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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
You aren't making sense. If you want to appeal to authority in a given field you appeal to the best in that field, not the jack of all trades, which is... idk like half the players ITT are "good" at both dueling and open world, including me and you.
Why would I appeal to a duelist when my main focus is balance in both Cyro and dueling? Duelists run the most cancerous builds possible that only work in duels. Openworld players run too much defense and don't provide accurate values either. Pelican, React, and Alchemist are some of the best in that "jack of all trades" field, where you build just enough survivability to 1vX but still have enough damage to compete with most builds in a 1v1 setting. If I wanted the best dueling build I would go to Shoyru. When I want opinion on 1vX builds that can still 1v1, I go to the players mentioned above.My turn. I name drop @Decimus. He's right over there, why you still talking to me?
Decimus proclaims himself as "the best theorycrafter in the game". Do you know how absurd that statement is lol? Credibility is given through people's perception of you, not your own self-proclamation. I've often been called "Best Stamsorc PC NA" by many people but I still haven't taken that title myself either because I know a few stamsorcs who are either just as experienced or even better. When you call yourself the best you open yourself up to being memed at.
I've never said that? If that's what other people say it's not something I can control - sorry if it bothers you and your friends.
I will claim things like dueling tournament wins, win rate/KDR records etc that are verifiable though, because I take great pride in my accomplishments and wish the game had more competition in that sense and more things to compete over, like ranked leaderboards/arenas etc. I don't think I'm alone in that sentiment.
I hope you also understand the irony of you making this statement after all the elitism on this thread - in the end it's just what you/your friends think of each other, not something backed up by anything competitive.
Decimus
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Re: Sorc pet hate has to stop
On this episode of Radiate77 is right, we will be going into Core Combat systems for a deep dive…
Tab Targeting has been a part of ESO’s combat system since the beginning, as ESO was designed to be a hybrid Tab Target/Action MMORPG.
Years ago; when Cyrodiil’s population was exploding, the use of Tab Target to mark Templars was essential to winning Alliance fights, as players are oft to exploit their ability to phase between others to mitigate damage.
Tab Targeting allows you to bypass that exploit and focus down your opponent…
As seen in this GIF, your character will quite literally bypass what is in front of you, to attack something else. Be it through an enemy to hit the one behind it, or to attack something you’re not even facing, Tab Targeting solves any issues one might have with targeting for abilities.
Tab Targeting has been a part of ESO’s combat system since the beginning, as ESO was designed to be a hybrid Tab Target/Action MMORPG.
Years ago; when Cyrodiil’s population was exploding, the use of Tab Target to mark Templars was essential to winning Alliance fights, as players are oft to exploit their ability to phase between others to mitigate damage.
Tab Targeting allows you to bypass that exploit and focus down your opponent…
As seen in this GIF, your character will quite literally bypass what is in front of you, to attack something else. Be it through an enemy to hit the one behind it, or to attack something you’re not even facing, Tab Targeting solves any issues one might have with targeting for abilities.
Re: Sorc pet hate has to stop
There is nothing oppressive about fighting a pet build. Tab target your opponent, or kill their twilight and they fall over without the heal.
I also want to note, that this is highly ironic… in another thread you’re pushing for Werewolf not to be nerfed, but it’s okay to come after something performing much less effective.
If anything, they need a buff.
Remove the two-bar limitation, it’s 2026.
Re: Set rebalance ideas themed around Werewolves
QuinnTheWolf wrote: »Salvation:
This is the set that sparked this idea in its entirely, wile 'savage werewolf' was the oil
Stat change on 2, 3 and 4 pieces: (stamina > stamina recovery > stamina)
alter it to something like this:
(2 items) Adds 129 weapon and spell damage
(3 items) Adds 657 Critical rating - OR - 129 Weapon and Spell damage
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon and Spell damage - OR - 1072 Magicka and Stamina (not magicka or stamina, both! because we can now hybridize or use magicka dps as a doggo)
For the 5 piece bonus, it is now completely useless even for new players, this holds no significance.
33% cost reduction worked with the old werewolf because it had a flat ult cost
The weapon and spell damage should be always available.
So i propose this!
(much more furious werewolves with a timer penalty, basicaly be enraged the entire time)
(5 items) Adds 175 weapon and spell damage,
Reduces your maximum Fury to 500, allowing you to enter fury more quickly, but lasts 12.5 OR 15 seconds down from 20 seconds - OR - Reduce the bonus damage gained from fury wilst keeping the 20 seconds duration
You generate a little health every 2 seconds wilst in fury mode - OR - no healing at all and disable health recovery
- OR -
(passive fury generation thats not too powerful compared to the previous idea wilst keeping the set's core identity as letting you stay in werewolf form for much longer)
(5 items)
Adds 175 weapon and spell damage:
When you are in combat wilst in werewolf form, grants you 15 fury 3 seconds
you count as one extra werewolf for the "Call of the Pack" passive.
Berserkers would count as 2 (you being one, the set being one)
and pack leaders would gain full advantage ( 1 per direwolf, 1 for yourself, 1 for the set)
I wouldn't say salvation is worthless now. It definitely helps berserker maintain their forms especially when activating the ultimate at lower amounts, same goes for shapeshifter's chain but that also works for other transformation ultimates as they both reduce the ult cost of staying in form.
I think gain x fury when you use a werewolf ability is a good idea. Or just decrease cost of enrage by 33% (But they need to remove the free casting werewolf abilities during enrage state).
Salvations
(2 items) Adds 129 weapon and spell damage
(3 items) Adds 657 Critical rating
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon and Spell damage
(5 items) Reduce the cost of werewolf transformation and Enrage by 33%
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
@YandereGirlfriend tagging you regardless but honestly,
Is there anything else you would like to share about the Werewolf changes - Suggestion
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/691459/werewolf-class-mastery-suggestion-please-reply-for-visibility#latest
“Keeping this short and simple- trying to get a suggestion out there regarding werewolf and class mastery. This is essentially a spin of another suggestion I saw in the general werewolf feedback thread so feel free to tag whomever for credit.
-Give werewolf its own ‘class mastery’ line (only while transformed so one may benefit from running pure class- even if not for MAXIMUM efficiency it remains viable).
While transformed, you are unfortunately locked out of standard class mastery in this scenario however can access the same on the werewolf-side for werewolf. To avoid further power spikes (until we post something to live to see actual flow), make these class mastery passives on the lower end of power ‘increases’ and/or more flavor or utility oriented.
As a result, we should keep standard class passives (as we always have), and return weapon passives to us (we need the pen and the movement speed is essential when barred completely from a purge/snare removal).
~I’m sure it’s a bit of work but to me this seems like a fair suggestion and we have ~4-5 weeks to make it happen so seems relatively fair there as well (idk, I don’t code so gl out there!)”
-likewise!This isn't the evidence that you think it is.
Is there anything else you would like to share about the Werewolf changes - Suggestion
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/691459/werewolf-class-mastery-suggestion-please-reply-for-visibility#latest
“Keeping this short and simple- trying to get a suggestion out there regarding werewolf and class mastery. This is essentially a spin of another suggestion I saw in the general werewolf feedback thread so feel free to tag whomever for credit.
-Give werewolf its own ‘class mastery’ line (only while transformed so one may benefit from running pure class- even if not for MAXIMUM efficiency it remains viable).
While transformed, you are unfortunately locked out of standard class mastery in this scenario however can access the same on the werewolf-side for werewolf. To avoid further power spikes (until we post something to live to see actual flow), make these class mastery passives on the lower end of power ‘increases’ and/or more flavor or utility oriented.
As a result, we should keep standard class passives (as we always have), and return weapon passives to us (we need the pen and the movement speed is essential when barred completely from a purge/snare removal).
~I’m sure it’s a bit of work but to me this seems like a fair suggestion and we have ~4-5 weeks to make it happen so seems relatively fair there as well (idk, I don’t code so gl out there!)”
Wuuffyy
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
I've never said that? If that's what other people say it's not something I can control - sorry if it bothers you and your friends.
But this is what you said in another thread:
Did you mean "top theorycrafter" as in one of the best or "the best"? Because I understood it as you claiming yourself to be the best theorycrafter.I will claim things like dueling tournament wins, win rate/KDR records etc that are verifiable though, because I take great pride in my accomplishments and wish the game had more competition in that sense and more things to compete over, like ranked leaderboards/arenas etc. I don't think I'm alone in that sentiment.
AgreedI hope you also understand the irony of you making this statement after all the elitism on this thread - in the end it's just what you/your friends think of each other, not something backed up by anything competitive.
React, Alchemist, and Pelican have all participated in dueling tournaments on PC NA in the past and individually won a few tourneys. I have also won a 40 million gold tournament in 2021 on my stamsorc vs a stacked pool of competitors when I still did tourneys.
Also, what elitism? I've never called anyone bad in the thread lol. I've simply stated 2 things that are objectively valid:
1) Most people are not good enough to play WW to its fullest potential
2) Are people qualified enough to provide an unbiased opinion on combat balance?
None of these are elitist by nature. I don't comment on PvE threads because I'm not a good PvEr. If some guy says Sorc should be nerfed in PvE because it's doing 200k+ DPS and has the evidence to prove it, I'm not going to disagree with him just because I can't personally do 200k DPS.
All you have is testimony though
. This is the problem anyone that disagrees with you has. You are not able to provide anything meaningful- if I wanted to ‘prove my point’ I can go to PTS with my buddy, tell him to wear the squishiest gear possible on a 70k health build (or some shnap), and sit there while I have Relequen, etc. and pull a parse in a 1v1.You are not qualified because we neither voted you in to represent us nor did you win in anything ZOS-related (ZOS tourney, etc.). Your opinion is as valid as anyone elses- especially those that provide testimony or omit information while passing a parse off as evidence.
Wuuffyy
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Re: Werewolf Update From The Combat Refresh Team
method__01 wrote: »awfully big for my taste ,also i dont understand why dev spending so much time in a low priority item
when there are game real probs (class UNBALANCE for start)
I like being big and burly thanks.
Re: Fashion Megathread
Updated the outfit to make use of some of the newer releases.
This is absolutely perfect and I might be stealing some things...
Blkadr
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Re: Wisteria's motivation? (Tanlorin's questline, text includes spoilers)
I'm not a fan of a lot of Tanlorin dialogue or their story.
Firstly, I was almost excited for the story, because I thought Tan WAS the traitor. In the first part of the story you find a note from the Ceythalmor that uses Tan's preferred pronouns. Now how in Oblivion would they know what pronouns Tan prefers to use? So I assumed that Tan actually knew them... Sadly not the case... Would have been a better story, with potential for the player to either help Tan betray the Garland Ring or choose to seek redemption and save it.
Next, the whole Garland Ring thing is about helping save Altmer society from corruption and help people? So why does Tan give absolutely no fu**s about the Geysers or anything happening on Summerset. You defeat a gyser and their response is "I'm kinda hungry for fish...". You don't even get any approval points because they don't care...
Lastly, Tan's personality has to be the most annoying out of all the companions. They can't take anything seriously. Even throughout their story they couldn't stop joking around. At least Zerithar knew when things were getting serious, and I felt more of an impact when things happened to him. I don't even have Tan leveled up fully, because their voice lines to almost everything is just... Awful. When you're low on Magicka they shout "Drink a bottle of the blue stuff!" It's called a POTION! Read a book! Oh right, they hate reading! Which does explain a lot...
Firstly, I was almost excited for the story, because I thought Tan WAS the traitor. In the first part of the story you find a note from the Ceythalmor that uses Tan's preferred pronouns. Now how in Oblivion would they know what pronouns Tan prefers to use? So I assumed that Tan actually knew them... Sadly not the case... Would have been a better story, with potential for the player to either help Tan betray the Garland Ring or choose to seek redemption and save it.
Next, the whole Garland Ring thing is about helping save Altmer society from corruption and help people? So why does Tan give absolutely no fu**s about the Geysers or anything happening on Summerset. You defeat a gyser and their response is "I'm kinda hungry for fish...". You don't even get any approval points because they don't care...
Lastly, Tan's personality has to be the most annoying out of all the companions. They can't take anything seriously. Even throughout their story they couldn't stop joking around. At least Zerithar knew when things were getting serious, and I felt more of an impact when things happened to him. I don't even have Tan leveled up fully, because their voice lines to almost everything is just... Awful. When you're low on Magicka they shout "Drink a bottle of the blue stuff!" It's called a POTION! Read a book! Oh right, they hate reading! Which does explain a lot...
Re: Why is Naj-Caldeesh so grossly overtuned in normal?
It's not overtuned. It's just not conducive to the "me first" player mentality that somehow became acceptable behavior in pug groups. Speedrunning and multiple-individuals playstyles simpy aren't as effective.
I kinda like it.
I kinda like it.
DenverRalphy
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