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Re: Would you want to play with people on other Platforms or in other Regions?
I currently play on both PC servers with the same group of friends. No interest in joining consoles to the mix.
ghastley
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Re: PTS Update 47 - Feedback Thread for Infinite Archive Vision Reroll
Agreeing with everyone else. My best friend and I do IA just about every other day. This is way too expensive for either of us to pay more than once a run, and even then, I don't see myself choosing to spend 500 fortunes for a single reroll before second or third Tho'at. Restarting a run is cheaper.
xencthlu
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Re: Season of the Worm Cult
OP forgot to mention that with all that content in WoW, you also get a 2004 game, visually, mentally, and gameplay-wise.
Besides, as a single-player gamer, I would never play WoW or any other MMO. But I play ESO daily.
ZOS should double down on ESO for single-player gamers, because single-player experience is what makes ESO special. A lot of TES fans are still avoiding ESO like it's a plague. I was one of them until May this year. They're missing out.
But prices..yeah. I do not like the prices.
WoW has become pretty friendly to single players. Their version of delves is designed for single players and individual progression that at the hardest levels rewards high level gear. The game has introduced what they call follower dungeons where you run the dungeon with a group of NPCs and story mode for the final raid boss so you can see the climax without having to do group content. You don't get great rewards but that isn't the intent of individual content which is to allow solo players to see all of the story and content. I think this has been driven somewhat by the realization that more players rather play alone but also by their main competition FFXIV which introduced many of these features into their game first.
I'm not suggesting anyone switch over as there is more to a game than how it handles solo and group players but to say it is stuck in 2004 is being disingenuous.
Re: Season of the Worm Cult
BananaBender wrote: »I'm not expecting ZoS to suddenly double the content they are releasing in each content pass, in fact I would be pretty happy if we got 4 dungeons, a raid, a zone and a new gameplay mechanic + other smaller stuff in each content pass, but the price has to match the amount we get, and to me this just isn't nearly worth 50€. If they know that we are getting less this year, since it's a new model and all, and subclassing is free for all players, why are we getting charged as if it's a whole new game's worth of content, when it's clearly not?
This is the crux of the matter. It's not about what we got (though of course, people are allowed to voice their opinions on it) in terms of the quality of the zone, etc. It's that the pass is overpriced, especially for ESO+ subscribers. And especially since the new feature (subclassing) was base game, so free.
If the price matched the content, there'd be a lot fewer complains. We might be disappointed that we didn't get more content, but nobody would be feeling ripped off.
It wasn't okay to milk players because it's a transitional year. We don't even need to compare what we got in the content pass to another game. We just need to compare it to what we got in previous chapters in ESO to see that the content pass was overpriced.
Next year won't be a transitional year, so that feeble excuse won't work. Hopefully the new people managing the game are hearing loud and clear that we won't be so easily fooled next year, or so easily parted from our money. And hopefully subscribers won't be treated like cash cows.
AzuraFan
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Re: Would you want to play with people on other Platforms or in other Regions?
Khajiit would like to play with anyone.
Re: Vengeance – An Unsustainable False Positive
AngryPenguin wrote: »xylena_lazarow wrote: »Catering to comp groups resulted in a dead game, so now they need to give the casual zergers a win. They're the bulk of the Cyro player base, so that's the only way this turns around, and that's why I'm pro-Vengeance. It's the best chance for the game to survive. I loved the Live build system for years but it's beyond the point of no return, there's no fixing it.AngryPenguin wrote: »vengeance is the "Nobody wins" button.
It isn't the comped groups that killed the Cyodiil population. I think you know that. You've been here for the duration. It was horribly bad performance that killed PvP for most of us. Comped groups, even today, make up less than half the population. Most groups that think they're ball groups aren't. Maybe 30% of the players actually play in a comped ball group, and that's only during prime time on some days. And since when has ZOS catered to anything PvP, let alone ball groups?
I get it. Not everyone is welcome in a group. But that doesn't mean the best business choice going forward is to run off the vast majority of those of us who still play PvP daily or cater to the handful that actually like vengeance. You said yourself you don't play ESO anymore since June, so why keep lobbying for a change you know most of the remaining daily PvP players hate? You're making it seem like a personal thing you have against those of us left that still enjoy the game.
Those of us that still play are still mystified as to why ZOS has made ZERO effort to limit cross healing and shield stacking. It's a much simpler fix than reinventing the wheel....a square wheel in the case of vengeance. Vengeance isn't the only option for the future of Cyodiil. They could always try what almost the entire PvP population has been begging them to try for years.
AngryPenguin wrote: »xylena_lazarow wrote: »Catering to comp groups resulted in a dead game, so now they need to give the casual zergers a win. They're the bulk of the Cyro player base, so that's the only way this turns around, and that's why I'm pro-Vengeance. It's the best chance for the game to survive. I loved the Live build system for years but it's beyond the point of no return, there's no fixing it.AngryPenguin wrote: »vengeance is the "Nobody wins" button.
It isn't the comped groups that killed the Cyodiil population. I think you know that. You've been here for the duration. It was horribly bad performance that killed PvP for most of us. Comped groups, even today, make up less than half the population. Most groups that think they're ball groups aren't. Maybe 30% of the players actually play in a comped ball group, and that's only during prime time on some days. And since when has ZOS catered to anything PvP, let alone ball groups?
I get it. Not everyone is welcome in a group. But that doesn't mean the best business choice going forward is to run off the vast majority of those of us who still play PvP daily or cater to the handful that actually like vengeance. You said yourself you don't play ESO anymore since June, so why keep lobbying for a change you know most of the remaining daily PvP players hate? You're making it seem like a personal thing you have against those of us left that still enjoy the game.
Those of us that still play are still mystified as to why ZOS has made ZERO effort to limit cross healing and shield stacking. It's a much simpler fix than reinventing the wheel....a square wheel in the case of vengeance. Vengeance isn't the only option for the future of Cyodiil. They could always try what almost the entire PvP population has been begging them to try for years.
Comped groups that think they are a ballgroup but aren’t still get much higher stats+healing+shielding than a soloplayer. Even if only 30% of population is ballgroups that is still enaugh to constantly farm the remaining 70% until they quit. While most ballgroup only play some(1-3) days a week there are enaugh ballgroups that they reach 30% of the population not only on some days but nearly every day.
And why are all Vengeanceadvocators not regularly playing buildPvP they oppose irrelevant/assumed to be generally uninterested in PvP and not playing Vengeance for more than a few weeks when most players advocating buildPvP rather quit than play in Vengeance they oppose?
You dismiss Xylena’s opinion for not playing since June but probably wouldnt have played yourself if Vengeance would have stayed.
You claim most PvPers hate Vengeance yet tell every PvPer advocating for it they are PvEr or have to stop advocating for it like they have duty to build PvP playerbase.
Iriidius
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Re: Season of the Worm Cult
scrappy1342 wrote: »Dagoth_Rac wrote: »Did people complain about Necrom and Gold Road like this?
there will be complaints about anything and everything no matter what. i don't personally remember seeing complaints on this scale with necrom, but we were getting about the same amount of content as always. the only difference was that the second zone was put in from the start with the release of the chapter instead of as a dlc halfway through the year, so you are probably right in that there would have been less complaints if they had just done it all at once.
gold road on the other hand... that was the first one that i personally saw massive complaints about lack of content and regrets about buying. but the general consensus at the time was "well this is just this year so they can get caught back up and go back to giving more content." but here we are at the next one and it appears to be even less >.>
the downward spiral in content started when they switched one of the 4 updates to only quality of life and from their it has been a continuous downtrend
is it really that hard to let go of the free to play model ?
You already make us pay for everything meta PvP gear is locked behind $20 dungeon DLCs each. The least you could do is make 4v4 battlegrounds less miserable. i have to wait 5 minutes in queue, after losing twice in a row to the same feeder being thrown back on my team. It’s not their fault, some players only have base game gear, which is fine, but the matchmaking is a joke. It constantly pairs a team with perfect synergy against one with none. It feels rigged, gross, and I don’t have all day, just want to win 1 for the daily lmao you think i do this because bg is awesome? its far from it, if the exp bonus isn't there, id gladly abandon it --- it's like this every day so sick and tired of it, shouldn't have made this mode in the first place if you don't even know basic pvp now most players are suffering from it and YES the majority of the group im paired up with feels the same way win or lose. And I find it funny that you have to wait 28 minutes long for leaving a game , maybe make the game fun? No one wants to play in a match like this. Take some accountability for once
Dock01
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Re: PvP's getting shafted again.
Full factions take Keeps with zero or single digit defenders in Blackreach and Ravenwatch all the time but 200 players attacking a Keep defended by 200 players in Vengeance is PvDoor for you?Permanent Vengeance is the only thing that will save the PvP population. PC NA is down 50% YoY outside of Primetime
And to build off that side convo, yes, implying there's a one-way correlation like that while denying the possibility of the inverse being true is heavily fallacious
Permanent vengeance will end open world after 6 months. It is just pvdoor. No variety. No “skill”. And little different from 200 player light attacking each other.
In last tests as soon as golden pursuits were finished populations started waning.
And for me second test performance was worse than primerime greyhost.
Skill(s) is literally the only thing in Vengeance that matters in fight with equal numbers while in livePvP if your build cant compete you can stop skill casting as it wont save you.
Performance even in pve got terrible a week before the test even started so the performance was just generally *** at that time.
Iriidius
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Re: On a scale of 1-10, what would you give the story of Solstice & why?
colossalvoids wrote: »After getting the last pack as a gift decided to give it a go, but man... Maybe I was just unlucky but my first quests were a "revelry" in a tent and a sloth in a hat ones, I'm not sure I can proceed further as my patience for such things is paper thin now. If they thought that making everything and everyone goofy and dumb is the quirky and modern way of story telling I'll let them be and will be doing something else instead, that's definitely not what I was expecting even with my lower than ground expectations. That might just be two worst examples that I've just stumbled upon randomly but for some reason it makes me think other parts aren't that different. Thought of doing the main quest vanished quite quickly after that.
@colossalvoids
I also disliked those two quests (and the other Sanguine quest in that overland circus in the North-West of the island). I'd say the rest is better than those three, at least.
You might want to give Corelanya Manor a try. Just follow the road leading South from Sunport. The orc sisters that accompany you through the quest were a little annoying (from my personal point of view), but the background story of that quest itself was rather beautiful. I just ignored the sisters' talking, and then, I truly liked that story. It's tragic, it's not that clichéd, the whole story's feel is basically "early 19th century dark romanticist novel". It has a classic literature feel to it.
Syldras
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