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Re: Tone-deaf AUA on Reddit
The recent AUA on Reddit was just terrible. I can't put it any other way. How you can be so blind and defensive to reasonable feedback regarding consumables and sets is just baffling. I want to be constructive and leave it at that.
Just listen to Skinny Cheeks. He is making valid points and is a longtime standing community member and content creator, so he knows what the community is worried about.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=w0BbaObAw_k&t=401s
I am totally against making any adjustments to consumables. Wheeler is right to push back on this and to make a strong case for having this approached in a slower, more constructive manner. If the balance for classes is messed up already and we all know it to be true, then why rush making changes to consumables? It's a bad idea right now and Wheeler has the right of it on this one. The way players are dealing out damage in PvP, a health pot barely covers it. Just barely worth even having tbh. I can only imagine nerfring pots or food any further at this time. *Cringe*
I think you misunderstood the point, Skinny didn't directly ask to adjust consumables on his comment, Wheeler only assumed so since Skinnycheeks mentioned how hybridization wasn't really finished, as he fears the same will happen with subclassing.
When people say hybridization isn't finished, it's mainly due to how weapon/spell damage have pretty much no reason to be separated stats anymore, we've been expecting them to fuse those two and named buffs related into a single damage stat, hence why Wheeler assumed Skinny was talking about consumables, since they're related to this change, though the fact he only specified consumables makes me assume he doesn't really know the logic behind it.
Overall, this change wouldn't really nerf or buff consumables, we'd just fuse Prophecy and Savagery into one, and same for Major Brutality and Sorcery, since every source that provides those buffs will always provide BOTH as if they were one, except consumables for... some reason?
And also, we're not just asking for this right now, we know they have their hands full with subclassing (though they don't seem to know it sometimes), we've been asking for this since hybridization, it's been 3 years.
Morvan
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Re: Tone-deaf AUA on Reddit
Wanted to clear this point up. We posted on the forum that we would be doing an AMA on Reddit, days before the AMA happened. Just to give a heads up that it was happening. So we did not attempt to hide the discussion. We wanted as many people to participate as possible.
The reason we chose to do the AMA on Reddit is because the formatting for threaded discussions is far easier to follow than in our forum threads. We have looked into how we could make the experience better on the forum, but Vanilla Forums (our provider) doesn't support threaded conversations.
Thanks for clearly explaining 'why' it was on a different site than the forums, that was helpful and makes sense.
I know I don't check forums every day , and don't check reddit at all, so I totally missed out on this.
Information seems to randomly be distributed between the forums, twitter, reddit, twitch, and the ESO website.
I'm not sure anyone has the time/energy to check all those sources all the time. Or if they even know about some of these sources.
It really feels that important things like the AMA, surveys and maintenance windows should be displayed in the In Game 'Announcements'.
Is there a reason why they can't use the in game Announcements for stuff other than events and Crown Store sales?
Again, they wouldn't need a full article 'in' the Announcements, but a quick blurb, and a link to find out more info would really be great to have in game so we don't have to keep missing out on things.
onyxorb
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Re: Tone-deaf AUA on Reddit
Before hybridization, there was a "standardization" initiative which changed a bunch of "over time" abilities so they would all align and be consistent.
I think somebody at ZOS a long time ago figured it was better/more foolproof/more efficient/more affordable to balance on a spreadsheet with guidelines, chasing a world where a lot of this could be automated and dev cycles/times would be greatly reduced.
This is something I really started to notice when Gilliam came into the picture. Gilliam's design philosophy seems based around standardized values and rigid rules. We haven't heard from him for awhile and I'm not even sure if he's still with ZOS.
It seems like Brian Wheeler has a similar philosophy and is bound by "rules" that don't actually need to exist.
Stamicka
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Re: Tone-deaf AUA on Reddit
I think you misunderstand what people are asking for. You say not to nerf consumables, which puts you in agreement with what others have been voicing. People are just asking for them to combine the stamina and magicka buffs on consumables in the same way they have for skills. For instance, prophecy and savagery. This was left undone during hybridization. Wheeler is saying that would be impossible, because they would have to nerf consumables across the board. Because the spreadsheet commands it. That is the excuse for just leaving it as is.The recent AUA on Reddit was just terrible. I can't put it any other way. How you can be so blind and defensive to reasonable feedback regarding consumables and sets is just baffling. I want to be constructive and leave it at that.
Just listen to Skinny Cheeks. He is making valid points and is a longtime standing community member and content creator, so he knows what the community is worried about.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=w0BbaObAw_k&t=401s
I am totally against making any adjustments to consumables. Wheeler is right to push back on this and to make a strong case for having this approached in a slower, more constructive manner. If the balance for classes is messed up already and we all know it to be true, then why rush making changes to consumables? It's a bad idea right now and Wheeler has the right of it on this one. The way players are dealing out damage in PvP, a health pot barely covers it. Just barely worth even having tbh. I can only imagine nerfring pots or food any further at this time. *Cringe*
I know there are many different influencers and people saying alot of different things right now but please remember, not all of us play this game to their expectations or their 'level' if you will. I urge restraint, continue moving forward slowly until everyone has their confidence back in what changes you're making, regardless of what anyone else is saying. Cause for some, their Guilds and Ball groups, do not represent anyone else but themselves and the things they want to serve them. Please please, don't forget about the rest of us because playing the game (if you can even call it that) with some of these jokers -for years- has proven they only care about themselves.
As far as ZOS is concerned, while I cannot and would never try to speak for them, I would think it's safe to say the ZOS we're dealing with now is not the same as before. I've gone thru similar 'events' that bring major changes within a company and um... things change. Never expect it to be exactly the same afterwards. Not necessarily for the worst but generally speaking new leadership brings new changes and this is the season for change. My recommendation is to dial back some of the grief and give them time to adjust. Remember, think about how the people who work for ZOS are feeling atm and realize that the communication and the way we thought about things from before is going to be basically starting over with potentially a different team, with different internal structure, with a newer approach. Be grateful they're only taking (1) patch cycle (so far) for catching up with things. Because realistically, it could (and probably should) take longer than that especially with the existing issues.
It's ok to have standards and try to understand things but I think we all need to consider adjusting our expectations. I'm sure ZOS will get back in the saddle when they are ready to move forward. But until then it might actually be better to leave the goal post where it is and give them time to adjust. And that could take a while, it's just how it is and none of us can change that. This horse has a new pair of shoes and a new rider. Slow down speedracers. Dodge City will still be there.
Pevey
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Re: Assistant for survey maps
wolfie1.0. wrote: »Well, based on the update 47 preview. I don't think an assistant is comming anytime soon.
The devs indicated that the unknown surveys not only stack like the unknown master writs. They are tradeable. Which means you can sell them.
But also with this change i will say, that if ZOS does release such an assistant then I wont argue against it being a crown exclusive. As tradeable surveys I feel can balance the difference between those that can or cant afford the assistant.
Tradeable works for me. I'll just sell them off and buy the mats later.
2025 Concept Art?
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/media/category/concept-art/
I enjoy seeing concept art for the game every year and it was consistently updated with every new major content release. It hasn't been updated since 2024 with the Gold Road concept art. Are we getting new concept art this year?
I enjoy seeing concept art for the game every year and it was consistently updated with every new major content release. It hasn't been updated since 2024 with the Gold Road concept art. Are we getting new concept art this year?
Re: Shortcut in Fungal Grotto patched?
I've been hoping they fill the water with Slaughter Fish.
kargen27
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Re: You can rollback a feature of the game. You choose:
None, I actually like all of these. Especially account-wide achievements and subclassing. More freedom and getting closer to single-player TES games is always a plus for me.
Sadras
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Re: You can rollback a feature of the game. You choose:
Another vote against Tales of Tribute. But I'd also take out PvP, including its BG incarnation.
ghastley
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Re: PTS Participation & Experience Survey
Thank you so much for giving us the chance to give feedback on the PTS. I know I’m not the only one who was severely disappointed about how the PTS and feedback from thence was handled this year.
I really hope the devs take our responses to heart. I always want to do my part to make the game better for everyone, even if I’m just a normal guy, not a content creator.
Here’s hoping U49, 50, and beyond and their PTS cycles will give us all a reason to love this game again!
PS: Don’t worry Kevin, we all still love you regardless!
I really hope the devs take our responses to heart. I always want to do my part to make the game better for everyone, even if I’m just a normal guy, not a content creator.
Here’s hoping U49, 50, and beyond and their PTS cycles will give us all a reason to love this game again!
PS: Don’t worry Kevin, we all still love you regardless!
