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Re: Update 50 PTS – Week 3 Summary
Inari Telvanni wrote: »I'm a little sad to see that the feedback I've been pushing about werewolf emotes has gone seemingly ignored or unseen...
The potential of werewolves having emotes again after all these years had me very excited.
Don't worry their only agenda is to nerf it into worthlessness and wash their hands of it.
coop500
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Re: Update 50 PTS – Week 3 Summary
Honestly man it's pretty friggen bad, especially once the classes get their reworks, we will be useless. Hell, we'll probably be useless quicker than that, but I'm trying not to give people room to argue and hair split.
I thought the point of the reworks was to bring new life and power to playstyles nobody plays. But I guess since werewolf offends the normal people too much across the board (PvP and PvE) then the devs deem it safe to leave werewolves as suck monsters because we werewolf community will still play it even if it does suck, and them sucking means people who don't play them won't get offended.
This is what I've been trying to say for awhile now but nobody really cares if werewolf is good in PvE. Melee in PvE is already punished to hell, melee cleave is even more of a joke, especially as weak as it is now, and about to be weaker apparently.
I'm sorry I finally pulled 140K DPS devs (with a mythic that will undoubtedly get nerfed), I understand having fun with Werewolf isn't allowed.
I thought the point of the reworks was to bring new life and power to playstyles nobody plays. But I guess since werewolf offends the normal people too much across the board (PvP and PvE) then the devs deem it safe to leave werewolves as suck monsters because we werewolf community will still play it even if it does suck, and them sucking means people who don't play them won't get offended.
Melee cleave is a joke for PvE and the more I think about it, the more I realize that werewolf is still vastly inferior to any other spec especially with claws (so PvE shouldn’t be a consideration at this point as we can make that a bit better later down the road too).
This is what I've been trying to say for awhile now but nobody really cares if werewolf is good in PvE. Melee in PvE is already punished to hell, melee cleave is even more of a joke, especially as weak as it is now, and about to be weaker apparently.
I'm sorry I finally pulled 140K DPS devs (with a mythic that will undoubtedly get nerfed), I understand having fun with Werewolf isn't allowed.
coop500
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Re: Now that we can hide all armor...
Gloambound style means that the mechanism for this is already in the code. Separate the hiding from the style and we're there.
That means they want you to buy this feature, it will not be free
imPDA
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
dark_hunterxmg wrote: »
If the real player stands there face tanking like React does, he will.
No reason to sit here making blatantly false statements. Seems to be a lot of attacks on my character or the integrity of the testing I've provided going on.
Every single CMX I've provided apart from one single CMX weeks ago where static acted as a parse dummy (which was disclosed at the time of posting) has been from proper duels complete with healing, blocking, rolling, kiting, stuns, attempts to outspace and pressure back, etc.
There aren't any attempts to deceive or manipulate with any of the data provided. We're putting on realistic PVP builds and fighting normally. In my case since the EU copy on week 3, I've actually been using my live PC EU character to fight the WWs - the build I run every day for solo PVP in cyrodiil/IC.
You are NOT doing 10k DPS on werewolf to a person (“with max resistances”) doing these things. ~even if I could it doesn’t truly matter as I have absolutely no burst and my whole kit is purgeable~ And if you are, it’s because of sorc mastery and/Signet which you and I both know will be nerfed into the group and werewolf will be left as is.
You are ridiculously disingenuous but I suppose I can only direct my frustration towards the combat team/feedback handling as it seems that they are only ever able to see the feedback to nerf werewolf but not buff it or sidegrade it.
Wuuffyy
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
Mediocre_Talents wrote: »Ok, so a WW does 200k parce damage? OH NO! PVE is still going to be 8 Arc's with beams anyways. That 200k damage is single target which isn't really used in PvE anyways.
Yup, 200K DPS on a melee only build with lame melee cleave will never see the light of day in real content. That's something even the devs don't seem to understand about why Beam is still king. It's got range, it's got cleave, it gives the user a giant ass shield to just ignore incoming damage while they channel it, it's nuts.
And yes I do play beam, reluctantly, because I want to actually achieve things with success. It's depressing how much weaker all of my characters are in practice over my beam man.
I came into this rework hoping my werewolf could at least become decent enough that it won't be such a huge self nerf to play as WW instead of Beam.
OBVIOUSLY that was a mistake to have hope after being garbage for 11 years.
coop500
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Re: DK is extremely, ludicrously, overpowered in PvP.
And people wonder why I stopped PvP.
They destroyed the necromancer class in profit of other classes, and I got told to wait for 2028.
Looking at the situation we are in today where we are forced into other classes, I am better off on going on other games.
And this vengeance campaign is not a solution, and even there classes are not balanced.
They destroyed the necromancer class in profit of other classes, and I got told to wait for 2028.
Looking at the situation we are in today where we are forced into other classes, I am better off on going on other games.
And this vengeance campaign is not a solution, and even there classes are not balanced.
Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
Thinking about it, it is extraordinary myopic to bring out content that excludes the majority of players when there are new games out there that cater to their needs.
Even myself, as a so-called ‘elite’ endgame player has had enough of this hot mess & will be spending my time elsewhere, petting cats.
Even myself, as a so-called ‘elite’ endgame player has had enough of this hot mess & will be spending my time elsewhere, petting cats.
Re: Update 50 PTS – Week 3 Summary
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom what does "...without completely overpowering the meta in PVP" mean to the team? Is the intention of the team to make sure that Werewolf cannot be competitive with the meta? Have we seen werewolf overpowering the meta across the board?
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
You are NOT doing 10k DPS on werewolf to a person (“with max resistance” doing these things. And if you are, it’s because of sorc mastery and/Signet which you and I both know will be nerfed into the group and werewolf will be left as is. You are ridiculously disingenuous but I suppose I can only direct my frustration towards the combat team/feedback handling as it seems that they are only ever able to see the feedback to nerf werewolf but not buff it.
And yet, that is what is occurring. React posted screenshots without sorc mastery passives and yet you still insist that he is being purposefully deceptive. I don't know how to convince you that I and others are being fully earnest here. Well-known players with sterling reputations in the PC NA PVP community (who I have a deep respect for and have fought upwards of a thousand times) with the best defensive gameplay (block-casting timing/movement/rotations) are getting parsed for outrageous numbers on PTS right now. The insistence that this is somehow a grand conspiracy of players specifically biased against werewolf for some reason is uncharitable and unproductive.
Re: Update 50 PTS – Week 3 Summary
Thank you again. We love to see this.
Though I feel like there is a disconnect between what the forums seem to discuss and what is being shown here. You certainly have many feedback channels. But when I look at the major topics discussed on the PTS section this week; none of them seem to be mentioned here.
Take for instance Templar's damage passive being reduced to 750 in pvp, but further reduced to ~300 damage per instance after battlespirit.
Sorcerer's Blood Magic heal scaling with max HP is broadly discussed as a potential problem.
Concerns that Nightblades in pvp can't possibly even reach the higher crit cap, and therefor the passive seems quite pointless.
And then of course the problem with Werewolf continuing to cause problems with certain class mastery talents. (Warden particularly, and of course DK and Sorc, due to the max HP scaling of Blood Magic)
Though I feel like there is a disconnect between what the forums seem to discuss and what is being shown here. You certainly have many feedback channels. But when I look at the major topics discussed on the PTS section this week; none of them seem to be mentioned here.
Take for instance Templar's damage passive being reduced to 750 in pvp, but further reduced to ~300 damage per instance after battlespirit.
Sorcerer's Blood Magic heal scaling with max HP is broadly discussed as a potential problem.
Concerns that Nightblades in pvp can't possibly even reach the higher crit cap, and therefor the passive seems quite pointless.
And then of course the problem with Werewolf continuing to cause problems with certain class mastery talents. (Warden particularly, and of course DK and Sorc, due to the max HP scaling of Blood Magic)
Dracane
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