Everyone is making great points. I wonder if anyone is even listening. Would be good to get some... some acknowledgement from zos

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Premise: So, Imperial City is very low population. Only ever a few players wandering around at a time, and none of them venturing near the arena in its namesake district. This makes getting the kill 100 players in the arena achievement nigh on impossible to get. I want to organise a pre-arranged fight, in the arena, with people in one of the guilds I am in. Three teams, one for each alliance, whacking the daylights out of each other - I stress this - not just standing there and dying; because that would be dull. Someone flagged to me that a few years ago people got banned for doing a guild event like this. Having scoured the ToS I can't see why that would be the case, nor can I see any discussions on the forums (though they may be archived) about this.

Question: @ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_GinaBruno Would you please be able to clarify the situation. Would such a pre-arranged fight be a violation/ban action?

I've arranged multiple such gvg fights in the past. I'd be fairly sure its not against TOS to run community events like that. Standing there and just 'wintrading to get the achieves' might be potentially against the TOS but honestly as it doesn't hurt anyone if they took any action for it it feels very questionable (in comparison ap win trading to get emp does hurt other players).

btw the best way to do this is to have the districts setup like this: 1 faction left, 1 faction middle and 1 faction right that way if you have to release it's a quick runback to re-engage in the fight.

Otherwise just fighting inside the IC middle arena is also fun.

ruskiii wrote: »

More on leaving spawn, they could include some simple text explaining the alternate spawn exits, or telling people that if they hold direction while landing out of the spawn theyll do a fake dodgeroll animation that doesnt avoid damage but does prevent you from casting skills, making you a sitting (or rolling) duck.

My reasoning is that the system should be designed such that a new NON eso player could get in their first match and not have to learn endgame pvp tech skills to animation cancel falling animation so they can cast faster before being one shot by a 175% crit damage merciless that tooltips higher than nearly every ultimate in the game. When a more simple solution resides in zos just designing it better from the start. There really isnt a downside to the one way wall idea on its own. Other than it'll be harder to camp the spawn for attackers. Again yes lategame it can be avoided as an issue if we are talking about the daily bg players, but for new players its a monumental issue.

For zos it shouldnt take that long to put in a one way wall asset and drag the spawn assets lower. For the turret concept it could even be done with just an invisible poison wall for the enemy team, mechanically it could be a copy and paste of lava or slaughterfish in the volume.

Moonspawn wrote: »

The only solution I have to these game-breaking problems is to go back to the three-teams format. Can anyone here help me find another?

The three teams were fun, but had their own problems. IMO I see no reason why we cant just have one BG que that throws us into any format of 4v4, 8v8, or 4v4v4. Seems like a waste to delete them entirely.

Endgame most 3 team bgs boiled down to whoever third partied a fight the best.

Objective based game modes like capture the flag were not viable since two teams would be fighting for a minute while the third team just ran the flag 5x to end the game for their daily reward grind. So effectively you waste 40 mins in que to pvp and someone ruins the game in 1-2 mins.

Well said, Minc. It has been months since we were last told they were "looking into" the effects the mmr resets are having on people.

I maintain that the MMR resets are the single biggest issue facing two-team BGs. Almost anything else is a symptom of this baffling decision. We were told that resets were to give everyone a shot at the leaderboard, but that makes no sense, and if anything it does the opposite: making it harder for newer players to get any points while they are instantly deleted.

This applies specifically to your point about needing to update the spawn points too. I dont believe this is necessary at all - good players dont get spawn camped. The 8v8 maps already have two alternative exit points in each spawn but bad players will still group up together right on the edge of the centre point and allow range players to farm them from below. They dont need turrets they need to be matched with people of a similar level.

If they were going to change anything about the spawns they should make the time you can stay in there a maximum of 20 seconds. That would cut down on trolls who waste time by hiding in there for the full 2 minutes, and also help MMR work itself out.

More on leaving spawn, they could include some simple text explaining the alternate spawn exits, or telling people that if they hold direction while landing out of the spawn theyll do a fake dodgeroll animation that doesnt avoid damage but does prevent you from casting skills, making you a sitting (or rolling) duck.

The queues seem to be in a pretty healthy state right now, even group queue has been picking up. The advantage being on comms gives you is so great, if they were to mix the queues they should enable proximity chat to give pugs a chance.

One very simple change they could make which would make everyones experience better is this: move casual queue to the first option. New players/8v8 enjoyers are going into the wrong gamemode because they either didn't look at the option they chose, or because the game reset the option they had picked and defaulted to the first one , it happens all the time. Infuriating for them and the other people on the team who have to carry the game.