed and tracked with the Skill Stylist: Silver Bolts Achievement.
- It can alternatively drop from Exarch Savfyr at the Vampire Feeding Grounds (Blackreach: Greymoor Caverns World Boss).
- Lead: Carved Stone Key (25000 Tel Var)
- One of the leads for the Music Box, Hermit Crab Dance Furnishing.
- It can alternatively drop from the Solstice Daily Quest Coffers (Offered by Lector Volonaro and Morlia in Sunport). Its digsite is located in Solstice.
- Lead: Volenfell Etching Tools(25000 Tel Var)
- One of the leads for Rourken Steamguards Mythic.
- It can alternatively drop from the Guardian Council in Volenfell (Alik'r Desert Group Dungeon Final Boss). Its digsite is located in West Weald.
- Amulet of Oakfather's Retribution (100 000 Tel Var)
- Ring of Oakfather's Retribution (100 000 Tel Var)
- Reactive Necklace (100 000 Tel Var)
- Reactive Ring (100 000 Tel Var)
Maitsukas
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WHY Force Vengeance!!!
WHY are we forced to participate in Vengeance and not have another campaign to play in!?
Welp, looks like BGs/Imp City for a week!
Welp, looks like BGs/Imp City for a week!
ADawg
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Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
Man you guys are embarassing...
"No ONe Is GoInG To PlAy ThIs WHeN GrEy HoSt is HEre AlSo".... then why are you here, crying about something that you believe will not impact you or your game play?
LOL you realise people aren’t necessarily mad that Vengeance exists. They’re mad because the only thing they log onto the game to play keeps getting removed to push this gamemode onto everyone.
And yeh, you might say it’s only a week, you’ll survive but imagine if they removed crafting writs for a week, or the ability to join trials?
So keep your poor attempt at ragebait to TikTok comments please, you’re just embarrassing yourself
Poss
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Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
Not hard to fill when the pop cap is 2 digits.BardokRedSnow wrote: »Your silent majority also filled greyhost the minute it was available
1 bar faction on Vengeance = an entire pop locked faction on GH.
The "silent majority" being mentioned is neither on the forums nor on GH. They were the players once upon a time packing 600+ onto each of multiple different servers during NA prime.
xylena
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