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Vampirism (NPCs and appearance)
I have both werewolf and vamp toons in games, and I've seen the amazing changes for Werewolf, so just hoping to see some of that love for vamps.
I would love to offer some suggestions for the 'rework' (not using that other word, nope) of the Vampirism skills.
A lot of these are probably already on the list, but it doesn't hurt to put them all in one spot 'just in case'.
Appearance:
Can we PLEASE address the issue of having a skin or 'skill style' to hide vampirism? It's just silly that this is not something we can do in an era where we have multiple skill styles for even the silliest of skills. Let us design our toons the way we want. Not everyone wants to hide behind a polymorph, heavy armor, or a very limited number of skins.
I nearly cried when my new fancy crown crate hairstyle was ash gray and not the pitch black hair that was pictured.
NPCs:
Also, please address the issue with NPC merchants not talking to stage 4 vamps.
NPC merchants can somehow tell we are a vamp, when the guards we stroll by can't?
NPC merchants who are so afraid of us, choose to anger us, instead of serving us so we can leave them alone?
Please either disable this 'feature', or give us a setting to turn this option off. Not everyone has the time to slot a mesmerize skill on their bar just to use a merchant.
Honestly, It's hard enough keeping track of armory builds (which still have a per toon cost and are not global), without having to worry about which skill I removed to slot mesmerize, so I could fix my gear.
Bleed:
Please add bleed damage to the vampire skill lines. So many of the skills reference blood in their name, but we can't make an actual bleed based build because none actually do bleed damage.
Honestly, I can't wait to see what you all pull off. Just hoping some of the above issues are addressed in the process.
I would love to offer some suggestions for the 'rework' (not using that other word, nope) of the Vampirism skills.
A lot of these are probably already on the list, but it doesn't hurt to put them all in one spot 'just in case'.
Appearance:
Can we PLEASE address the issue of having a skin or 'skill style' to hide vampirism? It's just silly that this is not something we can do in an era where we have multiple skill styles for even the silliest of skills. Let us design our toons the way we want. Not everyone wants to hide behind a polymorph, heavy armor, or a very limited number of skins.
I nearly cried when my new fancy crown crate hairstyle was ash gray and not the pitch black hair that was pictured.
NPCs:
Also, please address the issue with NPC merchants not talking to stage 4 vamps.
NPC merchants can somehow tell we are a vamp, when the guards we stroll by can't?
NPC merchants who are so afraid of us, choose to anger us, instead of serving us so we can leave them alone?
Please either disable this 'feature', or give us a setting to turn this option off. Not everyone has the time to slot a mesmerize skill on their bar just to use a merchant.
Honestly, It's hard enough keeping track of armory builds (which still have a per toon cost and are not global), without having to worry about which skill I removed to slot mesmerize, so I could fix my gear.
Bleed:
Please add bleed damage to the vampire skill lines. So many of the skills reference blood in their name, but we can't make an actual bleed based build because none actually do bleed damage.
Honestly, I can't wait to see what you all pull off. Just hoping some of the above issues are addressed in the process.
onyxorb
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
I've never said that? If that's what other people say it's not something I can control - sorry if it bothers you and your friends.
But this is what you said in another thread:
Did you mean "top theorycrafter" as in one of the best or "the best"? Because I understood it as you claiming yourself to be the best theorycrafter.
Shame you didn't screenshot the context to this deleted forum exchange, because I believe it was a tongue in cheek response to a similarily ridiculous statement, just with the "by results" added in since none of you can ever type that.
I hope you also understand the irony of you making this statement after all the elitism on this thread - in the end it's just what you/your friends think of each other, not something backed up by anything competitive.
React, Alchemist, and Pelican have all participated in dueling tournaments on PC NA in the past and individually won a few tourneys. I have also won a 40 million gold tournament in 2021 on my stamsorc vs a stacked pool of competitors when I still did tourneys.
I'm not going to address people not part of this conversation, but you're telling me you've won one tournament... 5 years ago. On NA. Ok, congrats.
Also, what elitism? I've never called anyone bad in the thread lol. I've simply stated 2 things that are objectively valid:
1) Most people are not good enough to play WW to its fullest potential.
Are you? Have you actually played werewolf? Or the people you keep referencing? I played one half the PvP event in January/February, it's actually one of the most difficult playstyles to pull off on Live.
2) Are people qualified enough to provide an unbiased opinion on combat balance?
Are you? You've won one tournament in 2021 and other than that it's just a bunch of friends calling you "the best stamina sorcerer" or whatever.
When it comes to combat balance, you can't just take an opinion of a seasoned PvPer with deep understanding of the game and weigh it the same as someone who barely does PvP or doesn't have that kind of knowledge or mechanics. None of these are elitist by nature, they're just common sense. I don't comment on PvE threads because I'm not a good PvEr. If some guy says Sorc should be nerfed in PvE because it's doing 200k+ DPS and has the evidence to prove it, I'm not going to disagree with him just because I can't personally do 200k DPS.
The problem is that most of the "seasoned PvPers" only play whatever is the strongest build at that moment and have a strong interest in maintaining status quo or seeing other builds and playstyles weakened/unbuffed. Having limited experience playing other builds also means you lack critical insight on how those other playstyles and builds function, where their strengths and weaknesses lie and so on.
People who won a tournament half a decade ago farming squishies in Cyrodiil and telling each other they're the best players ever and everyone else is bad or clueless is precisely the elitism I'm referring to.
Decimus
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Re: What class is the most in need of attention, bug fixes, and buffs right now?
1) See if the community agrees.tomofhyrule wrote: »What is the point of this poll?
2) Please provide sources where devs talk specifically to necromancer mains about the order of the reworks, because I have not seen or heard it. The last time we were talked to directly was a year ago, after they pushed class breaking bugs to live despite us repeatedly telling them not to for EVERY WEEK of the PTS, and then they said they would continue to communicate, but again, its been radio silence for a year (source: surprise surprise blastbones and animate blastbones ulti are unusable in pvp now.
3) Draw attention to the lastest PTS where we were advertised this:
but we are getting this:
4) 2 years is a long time to wait for anything of quality to be given to the only class I play. Just because of poor management of resources and Microslop's pursuit of AI garbage, I'm expected to just sit on the sidelines and wait for another 2 years (mind you we've received near nothing except nerf after nerf, bug after bug, since Necromancer's release in 2019, SEVEN YEARS AGO).
So that's the purpose of the poll, to make a very obvious point, SO AT THE VERY LEAST WE, SPECIFICALLY THE NECROMANCERS, GET SOME KIND OF COMMUNICATION FROM THE DEVS THAT THEY HAVE A PLAN AND THERE'S A GOOD REASON TO FORCING US TO WAIT A TOTAL 9 YEARS TO GET QUALITY CHANGES TO THE NECROMANCER. :-)
Re: What class is the most in need of attention, bug fixes, and buffs right now?
Lol seems pretty clear result
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
I've never said that? If that's what other people say it's not something I can control - sorry if it bothers you and your friends.
But this is what you said in another thread:
Did you mean "top theorycrafter" as in one of the best or "the best"? Because I understood it as you claiming yourself to be the best theorycrafter.I will claim things like dueling tournament wins, win rate/KDR records etc that are verifiable though, because I take great pride in my accomplishments and wish the game had more competition in that sense and more things to compete over, like ranked leaderboards/arenas etc. I don't think I'm alone in that sentiment.
AgreedI hope you also understand the irony of you making this statement after all the elitism on this thread - in the end it's just what you/your friends think of each other, not something backed up by anything competitive.
React, Alchemist, and Pelican have all participated in dueling tournaments on PC NA in the past and individually won a few tourneys. I have also won a 40 million gold tournament in 2021 on my stamsorc vs a stacked pool of competitors when I still did tourneys.
Also, what elitism? I've never called anyone bad in the thread lol. I've simply stated 2 things that are objectively valid:
1) Most people are not good enough to play WW to its fullest potential
2) Are people qualified enough to provide an unbiased opinion on combat balance?
None of these are elitist by nature. I don't comment on PvE threads because I'm not a good PvEr. If some guy says Sorc should be nerfed in PvE because it's doing 200k+ DPS and has the evidence to prove it, I'm not going to disagree with him just because I can't personally do 200k DPS.
All you have is testimony though
. This is the problem anyone that disagrees with you has. You are not able to provide anything meaningful- if I wanted to ‘prove my point’ I can go to PTS with my buddy, tell him to wear the squishiest gear possible on a 70k health build (or some shnap), and sit there while I have Relequen, etc. and pull a parse in a 1v1.You are not qualified because we neither voted you in to represent us nor did you win in anything ZOS-related (ZOS tourney, etc.). Your opinion is as valid as anyone elses- especially those that provide testimony or omit information while passing a parse off as evidence.
Wuuffyy
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
Alright this is getting silly. Why are y’all summoning people like it’s a yugioh battle?
I’m just going to wait for official responses/changes at this point. It’s hard to take this argument seriously!
Another piece of feedback while I’m here; move the extra speed from rampage into the passive (while also increasing the speed cap for werebeasts), then replace it with a snare immunity. Werewolves being terrible against bad terrain doesn’t make much sense to me, you see.
I’m just going to wait for official responses/changes at this point. It’s hard to take this argument seriously!
Another piece of feedback while I’m here; move the extra speed from rampage into the passive (while also increasing the speed cap for werebeasts), then replace it with a snare immunity. Werewolves being terrible against bad terrain doesn’t make much sense to me, you see.
Ataskir
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Re: Werewolf ultimate use
I guess, at a foundational level... what problem is the ultimate cost mechanic trying to solve?
It seems like a solution in search of a problem, TBH.
It obviously is intended for WWs to be able to sustain the form indefinitely. So why don't we just allow them to... do that... without having to jump through all of these artificial hoops?
It seems like a solution in search of a problem, TBH.
It obviously is intended for WWs to be able to sustain the form indefinitely. So why don't we just allow them to... do that... without having to jump through all of these artificial hoops?
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
Werewolf changes are nearly perfect they just need access to weapon passives (devs balance it however you want), but they need that to enhance the versatility of weapon choice, enchant, trait, etc.
Re: Please make Roaring Opportunist Proc from 1 Heavy, not 2
6 people is such an annoying limit in general. Dungeons have 4 people. Trials have 12. Why does the 6 people limit on a pve set even exist?
Re: Sorc pet hate has to stop
birdmann1230 wrote: »Put pets as a world line Conjuration and change Daedric summoning to something else on the sorc. Everyone gets their pets who wants them and the sorc isn’t handicapped by it. I wish for the day my main can run a high dps in content without them instead of beam spamming.
This is the way.
