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Re: Subclassing: what are some ways that you use to deal with loss of class identity?
Hi forum friends,
at first I admit I was all against subclassing mainly cos I felt overwhelmed by all the changes I came back to in eso after a break. I play all classes and my alts have their skill lines maxed out so I do feel lucky in that way. However, I now have subclass skilllines on all my alts, I still kept their pure class builds saved on my armory just incase.
What I have found as I level up my subclass skills is that I am losing my character's class identity. There are many times i need to try to remember what class they are.
1. How do you feel about this change?
2. Do you find yourself struggling with your character's class identity after subclassing?
3. If you have embraced subclassing what did you do to still keep your character's class identity
I want to embrace subclassing cos it's here to stay and I have to admit it is fun being able to mix different skills from different classes. I just need some ideas to help me keep moving forward with this subclassing.
I appreciate all your comments and I'm reading each one. Your input on this topic has been phenomenal.
I'm playing another game with good class identity until ESO fixes itself.
Bottom line, it's not your job to invent your own unique and exciting playstyles, it's ZOS's.
Re: Official Discussion Thread for "Crown Store Showcase— September 2025"
really wanted to see cottage house this month
Re: Console Add-On: UnknownFilter
That's not quite accurate, but is a very useful workaround that hadn't occurred to me Thanks!redlink1979 wrote: »I like this add-on, it's very handy, but the filter only lists unknown items properly if I set the price tab from "most expensive to cheapest". I'd like to see this fixed.
If you watch the video, it explains why it seems like it only works that way.
If you do a search, and nothing appears on the first page of the search, because you know everything that is cheap, it won't show the next page. So you need to figure out where to set your bottom price filter to get it to show stuff.
Sorting from most expensive will also fix it, as you've found.
Re: I love that there is so much people playing the game(PC NA)
Renato90085 wrote: »this 2 month hard found any pug
gift free trial motif need quadruple time in newplayer zone
my PB training lastboss pass run no one want
my guild/friend trial run hard found back up member ,because most of them have left
As someone who plays 8-12 hours everyday this 5 year , player lost in my time zone is a clear fact.
this 2 week i only play 111 hour,because nothing can do
but i glad your time zone game still live
Come on, maybe in your time zone, but I also play a that amount of time, as I work from home and some days I just can't but most days I am playing most of the day... and I see a ton of people... what time frame and zone do you play?
UTC+8,I'm Asian. play time is 8~12 hour ,in na time maybe is your 12:00pm~11:00am
the old patch have many player in my play time,but now most like U38 ,a dead zone in anytime
in steam I think lost 5k player in my play time(11K>6K
I mean,when I try gift free item in new player zone every week,but only there 2 patch hard found anyone answer me
You really can't convince me game is fine
but yes,glad your time zone still live
Re: I love that there is so much people playing the game(PC NA)
I play on PS5 NA and honestly….
*Sniff sniff* I can smell your Copium all the way over here..
Accept the inevitable, it has been a fun ride and will be until the final chapter closes.
All I see are the same names in PvP.
Run across the same players in major cities. See the same players selling items at major traders.
Know what players are running in BGs because it’s always the same names.
1 or 2 trial teams on finder only during prime time.
You see the occasional new player here and there in PvE but they don’t stay for long.
I’m ready for the writhing wall to let up and watch sun set on the eastern side.
I’m Ready
*Sniff sniff* I can smell your Copium all the way over here..
Accept the inevitable, it has been a fun ride and will be until the final chapter closes.
All I see are the same names in PvP.
Run across the same players in major cities. See the same players selling items at major traders.
Know what players are running in BGs because it’s always the same names.
1 or 2 trial teams on finder only during prime time.
You see the occasional new player here and there in PvE but they don’t stay for long.
I’m ready for the writhing wall to let up and watch sun set on the eastern side.
I’m Ready
ercknn
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Re: Subclassing: what are some ways that you use to deal with loss of class identity?
Honestly, the ESO classes always felt artificial to me since most of them have no basis in the lore of the earlier games, so there is not really anything being lost in my eyes.
Even within classes, the skill lines are often disjointed and seemingly random in terms of theming, so swapping one or two out for other skill lines that better fit the vibe that you want for your character makes the power fantasy stronger, IMO.
Even within classes, the skill lines are often disjointed and seemingly random in terms of theming, so swapping one or two out for other skill lines that better fit the vibe that you want for your character makes the power fantasy stronger, IMO.
Re: I love that there is so much people playing the game(PC NA)
Warhawke_80 wrote: »It's disheartening to see so many people hoping for this game's failure, perhaps believing that it will hasten the arrival of The Elder Scrolls VI, as if that would resolve all concerns.I personally believe that development for The Elder Scrolls VI may not have progressed significantly yet, possibly with little to no code written so far.
I mean I don’t think people are “hoping” for this games failure. People comment negatively because they think the game can improve and they don’t feel like it does.
As someone who only does PvE trifectas, since the last update where Subclassing hit, I have only logged in a handful of times since because I don’t like what it did to the PvE meta. I understand not everyone has this opinion.
Re: Vengeance test key metric - player interest
ToddIngram wrote: »
The PvP players I know who have left have done so because they think vengeance will become mandated in the future. They recognize there are lots of problems with live PvP, but vengeance is such a hard "Never" for them they just don't care anymore.
How can anyone make that decision when we dont know what vengenace will be - with vengeance 2 it was alreayd not "template" PvP. I expect the final incarnation of what vengeance provides to be a lot closer to current live than the previous tests as they recode elements and bring the functionality back in. If not participating in tests, dont complain about the product that comes out of it - participate and make constructive feedback for ZOS to use in forming the final product. People quitting when something is in development feels like people looking for an excuse to leave, and by leaving when something is in development, they also lose the right to influence.
Those asking for more calculations to be added to the overall server calculation load are ignoring what vengeance has shown to date - removing battlespirit, making skills shorter, limiting the number of players HOTs/DOTs can do is exactly what has made vengeance deal with the massively increased population - reducing the computational load, not increasing it by adding more conditional scenarios, is where we need to go to get a more performant PVP experience.
I've been around long enough to know that "tests" in cyrodiil have never benefited the customer. What makes anyone think vengeance will be any different?
Re: Releasing old hackers back into the game.
SilverBride wrote: »StihlReign wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »How do we know that banned players were allowed back years after their bans?
We're PvPer's.
They TELL us they're back.
That doesn't mean ZoS has a policy to unban players after a few years. Where is ZoS's word on this?
This is probably true; however, I suspect Zos doesn't care. The players come back and change 1 letter in their name. Some have bragged and logged in with 5 or more consecutively named accounts in a matter of days if not hours.
Re: How can we avoid having our human right to our data/privacy violated without deleting our account?
randconfig wrote: »ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »randconfig wrote: »ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »This is the world now, sorry.
Your only chance of fighting this is at the political level, assuming your country even allows for it.
Or I can stop spending $1000s of dollars on ESO every year in response. Either they can make a few extra bucks by compromising our information, while losing the $1000s I would spend on the game, or they can stop violating our rights, and I'll continue to play and spend money.
You'll find every megacorp backed company to have similar data collection policies. Your phone, PC, and increasingly public surveillance are also monetized in a similar way through the same kind of "consent."
Perhaps consider the cabin in the woods approach?
Buy a Google Pixel phone, then delete Google OS and install GrapheneOS.
Uninstall Windows from your PC, install Linux.
Use a virtual machine to run any of these corporations "software" (spyware), that way they have no access to your information.
Don't just give in because so many of them are grossly abusing consumer rights, now more than ever we need civil disobedience and to speak up for our right to privacy, our right to our data.
Careful buddy, otherwise Thought Police gonna knock on your door sooner or later XD
Jokes aside, I'm on your side.
