Afaik this is the first Golden Pursuit that you can't finish completely without forced grouping. I get that ZOS wants to promote grouping with other players, it is an MMORPG after all, but personally these ''tasks'' don't really have that effect on me.

It ends up being just an additional step for completing something that was already a chore to begin with, the only difference now being additional bars in my UI and a ''Hi'', and ''thanks for group'' in the chat when entering/leaving a group. You could even argue that it promotes unhealthy behavior since I actually queued as a ''fake healer''(basically DPS and 2 Hots) because DPS one was taking too long.

If you do all the weekly challenges, the tome caches will never be used, so the caches you get as a ESO+ subscriber are completely worthless.

Additionally, the premium plus reward is only a costume we pay 15€ for, since the 2 additional caches are worthless. Of course, this is a no go. Was is so difficult to add some extra good stuff ?

Finally, converting tome points into gold at the end of the season feels insulting for veteran players, even at 1:10. Many players will learn their lesson when this will be pushed through; there will be far less engagement with the weekly challenges after this.

Also, in the EU we pay in € not in $, which makes the cost for us about 18% higher. As usual.

My understanding is they don't need the servers offline to work on fixing problems, only to upload fixes they've already created.

The way some games do it, which I think ESO does as well is to have several copies of the game. They develop bug fixes or new stuff and load it into an internal test version (which is identical to the actual game, except we don't have access to it) to make sure it's working and correct any problems, then it goes to the public test server for wider bug testing and feedback, and while that's happening they build up a new version of the game with all the updates and bug fixes that are working and are scheduled to go live. Which means the only part that happens during the maintenence downtime is overwriting the previous version with the new one.

So keeping the game offline for longer wouldn't help at all. It might actually delay future bug fixes because during that time they would only have their internal QA to find bugs, not all the players on live.

FurryCandyHearts wrote: »

Bguk wrote: »

FurryCandyHearts wrote: »

Bguk wrote: »

I agree with the option to hide the golden pursuits notification would be nice.

As a temporary solution, couldn't you just take the rewards and never see the popup again once completed? You know this won't be fixed any time soon, and from the words you're typing this is causing great distress.

NO> I DO NOT WANT THEM!

Your third post on this thread prompted a temporary solution to take items you don't want which you can leave to rot in your collections as the notification will remain. Well, you either get the notification or you get the reward currently.

As a side note, make downvotes an option please ZOS.

Stop picking a fight with me. I already plainly said i do not want them and that they are offensive to me. Suggestion i do the very thing thats said in OP is harassment.

It was a temporary solution. Enjoy your day.

tomofhyrule wrote: »

The problem is that you are thinking about this like a gamer from 2010 who only plays one game.

It’s 2026. The landscape of video gaming has changed significantly.

Gaming is no longer a “for fun” thing, it’s a service. If you have a period where you aren’t offering things to do (and get rewarded to do) then you’re going to lose audience to the other competitors who are.

[...]

Modern gaming in 2026 is all about learning to resist manipulation. And that’s a personal thing. You’re not going to get the big companies to stop, but you will be able to train your brain to resist.

You need to qualify that with "for MMOs." Otherwise I agree with your last paragraph.

However, saying that someone who's complaining is thinking like a gamer from 2010 who only plays one game is ludicrous, and "gaming is no longer a "for fun" thing" is crazy. Again, for MMOs maybe.

I'm torn right now about ESO. There are some things on the horizon that sound like they could be enjoyable, like the sage's vault and favours. I also like story content, but I know the upcoming Sheo and thieves guild content aren't going to take months to do. It'll be hours, maybe a couple of days if we're lucky. I mean, people were able to blow through the chapters in less than a week, and that was a zone, delves, WBs, PDs, etc. I also know that I've been excited before about upcoming content, only to discover that (a) it's a grind, or (b) the rewards are pitiful, or (c) the rewards are there, but you have a 0.00000000000000000000001% chance of them dropping. So something that sounded great turns out to be not so great.

So this is what I'm faced with, and I'm struggling with, and I can see some others are too. We've played the game for a while and with chapters and such, there was a balance of things to do that kept us here. Now, it's going to be 90% doing content we've already been doing for years, and 10% new content. And I'm not sure that's going to be enough. So it's crossed my mind to let ESO go at this point. I'm mainly staying around to see the warden rework and to play the small amount of story content that's coming, but after that, I don't know.

It's not easy to let go of something you've invested in and enjoyed for years. It takes time to let it sink in that what you really enjoyed about the game is over, and from here on out, it'll mainly be grinding and old content. So people are allowed to be upset and disappointed. And it's understandable that people are fighting for what used to be. For me, ESO is more habit than anything, and it can be hard to shake a habit.

In terms of gaming is no longer a fun thing, I have no idea why anyone would spend time playing anything they don't find fun in some way. I seriously don't get it. Having someone say, 'Well, gaming isn't for fun anymore so you just have to suck it up and get on with your chores" boggles my mind. Gaming is supposed to be fun, and there are a ton of games that are absolutely fantastically fun. There is no reason to stay with a game that's not fun. None. Zero. Advising people to just suck it up and do something they don't enjoy is insane. Why would anyone do that, rather than using their time to play or do something enjoyable? It would make more sense to tell them to quit. Maybe that's what you meant, and that's sound advice, because if someone isn't enjoying all the hamster wheels, ESO probably isn't a good fit for them anymore.

Anyone who thinks gaming isn't for fun anymore in 2026 needs to broaden their gaming horizons. I'm having a blast (in other games), and yes, I still have some fun in ESO, but I'm getting bored of the same old areas and the same old activities.

No offense, but anyone coming from WoW and complaining about dungeon speedrunning must not have done many dungeons in WoW. The pace there is tank runs as fast as he can and aggroes everything while everyone else tries to keep up. I run dungeons here every day, and I only run into rampant Speed Racer-types about every third or fourth dungeon. I am sorry that you seem to have it happen more often, but there are tools available to you to avoid it like group finder and guilds. Good luck to you, and welcome to the game. The community here is exponentially better than WoW, so I hope you find your place.

Athory wrote: »

Sugram22 wrote: »

like seriously, why add subclass system if its only useful if u combine grave lord, animal companion and Deadrick summoning (for ultimate pet build)? sins passives work only with pure class with class skills slotted

passives need subclass effects other vise subclassing is useless, currently u loose more with subclassing then gain, its low key scam

Simple.
Subclassing should never have been added to the game, at least not in its current form.

• No one asked for it.
• No one expected it.
• And frankly, it doesn’t make any sense.

Ideally, it should be removed entirely. But since that’s unlikely, I just hope ZOS reworks it to the point where it’s no longer worth using, similar to what happened with Oakensoul. It used to be great; now it’s just.... useless.

Please dont make definitive blanket statements that are inherently false. There are players that requested the ability to take skill lines from other classes. There are even valid arguments that explain why it makes more sense than a class based system.

As for expecting it? Thats up for debate too. Plenty of people were expecting it. For me it wasn't that it was coming that was a surprise, it was the lack of effort to balance the class lines before it went live.

So your three major points are refutes with simple responses.

Also, Oakensoul isnt useless. It still has a use case. Just because its not as OP as before doesn't mean it doesn't have power.

And if thats your definition of useless, well have fun chasing the meta every update.

I was surprised that the Golden Pursuit was only for 7 days and that the list of tasks was so short. In the past, there have been more tasks to choose from so most players could find enough tasks they enjoy (or don't mind so much) to complete it. If the GP duration was longer and there were more tasks to choose from, maybe there wouldn't be so many complaints. Also, the tasks didn't seem suited to the timeframe. You don't need to do the 12 dungeons grouped task, but if you want to because you don't like the other options, you'd need to do 2 dungeons a day. They never had that with endeavors or anything else, and that task is on top of weekly and seasonal challenges.

Anyway, it's interesting that ZOS said they'd heard us and understand that we want ESO to feel less like a list of chores we have to complete, so they're changing that.

Newsflash: Yes, they changed it. It's worse now lol. Tomes, big seasonal challenges, GPs, all at the same time.

Hopefully when season 1 lands with some new story content and other features, the game will feel less like a giant chore list and more like a game.

Yes, it's all optional, but most players like to earn shinies and it can be difficult to ignore this type of stuff in a game short of quitting the game altogether, because you're constantly seeing it in the UI. I mean, if there's something you want on page 10 of a tome, you pretty much have to grind for at least a month, maybe more. What fun!