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Re: Extremely Low Midyear Mayhem Turnout, Why?
Because I do not see this as PvP, ESO's PvP is more of a slaughterfest. Personally I just get my tickets and leave as fast as possible. Most players in these PvP modes are not looking for real PvP matches anyways, but for people they can insta-kill/gank.
My guess is there are three main reasons for barely anyone going into PvP:
1: Vengeance. The vengeance tests have shown many players PvP should be fair, and what fair PvP feels like. No longer being able to accept the state of the current PvP.
2: Subclassing/updates: Every time ZOS updates/changes the game, in this case with a major feature like subclassing, players have to keep their builds up to date. PvE players are not going to keep PvP builds up to date all the time, especially not with even more changes coming soon, just to play PvP for a week or two. PvP should be more accessible for everyone and not gearbased.
3: The PvP just isn't fun!
Tickets and I'm out!
My guess is there are three main reasons for barely anyone going into PvP:
1: Vengeance. The vengeance tests have shown many players PvP should be fair, and what fair PvP feels like. No longer being able to accept the state of the current PvP.
2: Subclassing/updates: Every time ZOS updates/changes the game, in this case with a major feature like subclassing, players have to keep their builds up to date. PvE players are not going to keep PvP builds up to date all the time, especially not with even more changes coming soon, just to play PvP for a week or two. PvP should be more accessible for everyone and not gearbased.
3: The PvP just isn't fun!
Tickets and I'm out!
Sarannah
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Re: Extremely Low Midyear Mayhem Turnout, Why?
it was too close to veangeance.
event ticket mount isn't appealing.
Other ticket items are not appealing.
PVP fatigue
Just general event fatigue
ESO fatigue, i need a break in general.
event ticket mount isn't appealing.
Other ticket items are not appealing.
PVP fatigue
Just general event fatigue
ESO fatigue, i need a break in general.
wolfie1.0.
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Re: Overland Content Feedback Thread
The overworld needs more difficulty and before anyone talks about trials and dungeons, that depends on other players. The open world doesn't need it, but without cool mechanics and a decent difficulty, it gets too boring. There's a lack of desire to explore something so easy. Maybe using elemental resistances on enemies is interesting, for example. Well, here's the tip because I kill enemies standing still.
Re: Your Play Experience b/t Update 45 and Update 46 with Subclassing and Scribing In Base Game
Did your ability to play and/or complete certain types of game content improve after the launch of Update 46?
Not significantly. There’s no denying that subclassed builds using the most optimal skill lines now deal far more DPS than builds did pre-U46, so in that sense, yes: things die faster and content can feel a bit easier because of that. But I was already able to complete the content I wanted to before U46, so I wouldn’t say my ability to play has improved meaningfully.
General feedback about my play experience between U45 and U46:
I have two fully leveled characters of every class (except for just one Sorcerer and one Arcanist), and I used to rotate between them pretty frequently. Since subclassing was introduced, though, I’ve barely touched most of my alts. Every time I look at one, I find myself thinking: “Well... I could swap in these two skill lines and increase its DPS by 20%+." But doing that means all my characters end up feeling very similar - and part of the fun, for me, was in their class identity and unique playstyles.
Apparently, I’m also too much of a min-maxer to use a more thematic or "pure" build when I know it’s significantly weaker than an optimized combo with more meta skill lines. So now I’m stuck between playing something underpowered or playing something that doesn’t feel unique anymore.
Other feedback
I do have to say that I was genuinely excited by the idea of having 1000+ unique skill line combinations and the opportunity to experiment with new, creative builds with subclassing. Unfortunately, due to how large the power gap is between the different skill lines, that excitement hasn’t translated into practice.
Therefore, I personally really hope to see some buffs to underused or underwhelming skill lines soon. Shadow, Dark Magic (even with the U47 change) and Draconic Power all feel like they’re lagging behind in terms of usefulness, for example.
For some skill lines, I also think it’d be a great idea to consolidate near-identical morphs to make room for more distinct or creative alternatives in the future. For example, quite a few players seem interested in building a Druid-style DPS character, but the game currently lacks plant-based damaging abilities. Since many of the morphs in the Green Balance line are very similar, it would be awesome if some of those could be reworked into nature-themed DPS skills instead. Not only would that open up new build options, it would also benefit “pure” Warden damage dealers - who currently have an entire class skill line that’s essentially useless for their role.
All in all, I do think subclassing has the potential to increase build diversity and enable a lot of fun, thematic builds. But in its current form - due to balance issues and rigid role-focus in some skill lines - that potential hasn’t entirely been realized yet in my opinion.
Not significantly. There’s no denying that subclassed builds using the most optimal skill lines now deal far more DPS than builds did pre-U46, so in that sense, yes: things die faster and content can feel a bit easier because of that. But I was already able to complete the content I wanted to before U46, so I wouldn’t say my ability to play has improved meaningfully.
General feedback about my play experience between U45 and U46:
I have two fully leveled characters of every class (except for just one Sorcerer and one Arcanist), and I used to rotate between them pretty frequently. Since subclassing was introduced, though, I’ve barely touched most of my alts. Every time I look at one, I find myself thinking: “Well... I could swap in these two skill lines and increase its DPS by 20%+." But doing that means all my characters end up feeling very similar - and part of the fun, for me, was in their class identity and unique playstyles.
Apparently, I’m also too much of a min-maxer to use a more thematic or "pure" build when I know it’s significantly weaker than an optimized combo with more meta skill lines. So now I’m stuck between playing something underpowered or playing something that doesn’t feel unique anymore.
Other feedback
I do have to say that I was genuinely excited by the idea of having 1000+ unique skill line combinations and the opportunity to experiment with new, creative builds with subclassing. Unfortunately, due to how large the power gap is between the different skill lines, that excitement hasn’t translated into practice.
Therefore, I personally really hope to see some buffs to underused or underwhelming skill lines soon. Shadow, Dark Magic (even with the U47 change) and Draconic Power all feel like they’re lagging behind in terms of usefulness, for example.
For some skill lines, I also think it’d be a great idea to consolidate near-identical morphs to make room for more distinct or creative alternatives in the future. For example, quite a few players seem interested in building a Druid-style DPS character, but the game currently lacks plant-based damaging abilities. Since many of the morphs in the Green Balance line are very similar, it would be awesome if some of those could be reworked into nature-themed DPS skills instead. Not only would that open up new build options, it would also benefit “pure” Warden damage dealers - who currently have an entire class skill line that’s essentially useless for their role.
All in all, I do think subclassing has the potential to increase build diversity and enable a lot of fun, thematic builds. But in its current form - due to balance issues and rigid role-focus in some skill lines - that potential hasn’t entirely been realized yet in my opinion.
BasP
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Re: PTS Update 47 - Feedback Thread for Classes & Abilities Changes
Since Grim Focus was mentioned, I thought I'd quickly try a parse with Assassination instead of Dark Magic on my aforementioned pet Sorc setup as well.
Lo and behold, Merciless Resolve hit a lot harder than Crystal Fragments did in my parses.
Truth be told, Grim Focus isn't at the top of my list of skills that need buffs.
Lo and behold, Merciless Resolve hit a lot harder than Crystal Fragments did in my parses.
Truth be told, Grim Focus isn't at the top of my list of skills that need buffs.
BasP
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Re: PTS Update 47 - Feedback Thread for Classes & Abilities Changes
Grim Focus - if this goes live then there's no reason to use this skill. A spammable will give you more damage and you can get major savagery from many, many other sources. Just because you don't like how it's being used by non-NBs, you're ruining a unique, class-defining skill. There are plenty of ways to change this to achieve your ends without killing it. DO BETTER
Smashing X to doubt this claim. The Bowproc is tuned like an ultimate not a spammable.
Re: Extremely Low Midyear Mayhem Turnout, Why?
We had a Golden Pursuit for PvP earlier this month with the Vengeance Campaign which might be a bit of a factor.
I think you'd also find that for some people Vengeance offers a better PvP experience than Mayhem and as such would rather wait for it to come back again rather than spending a bunch of time playing in Mayhem.
I think you'd also find that for some people Vengeance offers a better PvP experience than Mayhem and as such would rather wait for it to come back again rather than spending a bunch of time playing in Mayhem.
Hagmatron's Body Markings & character customization
They're pretty cool as far as body markings go, but as a Khajiit main, this one is totally unenthused. Our fur pattern or lack thereof completely changes the look of Khajiit faces, so I never use body markings.
Likewise it would be really nice if jewelry color did not depend on hair:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/679307/since-qol-features-are-on-the-table-could-we-please-finally-have-separate-hair-jewelry-colors
Face with normal fur pattern
Likewise it would be really nice if jewelry color did not depend on hair:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/679307/since-qol-features-are-on-the-table-could-we-please-finally-have-separate-hair-jewelry-colors
Face with normal fur pattern
MoonPile
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Re: (SORCERER) Could we please keep things simple?
MashmalloMan wrote: »Just move it to Exploitation..
"When you cast a Dark Magic skill, grant Minor Prophecy to you and your allies for 20s. Additionally, you gain 10% Max Stamina or Max Magicka for 20s based on whichever max resource is higher."
Hell, if it was on Exploitation, I'd still consider 10s instead of 20s a win. This cast a Dark Magic skill at full health nonsense in combination with a low duration is the problem. Either do 20s at full health or 10s at any health if Exploitation is somehow too OP in their twisted view.
I'm not sure why they force a triple conditional bonus when you have passives from Arcanist give 284 ws damage for 10s, just for recovering stamina or magicka, when that passively happens every 2s due to mag and Stam recovery lol. A bonus which is arguably much stronger for most builds and requires 0 effort.
Honestly why is it even a duration at all? If you think about it, there could potentially be some overlap situations where you can get both buffs at the same time and I don't think that was the intention. This would mostly only happen to tanks or PvP builds where you're not stacking high resources so they're close, but imagine you have a set bonus on your front bar with Magicka, so your Stamina is higher on back bar. Cast a Dark Magic skill on back bar, get the 10%, go to front, get the 10% when your Magicka set kicks in. Why even produce a situation where this can happen?
I mean it's going form a passive benefit from having a skill slotted on either bar to being a proc condition with stupid conditions. There's really no reason for it not to be a static value or at the very least something very easy like cast a dark magic skill every 10s.