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Re: Your Play Experience b/t Update 45 and Update 46 with Subclassing and Scribing In Base Game
As a PvP player, I can say that the subclasses are the worst thing you've ever done. I've been playing for 9 years, and I've never seen anything worse than the subclasses in this game. Don't you understand what you're doing? Maybe you should learn how to play your own game. PvP was already difficult before the introduction of the subclasses, because you improved the Sorcerer class for PvE, and as a result, it became extremely powerful in PvP, and you didn't do anything about it. Then, you introduced the subclasses, which made the situation even worse. Now, if a player doesn't want to play the sorcerer+nightblade+warden, they'll suffer. You've created a new, even stronger meta in both PvP and PvE. And now, with a high probability, you'll start nerfing classes, killing them even more and burying the possibility of playing a pure class. Well done.
SnakeCrasher
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Re: One shotting in PvP and PvP in general
Most of the fights with the high skill sweatlords are not one GCD though. If you watch their stream it’s 3-4 GCD. In fact they laugh if they one shot someone and comment that their Crit resist must have been zero.
It is interesting to compare this to the streams of Vengeance, where the high skill players complained, even when they were winning100 fights in a row. They complained because their own personal skill levels were capped by the limited builds and options.
Often these short TTK builds are due to proc sets. Now Mechanical Acuity would be a good example . They can build with 12% Crit damage because it goes to 100% with the proc set. Really Rallying cry is also a proc set that also makes many builds possible. Null arca and other proc sets add to the combo damage.
Of course the biggest proc set crutches are still RoA and VD. They can build 45k health with all defensive l blue CP and still do insane damage in the group with essentially unkillable healing and shields. I am much more concerned about the vastly OP group meta than about a high skilled player outplaying me in a few GCD. After all they earned that skill level by hard work and study of the game. The high skilled players as mentioned could still dominate in Vengeance. However you may have noticed that ball groups vanished in Vengeance because they had no advantage. They all reappeared,like a plague, immediately after Vengeance ended.
It is interesting to compare this to the streams of Vengeance, where the high skill players complained, even when they were winning100 fights in a row. They complained because their own personal skill levels were capped by the limited builds and options.
Often these short TTK builds are due to proc sets. Now Mechanical Acuity would be a good example . They can build with 12% Crit damage because it goes to 100% with the proc set. Really Rallying cry is also a proc set that also makes many builds possible. Null arca and other proc sets add to the combo damage.
Of course the biggest proc set crutches are still RoA and VD. They can build 45k health with all defensive l blue CP and still do insane damage in the group with essentially unkillable healing and shields. I am much more concerned about the vastly OP group meta than about a high skilled player outplaying me in a few GCD. After all they earned that skill level by hard work and study of the game. The high skilled players as mentioned could still dominate in Vengeance. However you may have noticed that ball groups vanished in Vengeance because they had no advantage. They all reappeared,like a plague, immediately after Vengeance ended.
Re: DPS makeup of vKA HM runs on ESOlogs, Updates 43-46
Charles plays builds like that in content. Many good players do. Not everyone needs training wheels. Except for the last 3 trials, they were all completed before Fatecarver was a thing.
I play full rotation melee range LA builds in content and it just means I have to pay attention.
Most ESO trial players don't like to pay attention. They like to chat and meme the entire raid. It's the kind of end game community you get when 99.99% of the game is super ezmode.
If one thinks Fatecarver is necessary, they are probably part of its target audience.
It is true that my analysis includes all players who did vKA HM, including the "lazy" ones. Let's look at a different metric then, using Taleria HM, a known single-target fight: https://esologs.com/zone/rankings/16?boss=54
Update 45, 55 of the 100 top dps were non-arcanists, mainly templars: that's a majority of non-arcanists!
Update 46, there are nine.
Now, I know that the creme-de-la-creme players don't post public logs for whatever reason, but you can't seriously tell me that all the top dps players in the public logs were using arcanist because it was "ez mode".
There is more to do re: prevalence of fatecarver specifically, but I need to see if esologs has an API that would make it easier to get the data to crunch the numbers.
M1SHAAN
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I beg you, lower the BG's Spawn timer to 30 Seconds or less
Please for the love of God, this needs to be tweaked. People spend way too much time camping in the spawn. Everyone is just stuck in that match for too long with nothing happening. If at any point someone wants to troll they can just wait out the timer by hiding in a corner completely untouchable. This not only wastes the time of the enemy team but also the teammates who are lying dead waiting for the next round to start (in Death Match). If spawn killing isn't allowed (rightfully so) then spawn camping to this degree should also be culled as much as possible. 30 seconds tops is more than enough time before you get kicked back down into the arena.
ViggyBoi
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Re: More on the Microsoft lay offs, it's grim.
The gaming industry sounds so exhausting. As a consumer it's hard to get excited about anything in it these days. So much of the game experience gets contaminated and is pulled away from the actual games by feeling a company is gutting itself and creating sloppy content and bad decisions. When I'm playing a game and am constantly thinking about the damaging internal/external workings of a company while I play it, that's not a good thing... And I feel like that's a common experience with many large-scale game companies nowadays.
Malyore
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Re: DPS makeup of vKA HM runs on ESOlogs, Updates 43-46
The main issue as I see it is not that fatecarver is too easy or too strong, but that we no longer have multiple viable options that would/could have competed with Fatecarver for differing skill levels, allowing other classes to make a niche for themselves as additional "in-between" options of full weaving builds and Heavy Attack builds, just to different levels of complexity.
Plar (pre-U35) had old Jabs (closest to fatecarver in the mix of supreme AoE + offense + defense, but was melee so more risky than fatecarver)
Sorcerer (pre-2020) had Crystal Blast (still required good weaving and casting it every GCD with no bonus defensive utility, but provided strong ranged AoE option)
Necro (pre-U41) had stalking blast bones (in between the other 2, since it's once per 3 seconds but required doing other things in between casts)
All 3 of these abilities have been either completely removed from the game (Blast and Stalking) or reworked to not only be worse than before, but also significantly worse than fatecarver (new jabs).
This creates the issue where the top tier players who could likely clear trifecta content with no gear equipped remained unaffected by the loss of these abilities, the players who never engage with end-game content remain largely unaffected outside of losing something they enjoyed using/liked the theme of, but the middle-tier player (which would be 90% of those who want to get into end-game content which is most prog groups and most "social" groups that also do the harder content) were left with only 1 option. Fatecarver, whereas if ZOS had not removed those other abilities, these mid-tier players would have multiple options to choose from to work their way up to becoming an end-game player/progressing into the more complex weaving builds via steps, not just 1 giant leap. i.e. there would have been a clear progression path for these players, starting with Oaken heavy attack builds (most forgiving playstyle), moving onto non-oaken HA builds, then onto fatecarver, then moving onto jabs (more risk due to melee and healing instead of shield), then moving onto necro (or sorc) (much more weaving and no defense utility on the spammable but strong ranged AoE that compares to fatecarver for cleave heavy content), then onto a full complex min-max top DPS weaving build.
These clear stepping stones, if they weren't removed, would have also allowed these mid-tier players the option of still participating in end-game content while remaining at any of these stages of "difficulty" (in-case they hit a wall, or simply don't enjoy harder/more complex rotations) because all of these options were/would have still been viable for the cleave heavy content that is being designed today to account for fatecarvers existence.
TL//DR:
We used to have multiple mid-tier options between HA/Fatecarver builds and weaving builds, but the abilities these builds were built around got removed/adjusted over the years and as such, the mid-tier players, that such changes in this game over the years has driven away in droves, feel as though there's nothing in the game for them, outside of fatecarver (which many may not like for different reasons, such as became bored of the playstyle, don't enjoy the playstyle at all, don't like the theme, etc.).
ZOS needs to look into bringing back some of these old/removed abilities that enabled these solid stepping stone builds that allowed players to progress through to end-game without needing to surmount this giant chasm that exists between HA/fatecarver builds and the complex weaving builds with nothing in-between.
Plar (pre-U35) had old Jabs (closest to fatecarver in the mix of supreme AoE + offense + defense, but was melee so more risky than fatecarver)
Sorcerer (pre-2020) had Crystal Blast (still required good weaving and casting it every GCD with no bonus defensive utility, but provided strong ranged AoE option)
Necro (pre-U41) had stalking blast bones (in between the other 2, since it's once per 3 seconds but required doing other things in between casts)
All 3 of these abilities have been either completely removed from the game (Blast and Stalking) or reworked to not only be worse than before, but also significantly worse than fatecarver (new jabs).
This creates the issue where the top tier players who could likely clear trifecta content with no gear equipped remained unaffected by the loss of these abilities, the players who never engage with end-game content remain largely unaffected outside of losing something they enjoyed using/liked the theme of, but the middle-tier player (which would be 90% of those who want to get into end-game content which is most prog groups and most "social" groups that also do the harder content) were left with only 1 option. Fatecarver, whereas if ZOS had not removed those other abilities, these mid-tier players would have multiple options to choose from to work their way up to becoming an end-game player/progressing into the more complex weaving builds via steps, not just 1 giant leap. i.e. there would have been a clear progression path for these players, starting with Oaken heavy attack builds (most forgiving playstyle), moving onto non-oaken HA builds, then onto fatecarver, then moving onto jabs (more risk due to melee and healing instead of shield), then moving onto necro (or sorc) (much more weaving and no defense utility on the spammable but strong ranged AoE that compares to fatecarver for cleave heavy content), then onto a full complex min-max top DPS weaving build.
These clear stepping stones, if they weren't removed, would have also allowed these mid-tier players the option of still participating in end-game content while remaining at any of these stages of "difficulty" (in-case they hit a wall, or simply don't enjoy harder/more complex rotations) because all of these options were/would have still been viable for the cleave heavy content that is being designed today to account for fatecarvers existence.
TL//DR:
We used to have multiple mid-tier options between HA/Fatecarver builds and weaving builds, but the abilities these builds were built around got removed/adjusted over the years and as such, the mid-tier players, that such changes in this game over the years has driven away in droves, feel as though there's nothing in the game for them, outside of fatecarver (which many may not like for different reasons, such as became bored of the playstyle, don't enjoy the playstyle at all, don't like the theme, etc.).
ZOS needs to look into bringing back some of these old/removed abilities that enabled these solid stepping stone builds that allowed players to progress through to end-game without needing to surmount this giant chasm that exists between HA/fatecarver builds and the complex weaving builds with nothing in-between.
Fully decorated Stillwaters Retreat | 700/700 + collectibles
Ahoy hoy my friends! I liked the Stillwaters retreat lot so much that i just had to purchase it and let my imagination roam free.
In my version, the dwarven mechanics and engines beneath the frozen lake are still operational and produce enough heat and steam to keep some parts of the lot unfrozen. That way i can rebuild a fort and a yard on the ruins of once blooming dwarven city.
Hope you like it and are inspired!
In my version, the dwarven mechanics and engines beneath the frozen lake are still operational and produce enough heat and steam to keep some parts of the lot unfrozen. That way i can rebuild a fort and a yard on the ruins of once blooming dwarven city.
Hope you like it and are inspired!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lRCQQ5LGA8
Re: Concerned about the potential use of AI on loading screen artwork
This kind of slapdash reeks of contempt. For the original art, for us as players, for the game. "Good enough. No one's going to notice or care."
We're noticing. We care. Pay a real artist to expand the image. The quality of ESO's art is one of its selling points. If you're cutting corners there, you're not "trimming the fat," you're cutting out the bloody heart.
We're noticing. We care. Pay a real artist to expand the image. The quality of ESO's art is one of its selling points. If you're cutting corners there, you're not "trimming the fat," you're cutting out the bloody heart.
xencthlu
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Re: How necessary are player character backstories to you? (anonymous poll)
Imperative.
I can't make a character without a several month long process of planning, involving a fully-researched backstory of at least 5+ pages. Every character needs to have even the most minute details figured out, from their birthday to their hometown and family, and how they came to be where they are. I want everyone to fit as perfectly into the world as possible, and in a lot of cases that means connecting them to other NPCs in the world as well. I need at least a whole PTS cycle to refine their sliders, their fashions, their sets and skill visuals, and everything else because I can't just start a character.
This also means I will go through the whole levelling process slowly - no grinding, just playing through to get up to level 50 with no CP allotted just like a brand new character. I want to experience the levelling process as organically as I can so I can get a feel for them over time, before they finally hit 50 and I can give them their 'real' setup. I'm actually desperate to do that again since I have another character idea, but I need ZOS to release a new Class first - I like each of my characters to be unique with each other, and a lot of that is that their Class is the foundation of who they are and as such I like having only one character per class.
I actually was on a friend's stream during ESOTenfest specifically to talk about my whole process. I know most people don't consider that they need to start prepping a google doc at least 6 months in advance to take notes as they go through minor lorebooks as a required part of the character creation process, but there is nothing more important to me than how my characters are built and how they fit into the world.
If only I could give them some of the cosmetics I have in my mind though... And yes, each new Class is a new opportunity to bring a new character into the world, so I want to see more Classes sooner rather than later.
I can't make a character without a several month long process of planning, involving a fully-researched backstory of at least 5+ pages. Every character needs to have even the most minute details figured out, from their birthday to their hometown and family, and how they came to be where they are. I want everyone to fit as perfectly into the world as possible, and in a lot of cases that means connecting them to other NPCs in the world as well. I need at least a whole PTS cycle to refine their sliders, their fashions, their sets and skill visuals, and everything else because I can't just start a character.
This also means I will go through the whole levelling process slowly - no grinding, just playing through to get up to level 50 with no CP allotted just like a brand new character. I want to experience the levelling process as organically as I can so I can get a feel for them over time, before they finally hit 50 and I can give them their 'real' setup. I'm actually desperate to do that again since I have another character idea, but I need ZOS to release a new Class first - I like each of my characters to be unique with each other, and a lot of that is that their Class is the foundation of who they are and as such I like having only one character per class.
I actually was on a friend's stream during ESOTenfest specifically to talk about my whole process. I know most people don't consider that they need to start prepping a google doc at least 6 months in advance to take notes as they go through minor lorebooks as a required part of the character creation process, but there is nothing more important to me than how my characters are built and how they fit into the world.
If only I could give them some of the cosmetics I have in my mind though... And yes, each new Class is a new opportunity to bring a new character into the world, so I want to see more Classes sooner rather than later.
Re: Would it be neat to have a Jabberwocky as a creation from Sheogorath
Instead of trying to shoehorn things from other IPs into ESO, why don't we actually try to put things from TES lore into ESO first?
Also can we go one week without having to see that overused ninny and his overly-sanitized brand of "this is the Prince of Madness, but we can't legally have him do anything grittier than 'lol so random'" Seriously, there are other Daedric Princes who have significantly less development that deserve it.
Also can we go one week without having to see that overused ninny and his overly-sanitized brand of "this is the Prince of Madness, but we can't legally have him do anything grittier than 'lol so random'" Seriously, there are other Daedric Princes who have significantly less development that deserve it.
tomofhyrule
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