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Re: Hard Group Checks in U47 Dungeons
Last night I needed to solo Lep Seclusa (normal) for a screenshot I needed (I might add this was on my Oakensoul non-Subclassed pet sorcerer I use for IA) and it was so fun! I had done it only once before, but at some point, I’m going to have to run it with groups for the skill style locked behind vet achievements, I’m NOT looking forward to that level of difficulty! But I love challenging myself with dungeons on normal. That’s why I’ve always wished they would not have these types of mechanics blocking the way. If the bosses are just too hard for me to get past, that’s one thing, and I could always try to improve my build and try again for the fun of it, or group up.
And sometimes I want to solo dungeons for my Stickerbook, and a lot of times my playtime gets interrupted for various real world reasons, and I would hate to be in a group when that happens and inconvenience them by having to leave suddenly. That’s another big reason I want to try to solo normal dungeons. With me, it’s always about not wanting to inconvenience other players, not worrying about inconveniencing myself. There have been times when I’ve been running a dungeon with a group and my spouse wants me to stop playing and do something, and I always reply, “But I’m doing a group activity!” and this doesn’t make them at all happy so I get to suffer later. 😂
And sometimes I want to solo dungeons for my Stickerbook, and a lot of times my playtime gets interrupted for various real world reasons, and I would hate to be in a group when that happens and inconvenience them by having to leave suddenly. That’s another big reason I want to try to solo normal dungeons. With me, it’s always about not wanting to inconvenience other players, not worrying about inconveniencing myself. There have been times when I’ve been running a dungeon with a group and my spouse wants me to stop playing and do something, and I always reply, “But I’m doing a group activity!” and this doesn’t make them at all happy so I get to suffer later. 😂
Re: More on the Microsoft lay offs, it's grim.
@ZOS_Kevin I really appreciate the fact you wish to keep this thread open and I would ask all posters to be mindful of this and not be unduly antagonistic or argumentative!
I believe most of the people on these forums are here because they actually love ESO, tempers can run high and arguments can happen BUT in this thread we are talking about the people who make and run this game, times are rough for them at the moment and they deserve our respect, for a job well done given the pressures upon them!
I believe most of the people on these forums are here because they actually love ESO, tempers can run high and arguments can happen BUT in this thread we are talking about the people who make and run this game, times are rough for them at the moment and they deserve our respect, for a job well done given the pressures upon them!
Re: Save Error on PS
I have found a workaround for the Save Error problem. But it is going to take a lot of work. This is the process:
PRELIMINARY PROCEDURE
1. Delete all the add-ons you have installed. Really, all of them and don't forget the libraries that me be left behind.
2. Close Elder Scrolls Online (really close it, so if you are in the game, use the PS button (single press) then go in the bar to the game select it and choose close game.
3. Go to the Playstation Settings - Saved Data and Game/App Settings.
4. Select the Upload - Delete option
5. Delete the local saved data from Elder Scrolls Online
6. Go back one page
7. Go to the Automatic upload option
8. If you have auto upload turned on, make sure you disable it for Elder Scrolls Online (if at first you don't see the list, turn auto save fully off and back on, and then you see the list where you can deactivate auto upload on a per game basis)
9. Start Elder Scrolls Online. You will first have to do all kinds of Elder Scrolls Online screen settings as those were also stored in the local save game. (Note, I have noted that if you select your server (NA or EU), it doesn't always take the right one at first, so after selecting that, you can choose it again, so switch to the other server and then back to the one you want)
10. Login with a character and first go to Options and set every base-game setting the way you want it as some settings have been reset due to deleting the save game file.
11. Logout
12. Close Elder Scrolls Online (same as in step 2)
13. Go to Playstation settings - Saved Data and Game/App Settings
14. Go to the Upload - Delete option
15. Now upload the local save game to the Playstation Cloud (overwrite the file that may be already there)
INSTALLING ADD-ONS
1. Start up Elder Scrolls Online
2. In the character selection screen, press triangle for options then go to Add-ons. Install one and only one add-on (it may also automatically install some libraries, but that is okay)
3. Login with a character
4. Change the settings for the just installed add-on the way you want it set-up (if it has settings on a per character basis, you can also do that in one-go or decide to be safe and upload the changed settings after each character if the Save Error did not occur)
5. When you have set the add-on up and so far haven't encountered the save error, Logout Out (this forces the game to save all settings)
6. Wait a few seconds. If the Save Error doesn't show up continue with the next step. If the Save Error did show up, follow the steps below under Save Error Occurred.
7. To be completely sure: close the game, start it again, load a character and check if the settings you made have actually been saved. If not, treat it is if a Save Error has occurred.
8. Fully close the game again (same as before)
9. Go to Playstation settings - Saved Data and Game/App Settings
10. Go to the Upload - Delete option
11. Now upload the local save game to the Playstation Cloud (overwrite the file that is already there)
12. Repeat this from step one of the Installing Add-Ons section for each add-on you want.
SAVE ERROR OCCURRED
1. Uninstalled the last installed add-on(s) where the Save Error occurred after setting it up.
2. Fully close Elder Scrolls Online
3. Go to Playstation settings - Saved Data and Game/App Settings
4. Go the download section
5. Now download the save game from the Playstation Cloud to your local PS5 (overwrite the file that is already there)
6. Now go back with the Installing Add-Ons sections to reinstall the add-on and set it up again.
SOME NOTES
Basically, it all comes down to when everything went fine after installing a new add-on and setting it up, logout to force the game to save the settings in the save game file. If the Save Error does not show up, copy the save game to the cloud as a backup of a situation where the save game file isn't corrupted.
If at a later stage, you make any changes to an add-on or base-game setting and you don't get the Save Error after loggin out, upload the save game file to the cloud.
Every time you do get the Save Game Error, close the game and download the save game file from the cloud, restoring the settings to the situation where the error didn't occur and the save game file is not corrupt. If the Save Game Error occurred after installing a new add-on, first delete that add-on before downloading the save game from the cloud.
I am not sure yet how it will go when the Save Error pops-up after installing an add-on update. Not sure if it is just a matter of downloading the previous save-game file or if if will be necessary to delete the add-on first. I'll let you know if every get into this situation (but I hope not)
I hope this is of some help to everyone who experiences the Save Error.
P.S one additional warning: don't think too soon that everything works fine after installing an add-on and setting it up. I had the bad fortune that the last add-on I installed seemed to not give the error, so I uploaded the save-game file only to discover a few minutes later that it hadn't save the settings after all. So, I inserted a step in the prodedure.
PRELIMINARY PROCEDURE
1. Delete all the add-ons you have installed. Really, all of them and don't forget the libraries that me be left behind.
2. Close Elder Scrolls Online (really close it, so if you are in the game, use the PS button (single press) then go in the bar to the game select it and choose close game.
3. Go to the Playstation Settings - Saved Data and Game/App Settings.
4. Select the Upload - Delete option
5. Delete the local saved data from Elder Scrolls Online
6. Go back one page
7. Go to the Automatic upload option
8. If you have auto upload turned on, make sure you disable it for Elder Scrolls Online (if at first you don't see the list, turn auto save fully off and back on, and then you see the list where you can deactivate auto upload on a per game basis)
9. Start Elder Scrolls Online. You will first have to do all kinds of Elder Scrolls Online screen settings as those were also stored in the local save game. (Note, I have noted that if you select your server (NA or EU), it doesn't always take the right one at first, so after selecting that, you can choose it again, so switch to the other server and then back to the one you want)
10. Login with a character and first go to Options and set every base-game setting the way you want it as some settings have been reset due to deleting the save game file.
11. Logout
12. Close Elder Scrolls Online (same as in step 2)
13. Go to Playstation settings - Saved Data and Game/App Settings
14. Go to the Upload - Delete option
15. Now upload the local save game to the Playstation Cloud (overwrite the file that may be already there)
INSTALLING ADD-ONS
1. Start up Elder Scrolls Online
2. In the character selection screen, press triangle for options then go to Add-ons. Install one and only one add-on (it may also automatically install some libraries, but that is okay)
3. Login with a character
4. Change the settings for the just installed add-on the way you want it set-up (if it has settings on a per character basis, you can also do that in one-go or decide to be safe and upload the changed settings after each character if the Save Error did not occur)
5. When you have set the add-on up and so far haven't encountered the save error, Logout Out (this forces the game to save all settings)
6. Wait a few seconds. If the Save Error doesn't show up continue with the next step. If the Save Error did show up, follow the steps below under Save Error Occurred.
7. To be completely sure: close the game, start it again, load a character and check if the settings you made have actually been saved. If not, treat it is if a Save Error has occurred.
8. Fully close the game again (same as before)
9. Go to Playstation settings - Saved Data and Game/App Settings
10. Go to the Upload - Delete option
11. Now upload the local save game to the Playstation Cloud (overwrite the file that is already there)
12. Repeat this from step one of the Installing Add-Ons section for each add-on you want.
SAVE ERROR OCCURRED
1. Uninstalled the last installed add-on(s) where the Save Error occurred after setting it up.
2. Fully close Elder Scrolls Online
3. Go to Playstation settings - Saved Data and Game/App Settings
4. Go the download section
5. Now download the save game from the Playstation Cloud to your local PS5 (overwrite the file that is already there)
6. Now go back with the Installing Add-Ons sections to reinstall the add-on and set it up again.
SOME NOTES
Basically, it all comes down to when everything went fine after installing a new add-on and setting it up, logout to force the game to save the settings in the save game file. If the Save Error does not show up, copy the save game to the cloud as a backup of a situation where the save game file isn't corrupted.
If at a later stage, you make any changes to an add-on or base-game setting and you don't get the Save Error after loggin out, upload the save game file to the cloud.
Every time you do get the Save Game Error, close the game and download the save game file from the cloud, restoring the settings to the situation where the error didn't occur and the save game file is not corrupt. If the Save Game Error occurred after installing a new add-on, first delete that add-on before downloading the save game from the cloud.
I am not sure yet how it will go when the Save Error pops-up after installing an add-on update. Not sure if it is just a matter of downloading the previous save-game file or if if will be necessary to delete the add-on first. I'll let you know if every get into this situation (but I hope not)
I hope this is of some help to everyone who experiences the Save Error.
P.S one additional warning: don't think too soon that everything works fine after installing an add-on and setting it up. I had the bad fortune that the last add-on I installed seemed to not give the error, so I uploaded the save-game file only to discover a few minutes later that it hadn't save the settings after all. So, I inserted a step in the prodedure.
msetten
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Re: Hello, lightning form? U47 Sorc discussion
Honestly, I think most of the Storm line's skill morphs lack uniqueness.
The difference between Mages' Wrath and Endless Fury is only the effect when executing, and even Endless Fury's conditions are more stringent, and the damage is not higher (considering that its range damage is lower, the single target damage should be increased accordingly).
The difference between Power Surge and Critical Surge is only the way to trigger the treatment.
The difference between Liquid Lightning and Lightning Flood is also not different enough compared to the two morphs of Boneyard.
Power Overload and Energy Overload are also lacking in differences.
Therefore, we usually only see one morph in the Storm line, and the other is almost never used.
In addition, the Storm line also lacks continuous spam skills. No, Mages' Wrath's early damage is very low. Except for stealing kills in PVP, it is not a reasonable spam.
I think the lesser used morphs in the Storm line should be reworked and given new abilities, for example Endless Fury should be designed to be spam, remove the execution, and cause the target to suffer 6% additional Shock Damage, and provide 2bar Major Prophecy & Savagery when inserted.
Critical Surge should cause an additional low Shock Damage to the target when it causes a critical hit, and Power Surge should provide Minor Courage to teammates who are healed by critical hits.
Liquid Lightning and Lightning Flood should improve their poor casting animations and have a higher chance to cause Concussed, and one of the morphs should be suitable for PVP and cause Minor Timidity to the damaged target to punish those who are out of position.
Energy Overload should be changed to: add an additional Shock Damage to each single-target direct damage skill after activation. This will avoid the Light and Heavy Attack damage penalty for wearing the Velothi Ur-Mage's Amulet.
The difference between Mages' Wrath and Endless Fury is only the effect when executing, and even Endless Fury's conditions are more stringent, and the damage is not higher (considering that its range damage is lower, the single target damage should be increased accordingly).
The difference between Power Surge and Critical Surge is only the way to trigger the treatment.
The difference between Liquid Lightning and Lightning Flood is also not different enough compared to the two morphs of Boneyard.
Power Overload and Energy Overload are also lacking in differences.
Therefore, we usually only see one morph in the Storm line, and the other is almost never used.
In addition, the Storm line also lacks continuous spam skills. No, Mages' Wrath's early damage is very low. Except for stealing kills in PVP, it is not a reasonable spam.
I think the lesser used morphs in the Storm line should be reworked and given new abilities, for example Endless Fury should be designed to be spam, remove the execution, and cause the target to suffer 6% additional Shock Damage, and provide 2bar Major Prophecy & Savagery when inserted.
Critical Surge should cause an additional low Shock Damage to the target when it causes a critical hit, and Power Surge should provide Minor Courage to teammates who are healed by critical hits.
Liquid Lightning and Lightning Flood should improve their poor casting animations and have a higher chance to cause Concussed, and one of the morphs should be suitable for PVP and cause Minor Timidity to the damaged target to punish those who are out of position.
Energy Overload should be changed to: add an additional Shock Damage to each single-target direct damage skill after activation. This will avoid the Light and Heavy Attack damage penalty for wearing the Velothi Ur-Mage's Amulet.
Re: Your Play Experience b/t Update 45 and Update 46 with Subclassing and Scribing In Base Game
- Did your ability to play and/or complete certain types of game content improve after the launch of Update 46?
No, it got worse. I am no longer able to "play" in many dungeons, as Arcanist Beams are clearing them before I can get a spell off.
No, it got worse. I am no longer able to "play" in many dungeons, as Arcanist Beams are clearing them before I can get a spell off.
Zoidsberg
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Re: Hello, lightning form? U47 Sorc discussion
MincMincMinc wrote: »madmufffin wrote: »Sorc's getting % more damage for class skills would also be wonderfully broken
The buff was %weapon or spell damage before. Aedric spear already has one passive grant 6% weapon/spell damage and 6% resists. So something like 3% weapon damage per skill assuming 3 skills slotted at most on one bar isn't too crazy
I want all class skills, which would be like 15% lol
Re: Hello, lightning form? U47 Sorc discussion
MashmalloMan wrote: »MincMincMinc wrote: »I thought that was fine aswell, but not anymore with subclassinge because inevitably players will flock to the highest efficiency setups. Which only took a week of pts. Why choose something that is well rounded but not particularly good when you can choose a hyper specific skill line like assassination to perfectly stack crit?
I think it's possible, but they've handled it so poorly so far that I'm not entirely confident they can pull it off.
Eg. Warden's Winter's Embrace has a pretty good 65/35 split. If you wanted to play a Frost mage, you will 100% want to take this skill line, but it still primarily focuses on tanking. The main reason this isn't as popular is because there just isn't enough Frost skills in other subclass lines to make a 3/3 combo that is competitive.
You could say the same about Sorc's Daedric Summoning line. Prior to actually seeing U46, many people who weren't even interested in pets for DPS suddenly started to wonder what an all in pet tamer could look like, using Daedric Prey to subclass into Grave Lord and Animal Companions for Bear, Skele Archer, and Blastbones.
Fast forward to PTS, they completely gut Daerdic Prey to only work on Daedric Pets which not only killed the potential build diversity, it basically made the entire skill line lack any niche focus along with the nerfs to Ward and Magicka scaling. Hell, even with a 2 pet sorc build, you're better off replacing Fury, Frags, and Prey with Merc Focus, Surprise Attack, and Killers Blade. Prey has become useless for its intent as well as subclassing and a pet tamer build like I mentioned is so far behind, it's just role play at that point.
So no, I don't think a skill line needs to be 100% a role, but it certainly should lean in a direction, between 80-65 vs 20-35 split. Since damage dealing is so open ended vs tanking/healing, the smaller part of those ratio's need to fill niches that require combinations with other skill lines to make them really competitive to avoid the skill lines being overpowered. Like the 2 examples above, if Daedric Prey buffed all pets, you wouldn't see every damage dealer take the line like how we see Herald, Aedric, and Assassination because they would need to lean into pets to make it shine... or frost damage..
As it stands, Daedric Summoning and Dark Magic are good at nothing, so they do nothing, they get used by no one. They can either shift some skills around to make the roles more obvious and hope that a healer taking Dark Magic for some reason engages with Crystal Frag... or they can give us a reason to select these mixed lines.
In Sorc's case, I think moving Crystal Frag and Minor Prophecy out is a no brainer. Trying to make 3 damage skill lines work will never happen, even if they aim for the niche scenario's I mentioned, there is just way too much work to do there because there is only 1 damage skill. It's not feasible. 2 lines with one being a pet dd + tanking focus and no pet dd + utility focus makes much more sense to me. Dark Magic is this odd man out.
The gatekeeping of Daedric Curse was so upsetting
