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Still EU server problems this evening
Long time to change zones, long time to change characters, and sometime you get kicked from server for "unexpected error"...
Me and my husband are experiencing this...
Me and my husband are experiencing this...
Re: Your Play Experience b/t Update 45 and Update 46 with Subclassing and Scribing In Base Game
Did your ability to play and/or complete certain types of game content improve after the launch of Update 46?
If so, prior to the launch of Update 46, what was your character build?
Anyway sub-classing has been awesome thanks for introducing it. Some awkward changes but overall good stuff.
- Playing the same content but having some more fun with more difficult levels of IA, certain dlc world bosses, and clearing dungeons solo faster which is nice. Vet dungeons seem to go faster for sure.
- I'd say the biggest change is I find myself experimenting with a bunch more builds that basically resolve some gameplay and flow issues various classes have
- Also I think its led me to experiment more so im learning more about how to build semi optimized stuff
If so, prior to the launch of Update 46, what was your character build?
- Nightblade -> Messed with Gravelord a bit but I found for NB running another DPS skill line wasn't really needed and it impacted my sustain/mitigation in ways I didn't really want. Main thing is my current NB pure class build game play was already super dynamic and exactly what I wanted. Stamina Dagger Bow build with Rapid Strikes + Poison injection and the built in execute abilities + grim focus. DPS has been totally fine post Update 46 so I never bothered really pursuing to much sub-classing on this one. One or two flex slots below but nothing I am looking to actively solve for with sub-classing at the moment. Gameplays smooth and works well enough for the content I play.
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- Dragon Knight -> Similar to NB the core kit for DK was already coherent for me and worked so well every sub-class adjustment I have tried has felt like I was losing some of the flow that makes Stamina DK dot melee stuff so fun. The sustain changes I had to adjust gear/food/enchants a bit to deal with thats about it. At some point ill continue test out mixing in a proper execute ability with Dawns Wrath but honestly that has kinda screwed up the gameplay flow & dps/def/sustain mix I currently have with DK more than I want to.
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- Sorc -> This ones tough. I have run a Stamina No Pet Dagger + Bow build here to with an emphasis on Bound Armaments and Crystal Fragments. Absolutely was one of my favorite builds pre-patch. Havent played as much lately, I figure just wait until ya'll are done tinkering. I have tried swapping in Assassination but it felt like I was losing something unique from before so I gave up on that kinda quickly.
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- Warden -> This is the first class I really leveraged sub-classing with. Warden Animal Companion and Winters Embrace are awesome and super thematic unique skill lines so I kept those and just added Assassination since Warden has never really had a good finisher. Where i landed is super fun for me works good in most solo content and has some sweet burst dmg. Core of the theme here is still where I want it, I just have some extra functionality and access to executes that were only really accessible via weapons skill lines before.
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- Necro -> One of the classes like arcanist that I think has seen the most gameplay benefit from sub-classing for me but also the most dramatic replacement of Necro abilities. On net I ended up with something I massively enjoy that feels thematic despite the minimal # of necro skills im still using. Grave Lord + Animal Companion + Dawns Wrath has been dope. Pre-patch necro gameplay loop was fun but sorta awkward with Blast Bones. Necro base class has always been a struggle to fit the puzzle pieces together (some good stuff there just really hard to find). Sub-classing has let me swap a bunch of stuff like blastbones out entirely for Deep Fissure delayed burst. Net net...im playing my necro a ton now across content and enjoying the hell out of it. I definitely enjoyed the base class corpsebuster build I had from before and would return to it if the necro class in general sees some quality of life improvements and some dot/morphs that sync better with other skills.
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- Templar -> This is definitely a class I plan to mess with sub-classing on just havent gotten to it yet. Might be that I take the necro build I landed on and simply construct here instead. I did land on a build with Storm Calling and Assisnation that I am for sure enjoying but its not quite settled and ill probably go back to the drawing board over time with this. Templar is the class I am most likely to go full tank on with sub-classing and see what I can do there.
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- Arcanist -> Pre-patch arcanist was honestly the class I played the least since the beam based builds had some of the least fun gameplay of all classes. Just has none of the dynamic active combat flow that the rest of ESO is sorta structured around. After patch though....oh man I was able to basically entirely reconstruct Arcanist into something that is now arguably my favorite build. Switched to Tentacular Dread burst as the core of the build and havent looked back. It is super effective and soooo much more fun than the beam stuff. Settled on Herald of the Tome + Storm Calling + Winters Embrace. The build I had before sub-classing was just not fun. This though....yea entertaining and no more beam! Wish I could post a video for this one's gameplay its great, using the two scribe abilities to build crux cleanly in rotation. Its so fun it makes me tolerate how visually distracting the giant green triangles constantly in the middle of the screen are instead of just being crux symbols or numbers above my skill bar.
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Anyway sub-classing has been awesome thanks for introducing it. Some awkward changes but overall good stuff.
Dino-Jr
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Re: What is there to look forwards to?
I don't know how anyone is shocked by this. They literally said this year would be transitory and that they were going to focus on improving the base game. Of course, the new content wouldn't be as expansive, as they needed to reallocate developers/artists to working on the base game.
They have been updating animations, revitalizing starting zones, fixing long standing bugs that have pilled up over the 10 years, trying to make a new PvP experience that is more akin to the early game Cyrodil PvP before the server was overwhelmed with new systems, proc sets, etc.
And that's all in addition to the new subclassing system, new zone+story, and the writhing wall server-wide event.
I honestly think they've done more this year than the past 5 years, and the foundation they're laying now will make the content to come in the next years even better. You just gotta have some faith in the devs... Even if they make annoying changes to balance from time to time (looking at you Arcanist class mastery script
)...
They have been updating animations, revitalizing starting zones, fixing long standing bugs that have pilled up over the 10 years, trying to make a new PvP experience that is more akin to the early game Cyrodil PvP before the server was overwhelmed with new systems, proc sets, etc.
And that's all in addition to the new subclassing system, new zone+story, and the writhing wall server-wide event.
I honestly think they've done more this year than the past 5 years, and the foundation they're laying now will make the content to come in the next years even better. You just gotta have some faith in the devs... Even if they make annoying changes to balance from time to time (looking at you Arcanist class mastery script
)... 
Re: Could We Change Ghostly Embrace To Hit In Same Location 3 Times Instead Of Moving Forward?
I don't think it's ever been a good skill (although I saw some BG builds using the damage morph this year). Due for a rework--there are definitely other necromancer visuals to use, like the bone spikes that Na'ruzz conjures. Or, it could provide many buffs, or conjure a bone shield.
It seems to fill the role of a CC tank skill, but that's sort of already filled by Bone Totem (which could maybe use a buff in that regard, like an immobilize).
It seems to fill the role of a CC tank skill, but that's sort of already filled by Bone Totem (which could maybe use a buff in that regard, like an immobilize).
Re: PTS Update 47 - Feedback Thread for Classes & Abilities Changes
randconfig wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »Can we change the necromancer hungry scythe to frost damage please? Since its a tank skill, the other morph is not jut physical and all other necro dam is elemental (and disease and frost fit thematically the best
I would also like it to be frost, but also with some kind of bonus effect, like extra damage attacking chilled enemies or something creative...
Yeah, that would definitely be nice as well. I believe Biting Jabs/Puncturing Sweep deals 50%+ more damage and costs 20%+ less than (Hungry) Scythe, so it could definitely benefit from some kind of damage increase. I realize it's a tanking skill stuck in a tanking skill line, but still...
Warden Ice Skillline has dps abilities, no reason Bone Tyrant couldn't also have dps morphs of abilities. Like Ardent Flame Lava Whip deals huge bonus damage to offbalance enemies, costs half, and is a huge heal for Dragon Knights, why can't Necromancer Scythe be somewhat competitive with that. I think it would be nice and an opportunity to add another useful frost spell to ice themed builds arsenal.
Re: I Would Like to Enjoy ESO Again—How to Bring the Magic Back
I think that PvP and PvE need to be completely separated maybe by using an idea similar to how the PTS works. The PTS server can have character data copied to it and then you can access your usual characters on a totally different version of the game.
I would love if this was applied to PvP. They copy all of our data to this PvP server (preferably it would be cross platform too) and it runs a different version of the game with different skill behavior, balancing, and set options. I think they would need a way to keep character data in sync though, which I don't think is currently a thing. It's a pipe dream, but it would be great.
I'm not someone who thinks that ESO needs a bunch of new features to bring the magic back. The magic was lost with combat changes, nerfs, power creep, and poor balancing. If they could just revert some of the worst changes and improve performance I would have no problem playing ESO as is for many more years. Even ESO classic with more modern QoL would keep me happy.
Anyway, I have a lot more ideas especially as it relates to improving PvP, but I'll leave it there.
I would love if this was applied to PvP. They copy all of our data to this PvP server (preferably it would be cross platform too) and it runs a different version of the game with different skill behavior, balancing, and set options. I think they would need a way to keep character data in sync though, which I don't think is currently a thing. It's a pipe dream, but it would be great.
I'm not someone who thinks that ESO needs a bunch of new features to bring the magic back. The magic was lost with combat changes, nerfs, power creep, and poor balancing. If they could just revert some of the worst changes and improve performance I would have no problem playing ESO as is for many more years. Even ESO classic with more modern QoL would keep me happy.
Anyway, I have a lot more ideas especially as it relates to improving PvP, but I'll leave it there.
Stamicka
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Re: Whats going on with marketing as of late?
Typical case of highly motivated intern. ☝️
Re: Herald of the Tome - Remove Fatecarver
I'm actually really glad the Dev's don't actually listen to the majority of feedback on the forums because the majority of the feedback is so short sighted and myopic. The issue with fatecarver isn't actually "fatecarver" but subclassing as a whole. You know what will happen if fatecarver is removed? Everyone will respec to templar and 90% of DPS will be running jabs. Then we'll have to remove Jabs from the game. Within a week 90% of DPS will be running DK and spamming breath, then we'll have to remove breath from the game....
And the cycle will continue until there are only 3 skill lines left in the game....
Except before Necrom not everyone was running Templars, while after Necrom but before subclassing, Arcanist still made up more than 50% of Trial comps. But sure, nothing wrong with fatecarver.
La_Croft
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Re: I Would Like to Enjoy ESO Again—How to Bring the Magic Back
The problem with the last 2 years of ESO is they have been overly catering to new and casual players. What I mean by that is they have introduced things that have turned the game into a bit of a joke. Players complained about it being too hard to get monster sets, so monster sets were nerfed. Players complained about it being too hard to get trials gear, let alone perfected gear, and presto, mythics. Players complained about LA weaving, and voila, the Oakensoul Ring.
Since all of that was not enough for a brand-new player to be able to clear VMA within an hour of buying the game, we were given the Arcanist. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the Arcanist as it allows me to still put out massive damage numbers while being half-asleep. But its not in line with the other classes in any way. Its like putting in the cheat code before playing Contra, to my fellow players who are old enough to remember.
But the complaints kept coming and coming and coming. So now we have subclassing, which has gone exactly as predicted by anyone with enough time in this game. Its not meta-crushing its now created the meta-meta. Just go look at Skinnycheeks' builds.
ESO today is the product of all of these ideas to "diversify" the game and "balance." Its has done the exact opposite. Be careful what you wish for.
Since all of that was not enough for a brand-new player to be able to clear VMA within an hour of buying the game, we were given the Arcanist. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the Arcanist as it allows me to still put out massive damage numbers while being half-asleep. But its not in line with the other classes in any way. Its like putting in the cheat code before playing Contra, to my fellow players who are old enough to remember.
But the complaints kept coming and coming and coming. So now we have subclassing, which has gone exactly as predicted by anyone with enough time in this game. Its not meta-crushing its now created the meta-meta. Just go look at Skinnycheeks' builds.
ESO today is the product of all of these ideas to "diversify" the game and "balance." Its has done the exact opposite. Be careful what you wish for.
El_Borracho
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