Stamicka wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

Subclassing is literally the only thing that I can remember that actually brought lapsed PvP players back to the game to check out the changes.

Where are these lapsed PvPers though? They weren't involved in Midyear Mayhem. They weren't around before the event either cause the population was also horribly low.

In my experience it's been the opposite. Subclassing solidified decisions to never come back or caused existing players to quit. I have quite a few friends who used to play ESO and not a single one of them had any interest in returning to the game. Some of them quit soon after the launch of One Tamriel because the game became too cheesy... I can't imagine what they would think now.

This is what I am seeing as well. Many of us feel like subclassing was the last gasp of a dying game. All indications are that ZOS isn't bringing in the income it used to either. Though I have to admit, all "evidence" I'm referring to is 100% anecdotal.

PvP was in a much better state before Subclassing. The way this system was implemented goes against the "Play your way" theme they were trying to push. It makes many skill lines completely undesirable in favor of a few over performing lines that the majority of players will use. This causes an even more homogeneous meta than before when half the PvP players were using 2 out of the 7 classes.

I prefer new systems that add to our existing characters. Things like Scribing, Antiquity Mythic gear, and the Psijic Order skill line. Subclassing presents itself this way, but actually just replaces parts of our character instead of adding to it.

While I think the entire system in its current state should be rolled back for the sake of balance and future health of the game I know that won't happen. So instead they need to add more limitations or restructure how Subclassing works. They could make it only skills without the passives, limit it to one skill line at a time instead of two, or actually make it an addition by allowing you to expand on your character with 1 additional skill line to your 3 base class lines.

Maybe it needs something completely different. I believe there could be a way to make Subclassing work, but we're not on that path with the combat team not taking action preferring a wait and see mentality. The Combat and Abilities section of this PTS should be 5x the size that it is, and we should be seeing attempts to raise up the least used skill lines while curbing the over performers to make the percentage of skill line usage as equivalent as possible.

Kappachi wrote: »

PoppaVape wrote: »

LOGIN ERROR
An unexpected internal error has occurred

PCNA--is it really unexpected? There was maintenance today.

it's unexpected because post-maintenance game was running fine, only started having issues within last hour or so... now I wish I didn't get auto-logged off due to being AFK...

It's maintenance day. It's never "unexpected".

randconfig wrote: »

AardvarkMcG wrote: »

Versalium wrote: »

Anyone here who plays other MMOs? Do they have the same server issues as ESO?

Most MMOs experience server issues every now and then but never as many as ZoS and ESO

ESO's server issues are better than all the MMOs I've played in my life, and I've played at least 10 or more. Still it doesn't change the fact that the down time sucks, I really wanted to play ):

I would like to respectfully disagree that in my experience of similar longevity and number ESO has had more server issues than all other games I have played. Our player experiences with MMOs are very different.

No updates yet. The team is still investigating and working on a solution ASAP.

We know this is frustrating, we would rather have you in-game playing as well. However, please remember to follow community guidelines while engaging in the thread. Thank you.

SkaraMinoc wrote: »

Microsoft fired everyone recently except Gina and Kevin. They're in the server room working on a fix but it could take a bit.

Edit: Sarah is logged into the server now fixing as well

Hallelujah, they finally fed the hamster.

MarioMario wrote: »

Sorry I don't work in the legal field, but if anyone could point me in the right direction, I would like to formally ask for compensation. Even better, join other users and do it together.

just go here :
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/

Copy past the EU directive and explain all

Microsoft fired everyone recently except Gina and Kevin. They're in the server room working on a fix but it could take a bit.

Edit: Jessica is logged into the server now fixing as well

Hey all, we've checked in with the team working on this and they are making good progress. We do apologize for the wait and interruption to your playtime. We will provide another update within the next hour.

heranelleb16_ESO wrote: »

Hello,

I’d like to report that I am still unable to connect to the service, even today, August 4th, 2025, following the recent maintenance. A lot of my guild members have the same issue.

This is not an isolated incident — connection issues have occurred repeatedly on the following dates:

June 28, 2025

July 10, 2025 (entire night following maintenance)

July 15, 2025

July 17, 2025

July 19, 2025

July 24, 2025

August 4, 2025 (post-maintenance, currently)

These repeated outages are becoming increasingly frequent and disruptive.

For users residing in Europe, it’s important to note that we are protected under Articles L224-25-1 and following of the French Consumer Code, as well as the European Directive 2019/770 on digital content and services. These laws require that digital services be accessible and conform to the contract under normal conditions. If these obligations are not met, consumers are entitled to request:

A price reduction

A partial refund

Or an equivalent form of compensation

Given the growing number of server outages and the inability to access the service despite paying for ESO Plus, I strongly encourage affected users to submit a formal request for compensation.

Best regards,
Heranelle

Great tip, everyone should do this.