One thing I liked about the Gold Road quests is that they did reward something more than a set piece I'm only going to desconstruct. Skill styles and I think there were some collectibles as well. Although I also noticed some only rewarded gold.

Agreed about the vendors as well. They only have white gear so why would anybody other than a new player use them except to sell stuff. Put some interesting things there.

So the start of a new month and interested to see what daily rewards we will get. Can I say this is the most underwhelming list of daily rewards yet. Usually there is at least one item a month worth logging in for, but this time nope. Can we at least get a new outfit, furnishing, pet etc etc , something better than what you are offering. Would be interested to know how many players just delete these items as soon as they get them?

In terms of loot, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

Loot can't both easy to get and interesting at the same time. If it is easy to get and everyone has it, it is inherently uninteresting.

Everquest was full of interesting loot because items could be difficult to obtain and/or rare -- with a lot of cause and effect there.

This is why I didn't mind the grind from the 2024 Jubilee for the replica styles. It was fun to have something in ESO that was actually somewhat exclusive for a while. No, I didn't consider grinding dolmen or world bosses to be the pinnacle of gameplay, but I enjoyed the pursuit of something rare.

There are two ways to achieve this outside of expensive Crown Store items. Gate items behind very challenging encounters (like vMA weapons in 2015 and 2016) or low percentage RNG. This community ALWAYS rejects both.

I would love a modern day vMA that is extremely difficult and actually rare rewards. People used to stop to look at vMA weapons when someone had them equipped because they were so rare. But if it were to actually happen, Reddit and the forums would be in meltdown mode.

A continuous supply of new items isn't the answer either because there is a saturation point, and honestly ESO reached the saturation point a long time ago. Every ESO vet has far more rewards than they could possibly ever use.

So we are left with the system we have where they gradually introduce one or two OP sets or really nice cosmetics mixed in with a bunch of underwhelming stuff.

I miss the days when loot didn't completely dominate gameplay. Loot was a huge factor in EQ, but it was a trickle compared to the waterfall it is in ESO. IMO, players are literally addicted to the dopamine rush from loot and achievements and that's why there is almost no gameplay remaining.

MJallday wrote: »

Gigglez wrote: »

Subclassing I can't level up no skill points.
12 or so toons, played 10yrs.
Have all sub class levelled but in order to actually use on most of my toons I don't have enough skill points to subclass.
The double point cost is stopping me from adjusting them.
If you don't adjust you can't compete.
I have 2 that I can use and have been a bit but really pisses me off I can't use the other ten until I replay them for many hours to get skill points. That is really bad desicion.

i have 14 toons on EU. 6 on NA

when they annouced it was going to be double for subclassing, which was basically 6 months ago... i made sure i had enough skill points. it took a couple of weeks, but basically, i replayed zones, killed group bosses , went skyshard hunting.

there was more than enough time to prepare for this. you appear not to have. thats on you.

Not everyone has the same amount of time to play.

I'm still not done with all chars and subclassing. I love the system, great tool for those like me who build thematically and still squeeze out performance. And since PvE is my focus, setting up a PvP Build simply hasn't been the priority. It certainly won't be with the next patch in a few weeks likely altering key skill lines, either.

And I didn't even have to fetch more skill points for most of them. I do agree the double skill points requirement is rather arbitrary.

Coincidence? I don't think so