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Re: Where do you think all the Steam users have gone? (Wrong answers only).
Performance is good, beaming is fun, balance is good, there are no game breaking bugs, people do not have login and load screen issues every time after maintenance, subclassing was not a divisive update, the game has enough cool and unique rewards outside of the crown store.
Re: Thoughts on a lore friendly lantern/lamp to light the way....
I appreciate this thread! I looked at the lantern and wondered if you could move around with it and what duration it was. Now that I know you can't move around with it, I can dismiss the idea and stay with Almalexia's lantern. 
A Love Letter To The Past
Hello! I've been running an active Battlegrounds-focused guild on PC/NA for several years. Bit by bit, our community has watched our favorite passtime evolve into something that we like less and less. Here are the main grievances I've seen:
1. The removal of game mode choice. "Deathmatchers" and "Objective players" are now forced into the same games, causing an atmosphere of toxicity and frustration among players who have differing ideas about how to have fun in BG's (we want a Deathmatch queue)
2. Two-team Battlegrounds is a failure. Every match ends up as a spawn camp. Players drop out because the outcome is hopeless, especially since there is no second place to shoot for. Three-teams were way more fun due to the "enemy-of-my-enemy" dynamic. And they were more forgiving for players who found themselves on a weaker team. There was a lot more skill and strategy involved. Often times the "theoretically" weaker team would win by playing smart. Now, Deathmatch outcomes are determined withiin the first 30 seconds, and we're just going through the motions after that (until half the losing team drops out of the game). The thought of 3-team BG's used to excite me and I couldn't wait to log on and spend hours playing match after match. 2-team BG's does not get the same mental reaction and I find myself less and less interested with each game that I play, and my guildmates echo similar sentiments.
3. Subclassing has created a PvP environment in which everyone has the same or similar toolkit. Having different tactics for fighting Nightblades vs DK's vs Sorcs vs Templars etc was a major part of the fun and variety of playing PvP. Now we just build to counter one Everybuild. Not to mention that I don't feel much of a connection with my characters anymore since they're all capable of the same stuff.
With a heavy heart I canceled my ESO+ subscription this morning, as many of my guildmates have already done. I would reinstate my subscription in a heartbeat if we could get: 3-team BG's back, a Deathmatch queue, and a strong incentive for "pure" builds in PvP.
Thanks for the years of enjoyment and hopefully more to come.
Ket
1. The removal of game mode choice. "Deathmatchers" and "Objective players" are now forced into the same games, causing an atmosphere of toxicity and frustration among players who have differing ideas about how to have fun in BG's (we want a Deathmatch queue)
2. Two-team Battlegrounds is a failure. Every match ends up as a spawn camp. Players drop out because the outcome is hopeless, especially since there is no second place to shoot for. Three-teams were way more fun due to the "enemy-of-my-enemy" dynamic. And they were more forgiving for players who found themselves on a weaker team. There was a lot more skill and strategy involved. Often times the "theoretically" weaker team would win by playing smart. Now, Deathmatch outcomes are determined withiin the first 30 seconds, and we're just going through the motions after that (until half the losing team drops out of the game). The thought of 3-team BG's used to excite me and I couldn't wait to log on and spend hours playing match after match. 2-team BG's does not get the same mental reaction and I find myself less and less interested with each game that I play, and my guildmates echo similar sentiments.
3. Subclassing has created a PvP environment in which everyone has the same or similar toolkit. Having different tactics for fighting Nightblades vs DK's vs Sorcs vs Templars etc was a major part of the fun and variety of playing PvP. Now we just build to counter one Everybuild. Not to mention that I don't feel much of a connection with my characters anymore since they're all capable of the same stuff.
With a heavy heart I canceled my ESO+ subscription this morning, as many of my guildmates have already done. I would reinstate my subscription in a heartbeat if we could get: 3-team BG's back, a Deathmatch queue, and a strong incentive for "pure" builds in PvP.
Thanks for the years of enjoyment and hopefully more to come.
Ket
Re: New furnishing plans Abysmal drop rate.
I just got a Praxis: Alinor Bowl, Shallow Limestone from a backpack and a Formula: Murkmire Lamp, Hanging Bottle from an urn in Solstice. Kinda wondering if the loot pool includes all furnishing plans instead of the normal and Solstice ones and that's why the drop rate is so bad.
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Re: Overland Content Feedback Thread
spartaxoxo wrote: »Some players have one sugar cookie they can enjoy and a whole plate of various cookies they are allergic to and cannot enjoy.
Yeah, no. Vets being unable to play it because it's not designed to include them is very different from someone who doesn't enjoy group play. Normal trials and dungeons are already in the game. And many casual users play and enjoy them. They aren't allergic. It's existence does not cause them harm. Some of them don't feel like eating the sugar cookie with blue frosting because they don't like blue. But it's still a cookie baked to the taste of sugar cookie enjoyers.
It's more like I hate peanut butter so I should be the only with a sugar cookie, if we're going to treat the other content as cookies on this plate.
Obviously, I don't mean by using the term "allergic to" in this analogy that I think any part of playing a game actually harms anyone. To clarify, I was just using the metaphor to express that some players can't participate in most of the non-overland content, and that includes so-called "normal" difficulty in dungeons and trials. I won't rehash all the reasons why here as we've been over them in this thread before, but I will amend the analogy as follows: I stipulate that of the people just eating the sugar cookie, some are allergic to the other cookies (can't play the rest), some could eat the other cookies only after seeing a doctor and getting a shot or otherwise preparing and jumping through hoops, and some just don't like the taste of the other cookies just as the people in the second group don't like the taste of the original sugar cookie.
To clarify another point, there are obviously other players I didn't mention in the analogy who like sugar cookies and some of the other cookies but not all of them. This is an analogy. I was simplifying to make a point.
I don't think one group should be the only one with a sugar cookie, but whether or not they get a sugar cookie made to their exact taste is the real question. They already have access to the sugar cookie.
Analogy aside, as I've said before, I don't necessarily mind an optional increased overland difficulty solution if it doesn't affect my game play. I'm not so sure it won't affect me, but we won't know until we hear the details about ZOS's answer to the issue and test it out. I do have concerns about what a reward system that doesn't punish players who opt out of increased difficulty could possibly look like. We'll see, I guess. I do think there should be a story mode in other content as a balance, and I appreciate your support in that.
The whole reason I responded to your initial analogy is because I didn't think it was a fair assessment of the context of the overland difficulty debate. It seems to me the those who object to an increase in overland difficulty are frequently told, in so many words, that they are just selfish and unjust. It's not that simple. I don't think the arguments against increased overland difficulty (or against exceptional rewards for increased overland difficulty, as we already know the increased difficulty itself is coming in some form) are being given a fair shake. They are often just being dismissed out of hand. I was modifying your analogy to point out that there is another way to look at the whole of the situation from the other side and to hopefully dissuade people from just assuming that anyone who objects to overland difficulty is just doing so for selfish or unfair reasons.
Coming from someone who's passionate about fighting for Overland difficulty, I also do not think there should be exceptional rewards. I can't speak for everyone here, but I think extra XP and gold is enough. In fact, I'm just happy with extra gold, I don't care about any other rewards. I also do not think there should be exclusive bonuses that can't be obtained outside of Overland difficulty, such as pets, mounts, skins, personalities, etc. I'm very minimal when it comes to extra rewards. In my opinion, players who choose to not partake in any Overland difficulty should not feel like they're missing out on any prizes.
Re: Reddit AUA (Ask Us Anything) Tuesday, Sept. 9 at 2:00 PM ET/ 18:00 UTC
Turn square corners*—integrity is our guiding light in all we do. ZOS studio head
Integrity refers to having strong moral principles, being honest and trustworthy even when difficult. A person of integrity is consistent in words and actions, fostering trust and respect in personal and professional relationships.
When will the Studio begin to act in alignment with these values?
Integrity refers to having strong moral principles, being honest and trustworthy even when difficult. A person of integrity is consistent in words and actions, fostering trust and respect in personal and professional relationships.
When will the Studio begin to act in alignment with these values?
Re: Subclassing vs Pure class
Sub-classing isn't problematic. It just highlights the power disparity between classes even more. NB, Sorc, Warden, and Templar are all being used in sub-class builds. These 4 classes were also top tier before U46.
The solution is to buff the underperforming classes (which they should have done) so that we don't have to choose from the same 4 classes to have an optimal build
Its not even just that, its people only choosing the highest damage skill lines. Subclassing just drastically divided the trinity of damage/heal/tank. Im sure pve saw the similar split in meta, where pvp saw 95% of people just slot the most efficient damage route. PvP just rarely has tanks or healers, but theory wise they both got much stronger. Damage wise in pvp there are two routes. Go assassination for critchance or go Aedric spear with acuity.
The underlying issue is how out of balance the stat system is.
- Regen and sustain is basically free and too high. Which makes the capacity sustain aspect of max stats useless while letting people stack more efficient output stats.
- Skill scaling and bonuses generally make 1 line of WD/SD worth 50% more than 1 line of Max stat. Furthering the above issue......Except generally 1 line of pen or %dmg will be worth another 40% more damage than WD/SD.
- % sources of damage are too plentiful. Take passives for instance, in one I can get 100-200 WD vs another I can get 10% damage done. Keep in mind a 10% damage done output wise is worth closer to 800 WD. With so many % sources being available and strong, you start to undermine both WD/SD and Max stats.
Running the numbers as far as I can tell, the team at zos is only looking at the inputs and not the outputs. By the time you piece together builds certain inputs become useless or absurdly stronger. No wonder every PvP build runs the base max stam/mag and now even the base WD/SD...... Base sustain........Base health recovery.
Re: Vengeance 4 perk and loadout system livestream announcement
MincMincMinc wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »
Beyond that, this is PvP we are talking about. With ESO’s customization, 2 players can be fully geared out at max level and 1 of those players can literally have double the raw power of the other person. There’s so many situations where one build is simply better than another without any tradeoffs at all.
If someone is serious about fair PvP, why would they put up with that? Truly competitive players or pvpers want to win or lose based on skill, otherwise they’ll quit for more skill based games. The lack of balance and the level at which you can outbuild someone keeps ESO unappealing to many of the people who enjoy PvP games.
Some level of build customization in ESO is fine. With sets and skill lines so wildly out of balance with each other though, it’s become a huge issue, both for accessibility and skill expression.
There’s definitely a vocal group of ESO “pvpers” that must love farming players with builds that can’t compete. If you really deserve to be getting kills, you’ll do just fine on more equal footing.
We clearly have very different ideas of what makes someone good at the game, and that's OK. Fortunately for you, it seems the devs agree with yours and don't agree with mine.
IMO, if someone is serious about PvP, they shouldn't shy away from investing the time and resources to take full advantage of ESO's complex builds. Knowing how to theorycraft and leverage an effective setup is part of what makes someone skilled at the game. If one person is CP 3000 with all stickers learned, tens of millions of gold/AP earned, tens of thousands of raw mats hoarded, and thousands of hours of practice, I don't think it's unreasonable for that to represent a material advantage when they fight a CP 140 who just started the game a month prior. What's wrong with asking a new player to put in some time and effort and earn their power?
If a player is so clever and so "skilled" as you say, then they why do need to crutch on having more resources? The answer is simple. They don't. They just enjoy deleting noobs without fear of ever losing. There is nothing "truly competitive" about that at all. It's more about being indignant that a new player can have the same amount of resources without having to run those dungeons or dig up those leads.
Hard to delete noobs, when they don't even participate anymore lol. Cyro has skewed so far in favor of organized groups that we only see noobs and people learning in bgs. Which we shouldn't even see.....but the MMR system resets and keeps pairing up 10year veteran pvpers against cp160 fresh off the boat players. Even the past MyM events have hardly brought in people to try pvp. I only saw a handful of questers this MyM too when normally there used to be hundreds. Its so bad I can count the number of hatetells with one hand.
To be fair the hard part isnt putting in the work. It takes less than an hour to go pickup RallyingCry and then craft stuhns or orders wrath and be 90% the way there. Most people have some monster set they can fill in and even the basic mythics like markyn or DDF will do fine.
The real hard part is learning all of the tips and tricks that are necessary in pvp, like simple get up and go tricks like needing all impen. Jewels of misrule. Which skillines are efficient like Assassin, animal, stormcalling. Which traits and enchants frontbar and backbar. How to rebind your cc break.
Take a new player without any prior knowledge and toss em into greyhost......how do we seriously expect their pvp experience to be? Its 2025 and we still see people asking how to leave cyrodil from time to time.
I do agree this is more of an issue than the material advantage players accumulate through CP or grinding. In particular the tiny replacement pool of future PvP players to replace those who will eventually leave.
I don;t think that enough players get this. It might be fun to play in an environment that has such a high skill level requirement or having access to powerful things that newer players lack, but it's going to necessarily mean a niche setting where only a dedicated few are going to have fun and play. Perhaps that's ultimately what some folks want, but ESO is a product that requires labor, development, and resources to maintain and improve, and those are not going to be made available if Cyrodiil is a ghost town.
You're absolutely right that most new players joining GH are not going to have the sort of experience to come back, let alone be motivated to do any sort of loop grind. Cyrodiil was not always like this.
Re: The Dragons in the Infinite Archive are too difficult for Arc 2
If you have an assistant, when your companion dies summon an assistant then dismiss them and usually the companion is resummoned alive.
ESO LUXURY FURNITURE ITEMS — 2025/09/13
Call it macabre, but I just adore torture devices. Torture is abhorrent, of course! Even so, we can learn a great deal about a culture by examining their worst impulses. In the case of Daedra, that's practically all their impulses, but still. Fascinating.
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What does the Luxury Furnisher offer this week?
The Luxury Furnisher Vendor (Zanil Theran) is located north of the bank in the Hollow City, Coldharbour and the Belkarth Festival Grounds in Craglorn.
• Cage, Elevated — 2000g
• Daedric Post, Spike — 3000g
• Druidic Cage, Ivy — 8000g
• Iron Cross — 10000g
• Skeletal Remains, Slumped over — 10000g
• Iron Maiden, Chained — 20000g
• Iron Cross, Large — 25000g
• Vampiric Table, Exsanguination — 35000g
• Vampiric Table, Flat Exsanguination — 35000g
• Gibbet, Hanging Hooked — 75000g
• Iron Maiden, Occupied — 100000g
New item:
Cage, Elevated
Enemoriana
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