SkaiFaith wrote: »

Asikoo wrote: »

One of the biggest problems in ESO is exactly this mindset. Too many players think they have to follow whatever setup the meta or esologs shows, and ZOS keeps ignoring how unhealthy that is for the game.

If you want to play a Nightblade, just play it. Enjoy the class and the game itself. Chasing numbers only because “that’s what DPS charts say” is nothing but fake power at the cost of your own fun. That’s why so many players burn out, they stop enjoying the game for what it actually offers and instead just follow whatever DPS addon or parse video is trendy.

I’m honestly glad I stopped putting money into this game, because until ZOS starts encouraging choice instead of funneling everyone into the same cookie-cutter builds, the community will keep repeating the same cycle.


EDIT:
I saw someone say this about D4 to Blizzard: "Why don’t you just let the game die? You’ve completely lost the essence of D4."

Well, I feel the same;
ZoS, Can you stop with all the nonsense you’ve created around the Elder Scrolls just to squeeze out maximum profit? If you truly don’t care about the spirit of the game anymore, then just let it die, close the servers. The Elder Scrolls deserves far better than this.

I don't know, man... I tend to blame the players - if someone wants to forever chase the META that's on him...

Maybe bad take on my part but it's just my opinion.

I am so tired of hearing this "hot take." It basically belongs in the same bin as "oh, you have a stomachache? Well, that's your fault since you could drink arsenic and then your stomachache would go away really fast!" It's one of those 'fixes' that doesn't really solve any problems at all.

Look, this is not TES6. This is an MMO. That means other people are around. And that means that if you're doing endgame PvP or PvE, you cannot go into the way you want to play and expect to have any success without acknowledging the meta. Because either way, if you're coming in with something non-meta, you will be facing others who do have the meta, and you will be compared to them.

Now of course a meta will always exist. But pre U46, it was not this bad. Yes, trial teams were primarily Arcanists, but there was always a slot or two for a support DPS like an MKSorc or Z'enDK or Templar beam bot, and even things like a Corpseburster Necro outDPSed the Arcanists. Trials always had a Warden healer, but the other could be a Templar or Sorc or NB ore really anything but a DK. DK Tanks were generally good, but there were times that Sorc or Necro tanks were better choices.
And now: "If you are a DPS, these are your three lines. If you are a healer, here are the two setups. If you are a tank, here are the two setups." Basically no variety anymore.

The fact that in U46-47 there's one meta to rule them all is a game problem, not a player problem. If that one specific meta weren't so much more powerful than anything else, then people would be able to bring something else. But even the best player in the world would do better on the meta setup than on whatever they wanted to bring, and that's just indicative of a terribly balanced game.

I've noticed that the people who make the "lol just don't play meta!" argument tend to avoid PvP or endgame PvE or group play in general, and mostly stick to soloing everything. They tend to think of ESO as their TES6 proxy. And they love that they can make whatever build they want since their gameplay doesn't depend on others. But the players who are involved in endgame do have more issues with being shoehorned into one setup because nothing else even comes close to that. After all, look at the responses from the "how did you feel about U46?" thread - most of the people who are not happy with Subclassing talk about how they do endgame content and how they're being forced to play one specific combo to remain competitive, whereas most of the people who are happy talk about how they can solo things they couldn't before and how they can now make their elementalist or zookeeper a reality.

Been known for years to only use the launcher to patch your client, then just close it. Then you use a shortcut to the exe for your actual launches.

This is huge actually. Nice to be able to get in games and play after sitting in que burning all my golden food.

Yeah I sure hope they remove the MMR reset, it is the biggest issue when it comes to unbalanced teams and new players quitting.

I would have to buy a crowns only house that already has Argonian style huts on it to do that, which is not appealing to me, for Grand Topal, and it has a volcano which I don’t care for, or Fogbreak Lighthouse, which has a lighthouse that wouldn’t fit with a remote, secluded type of setting.

It also doesn’t make sense to me to put it on Moonsugar Meadow.

I would prefer a smaller, houseless property right on the beach in Solstice. It would be ideal if you could buy it with gold too.

It would be really nice to get a skill style for boneyard that changes the theme... since this skill is not only extremely thematic, its also a very specific grave type within the theme itself... I think getting a bit more neutral option would be really nice - for example there is/was in the conception stage of the necro the skill bonespikes that some npc's use - that could be a nice skill style for it that is more neutral; various npc's use this skill already (for example in moongrave fane)... I mean the skill is also called boneyard...

-> impaling spikes; since its already in game and is also fitting in regards of major breach etc...

One of the biggest problems in ESO is exactly this mindset. Too many players think they have to follow whatever setup the meta or esologs shows, and ZOS keeps ignoring how unhealthy that is for the game.

If you want to play a Nightblade, just play it. Enjoy the class and the game itself. Chasing numbers only because “that’s what DPS charts say” is nothing but fake power at the cost of your own fun. That’s why so many players burn out, they stop enjoying the game for what it actually offers and instead just follow whatever DPS addon or parse video is trendy.

I’m honestly glad I stopped putting money into this game, because until ZOS starts encouraging choice instead of funneling everyone into the same cookie-cutter builds, the community will keep repeating the same cycle.


EDIT:
I saw someone say this about D4 to Blizzard: "Why don’t you just let the game die? You’ve completely lost the essence of D4."

Well, I feel the same;
ZoS, Can you stop with all the nonsense you’ve created around the Elder Scrolls just to squeeze out maximum profit? If you truly don’t care about the spirit of the game anymore, then just let it die, close the servers. The Elder Scrolls deserves far better than this.

Personally I do not really care for however many CPs I myself have, but I do like seeing how others are doing with their pursuit of exp. But I do not want to have a CP cap, not knowing where it ends is a magical feeling. Even if it does not grant any power.

The reason I made this thread, is because I always love making progress and love having games be endless(and not wasting anything). In the past I used to play another MMO which had no maximum level, and where leveling took months and even years(for comparison, ESO's entire CP level 1-3600 journey was about one 'high' level there). Feeling the game is endless, and not knowing where you are in a year's time, is a great feeling.

Not knowing where the game's journey ends or can possibly end, is one of the things I truly love about MMO's. And I am really missing this feeling in ESO's CP system. We know everything in advance, even where some mystery may be good.

PS: As said by other players as well, CPs above level ~1500 do not matter powerwise. So for new players having CPs capped or uncapped should not make a difference at all.