So mad I missed it. I didn't know this was a bonus reward until it was too late.

Asikoo wrote: »

And it’s not just about cosmetics. The introduction of subclass systems has only made it clearer that something is off at the core of ESO. The distinct identity that once defined each class has been diluted to the point where it no longer feels like Elder Scrolls game. That sense of immersion and uniqueness is fading. Has the team given up on preserving that identity? Has the creative drive been lost? Because right now, it feels like the soul of ESO is slipping away and many longtime players feel the same.

Subclassing is Elder Scrolls at its roots. Distinct classes are not an Elder Scrolls staple and was simply a byproduct of making an MMO. You could pick classes and types of characters but you weren't bound to those decisions and can learn anything you want in the single player games

I'm not sure immersion is the right word - most of the flashy stuff we are talking about can be reasonably justified to exist within the lore of The Elder Scrolls. A case can be made though that the high incidence of these, by themselves justifiable cosmetics such as Molag Bal illusions, becomes a problem in itself. That's somewhat an emergent problem caused by the community, not ZOS. I myself only use grounded cosmetics, which there are more than enough to chose from (although I've been disappointed with the quality, especially texture quality of new styles and outfits as of late).

But the word I'd rather use is tone. All these ubiquitous carnevalesque (even before the carneval crates) cosmetics, mounts, and effects inevitably change the tone of the game in a way that influences how every other content around it is perceived as well.

When all you see is jesters, everything seems like a joke.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all,

Wanted to follow up here. The goal is always to provided a balance of more grounded yet cool items and more fun/ fantastical items as well.

We have taken note and shared feedback when some items may push that balance a bit far, like our 4-sword horse friend. (I find this mount fun, but totally understand it can be super jarring.)

However, the item selections are meant to give you the player tools to be creative and have fun. Sometimes player choice will lead to a dancing Molag Bal, as jarring as that can be. But between the Crown Store items, in-game items and in-game event items, there are plenty of choices to make a more grounded experience for yourself and for others if they so choose. Some may go down the route of Sheogorath for a more maddening experience, but they should have the option to do so as well.

All that being said, happy to take any additional feedback to the team for their consideration. Is there a style or kind of cosmetic we have made in the past that you would like us to lean more into?

Thanks for any feedback give here. And please be mindful when submitting feedback that you remember community guidelines.

This is a difficult balance to strike and what one player finds cool/fun, another will find immersion breaking or annoying. I usually prefer aesthetics more grounded in the world of Tamriel (the Nenalata horse is absolutely my favorite apex mount) but have fun at times with effects that should send the guards and/or populace running (my necromancers on their reanimated horses)!

If I were setting the limits, they would be on:

Visual effects — let players ride magical beasts of the most whimsical or fearsome nature, but I’d draw a hard line at having them summoned by tornadoes and meteors as this is just obnoxious to other players. Same with recalls — the Coldharbour recall is kind of terrible, sorry. I mostly tune it out now, but that’s kind of too bad since the sound used to mean something in game.

On that note, cheapening effects and characters — such as the Coldharbour recall and Molag Bal polymorph and mini is something I also would have liked to have seen avoided. Something that is clearly a costume of something is one thing, or if it’s generic like a daedra or dremora, etc., but the main villain?

I realize that what’s been released can’t fairly be taken back, of course, but I hope to see more subtle cosmetics, recalls, skill styles, and personalities too (the Deadlands Firewalker is the bomb and one of the main ones I use besides Brassy Assassin and Tevinter Magister as most of the others look exaggerated or goofy to me).

This is seemingly a small thing, but could we please have the option of abandoning the Main Quest? It takes up room (yes, I know, only one slot), the Prophet is a bit pushy, and I really don't want to do the quest over and over because of alts.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Hi all,

Wanted to follow up here. The goal is always to provided a balance of more grounded yet cool items and more fun/ fantastical items as well.

We have taken note and shared feedback when some items may push that balance a bit far, like our 4-sword horse friend. (I find this mount fun, but totally understand it can be super jarring.)

However, the item selections are meant to give you the player tools to be creative and have fun. Sometimes player choice will lead to a dancing Molag Bal, as jarring as that can be. But between the Crown Store items, in-game items and in-game event items, there are plenty of choices to make a more grounded experience for yourself and for others if they so choose. Some may go down the route of Sheogorath for a more maddening experience, but they should have the option to do so as well.

All that being said, happy to take any additional feedback to the team for their consideration. Is there a style or kind of cosmetic we have made in the past that you would like us to lean more into?

Thanks for any feedback give here. And please be mindful when submitting feedback that you remember community guidelines.

Thanks Kevin.

I do enjoy having more grounded things sometimes, but I also sometimes want to have a little fun. I'm really lore-focused though, so I will usually find a way to jump though hoops to explain my more out-there choices
(like how I have pages of researched lore-based backstory on how one of my characters can be a minotaur, as soon as ESO drops a new Class with which I can make a new character...)

But I will say that there does seem to be a dearth of more grounded costumes in the game. It seems we haven't gotten any more "standard fantasy" clothing in ages, and most of what we have is from the basegame with the lower resolution textures. It would be nice to see a few more basic costumes come in like the dress that many female bards have worn since Leyawiin.

I'm also really wanting to see things like Oblivion's Blue Velvet dress, since that's probably the best looking gown in all TES games.
I'm not even opposed to things that are more polymorph-esque. My biggest cosmetic item wish for ESO is a Skill Style for the werewolf transformation that essentially swaps the model of the wolf for a brown werebear the same way that these polymorphs can replace a humanoid model. The animations would be fine, just a different look and maybe different sounds. I'd pay so much for my werebear character to finally look right.

Agreed on the new crown store stuff...but OMG have you guys seen the new theater house?!!!! I am just DYING...Oh how I wish I were able to splurge right now....

Very early in the game before I knew how fun PvP could be I was trying to get the fishing achievement in Imperial City. I died several times and had one person in particular that I came across a several times because he would hide near fishing holes to jump people once they cast a line.
Then this one time I was fishing and an enemy approached so I thought here comes another death. Instead he stopped, looked at me then went on his way. I thought wow that was really nice and then he showed up with two friends and they all jumped me. I wasn't much of a PvP fan when that was going on.
What got me enjoying PvP was gankers that were camping the entrances to Imperial City when you still had to run through Cyrodiil to get to the entrance. A guild mate got jumped a few times and asked for help so they could get into Imperial City. Several of us formed a group (my first PvP group as it turns out) and after getting in decided to run around a while killing things.

Versalium wrote: »

I wonder if the release of Update 47 will go smoothly or it will be a disaster like today or worse.

And, seriously, two months to fix the coin sound (when selling to a merchant) is insane. Can we get more regular minor fixes and not wait for them to be included in the major updates? Serious question.

Unfortunately, fixes are only made during patches or incremental patches. Not during regular maintenance.
I think this is absolutely wrong, because some minor bugs should be fixed every week, given that there are so many. Furthermore, a fix schedule has always been requested, but it has never been implemented. There should be a detailed list of the numerous bugs with a date for their fix.