MidniteOwl1913 wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

How is this brutal? Collect plants is very easy. They're all over the place in Cold harbor city. You don't even need combat. That's base game too.

Two visions only requires the first two cycles. It does not require being able to finish an arc. That's like the difficulty of a public dungeon or delve. It's also base game. The first couple of cycles are designed to be completed by everyone. If the boss you get is too hard just reset.

It just says complete a Black Sacrament. It's not asking for a perfect score. You could literally just pull the place if you wanted. I guess it's dlc but like come on.

You can't expect to get all the endeavors every time if you're excluding massive amounts of content.

All but the plant one are time consuming and at least for me nothing I actually do. I hate Black Sacraments and IA, don't PVP and don't do trials. I will one have one achivement today. It's a first for me.

I'm sorry to ask, but do you even like the game? It's supposed to be a bit time consuming, or do you want to be rewarded for eating a buffood?

The PVP one is fitting since there is a PVP event on, also it was done for me in a couple of minutes. 2 bosses in IA is about the same amount of time. Normal craglorn trial through groupfinder is easy and can be done by my sleeping cat. The same counts for Black Sacraments.

DJfriede wrote: »

~ 40 dollars for a mount.

On sale (which is happening these days) 4.000 crowns are equal to 14 euros if you buy the biggest bundle.

ESO Plus gives "free" crowns.

You can buy crowns for gold from players.

Hardly anyone would end up spending 40 dollars for 4.000 crowns - be honest.

Tracking posts:
https://moonpile.tumblr.com/tagged/solstice treasure maps

Final Report, September 30:
Test concluded, no longer buying maps despite non-completion:
https://moonpile.tumblr.com/post/796136099180396544/solstice-treasure-map-leads-data-sept-30

TOTAL Solstice maps spent ONLY on 2/3+ codex = 105
EMPTY (no leads) = 100
Empty maps in the Lead gap between July 30 & Sept 21 = 76

Last & ONLY 2/3+ codex Leads:
July 28: Geometric Stone-Nest Totem 2/3
July 30: Geometric Stone-Nest Totem 3/3
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September 21: Large Solstice Bismuth Tower 2/3


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Update: September 17:
I have a few Solstice maps left so I decided to use them.
I will not be buying more unless this is fixed. This is stupid.

TOTAL Solstice maps spent ONLY on 2/3 codex = 83
EMPTY (no leads) = 81
Maps since last lead: 66

Last & ONLY 2/3 codex Leads:
July 28: Geometric Stone-Nest Totem 2/3
July 30: Geometric Stone-Nest Totem 3/3

1.5 months and 66 maps with ZERO leads. Is this bugged?

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OP:

Codex & leads:

• ONLY counting the 2/3 codex. See below.
• Only 2 leads so far.
• Only 1 item is unlocked 3/3: Geometric Stone-Nest Totem. This is still the only Totem purchasable after unlocking (for reference: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/677582/antiquities-are-missing-from-their-vendors-for-2-3-years)
• All 6 of the other furnishings that come from Treasure Maps are only 1/3 unlocked.

Maps used:

• Total maps spent JUST on 2/3 codex = 31
• EMPTY (no leads) Solstice maps to date = 29
• Maps since last lead: 14

Gold estimates:

• Approx. (not actual) gold spent ONLY on the 2/3 codex to date, based on TTC avg. prices at this time: 1.4 million
• That's 1.4 million gold to get mostly nothing but decon / vendor garbage.
• The above is not counting 1/3 codex, which is approximately an additional ~ 500,000 - 1,000,000 gold
• I'm posting this primarily for those who are new / returning / not flush / don't want to experiment with millions of gold – This is NOT an accessible system where one might reasonably expect to get something worthwhile. This is an multi-level RNG gold-sink (as were West Weald, Apocrypha, etc. before) and IMO, not fun. If you read my previous post, you'll see the 1/3 codex at least was curated & dropped every ~1-3 maps. Beyond 1/3, it's better to sell maps for now – prices typically fall after a year. Since we can't buy most of the totems, that makes them even less worthwhile.

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ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all,

Wanted to follow up here. The goal is always to provided a balance of more grounded yet cool items and more fun/ fantastical items as well.

We have taken note and shared feedback when some items may push that balance a bit far, like our 4-sword horse friend. (I find this mount fun, but totally understand it can be super jarring.)

However, the item selections are meant to give you the player tools to be creative and have fun. Sometimes player choice will lead to a dancing Molag Bal, as jarring as that can be. But between the Crown Store items, in-game items and in-game event items, there are plenty of choices to make a more grounded experience for yourself and for others if they so choose. Some may go down the route of Sheogorath for a more maddening experience, but they should have the option to do so as well.

All that being said, happy to take any additional feedback to the team for their consideration. Is there a style or kind of cosmetic we have made in the past that you would like us to lean more into?

Thanks for any feedback give here. And please be mindful when submitting feedback that you remember community guidelines.

This is a difficult balance to strike and what one player finds cool/fun, another will find immersion breaking or annoying. I usually prefer aesthetics more grounded in the world of Tamriel (the Nenalata horse is absolutely my favorite apex mount) but have fun at times with effects that should send the guards and/or populace running (my necromancers on their reanimated horses)!

If I were setting the limits, they would be on:

Visual effects — let players ride magical beasts of the most whimsical or fearsome nature, but I’d draw a hard line at having them summoned by tornadoes and meteors as this is just obnoxious to other players. Same with recalls — the Coldharbour recall is kind of terrible, sorry. I mostly tune it out now, but that’s kind of too bad since the sound used to mean something in game.

On that note, cheapening effects and characters — such as the Coldharbour recall and Molag Bal polymorph and mini is something I also would have liked to have seen avoided. Something that is clearly a costume of something is one thing, or if it’s generic like a daedra or dremora, etc., but the main villain?

I realize that what’s been released can’t fairly be taken back, of course, but I hope to see more subtle cosmetics, recalls, skill styles, and personalities too (the Deadlands Firewalker is the bomb and one of the main ones I use besides Brassy Assassin and Tevinter Magister as most of the others look exaggerated or goofy to me).

Kappachi wrote: »

SkaraMinoc wrote: »

My main character, the one I've done all quests on and discovered all points of interest, found all skyshards, learned all crafting, etc. is now obsolete thanks to Subclassing. The builds that I need to stay competitive are no longer possible on my main class, so I must reroll another character and start fresh. Either that or buy skill lines from the crown store and switch characters anytime I need something crafted. You get the idea.

It's also been said before but Subclassing has distilled combat down to maybe 5 skill lines for the serious high-end competitive gameplay.

"oh wow, you're playing XYZ... how original" etc

this is the case in every single game. Stop playing/chasing the meta. You can clear content in this game playing a build you want to play, that's what I've done and what I'll always do... Subclassing makes classes vastly more interesting to me and improves on the build variety the game already offered through its extensive gearing system/other passive trees/etc.

As many people have said, that strategy works wonderfully in a solo game, where you can have fun being the naked "Let Me Solo Her!" through the world.

This strategy falls apart completely when other players are around.

In PvP: What are you supposed to do when someone comes to fight you who is playing the meta? You will lose. And lose again. And again. And again. In PvP, the meta is currently so much more powerful than other builds that you do not have a chance if you're not playing it yourself.
So no, you can't just "don't play meta!" if you want to have any success in PvP.

In PvE: What are you supposed to do when your trial team asks you to do a specific amount of damage? You will not match up to the rest of the team. They'll get frustrated with you. They'll look for someone who does want to play meta to replace you. In PvE, the meta is currently so much more powerful than other builds that you will not measure up if you're not playing it yourself.
So no, you can't just "don't play meta!" if you want to have any success in PvE.

The only game mode you can "just play whatever!" without affecting your gameplay is... overland. Questing. Or running randoms and pretending that everyone is an NPC (which is kinda toxic if you're trying to do a team project with a "I don't care about any of you" attitude).

You know, every time someone comes in with the "you can just play your casual for-fun build even to do high level stuff!" I always ask for the Discord servers where the trial leads are allowing even pureclasses to do trifectas like GH or DB. Oddly enough, nobody ever knows specific groups that allow that, but everyone assures us that they totally exist.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all,

Wanted to follow up here. The goal is always to provided a balance of more grounded yet cool items and more fun/ fantastical items as well.

We have taken note and shared feedback when some items may push that balance a bit far, like our 4-sword horse friend. (I find this mount fun, but totally understand it can be super jarring.)

However, the item selections are meant to give you the player tools to be creative and have fun. Sometimes player choice will lead to a dancing Molag Bal, as jarring as that can be. But between the Crown Store items, in-game items and in-game event items, there are plenty of choices to make a more grounded experience for yourself and for others if they so choose. Some may go down the route of Sheogorath for a more maddening experience, but they should have the option to do so as well.

All that being said, happy to take any additional feedback to the team for their consideration. Is there a style or kind of cosmetic we have made in the past that you would like us to lean more into?

Thanks for any feedback give here. And please be mindful when submitting feedback that you remember community guidelines.

Hey @ZOS_Kevin ,
With all due respect and I truly don’t mean this as any kind of bullying or negative commentary, I just feel the need to be honest here. I apologize in advance if this comes off as too blunt, but I hope you understand the spirit behind it.

I couldn't disagree more. So many people begged for more diverse cosmetics and we got it. People like to express themselves and it's a fantasy world full of magic. Learn to live with others in an MMO instead of being a Comic Book Guy and constantly writing multipage word salad about how your vision for how things ought to be is the correct one.

I'm not sure ZOS could put anything in the crown store that would cause me to FOMO anymore. That well has run dry.

Here are my 2 cents using the newly introduced recall animations as an example:

The sound and visuals of the recall below are entirely too much. Ear-shredding and hard on the eyes.
I don't understand, why you'd choose a shrunken down dolmen with it's original announcement audio file for a portal animation. The only amusing thing about it for me is how it tickles other players Alik'r-PTSD left and right.

"Dark Anchors, also known as Dolmens, are enormous inter-planar hooks sent to Tamriel by Molag Bal from his realm of Coldharbour. The hooks are immense magical constructs, designed to break the boundaries between Oblivion and Mundus; they hook into the ground and the great chains attempt to pull Nirn into Coldharbour. The Anchors are visible from large distances and they affect the environment around them, displacing local weather for a portion of Coldharbour's dark and violent weather."

Turning a world event into a simple player animation makes it non-threatening.



Meanwhile a recall like this one sparks great joy as it doesn't violate my eardrums and feels natural to it's surroundings. It's visuals can also easily be connected to different player figure stereotypes such as druids, hedgemages and alike.
This enables a players creativity. Not a bloody dolmen.:


The middle ground for me, as the animation is still fantastical in it's own way while still matching the visual identity of a portal spell and bonus points because it doesn't force me into using hearing aids. It's a classic portal. Am looking forward for the apocryphal portal to make it's appearance because that one would make just as much sense.