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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for New Item Sets
Shattered Paths Signet
This mythic still deals half damage when Feral Guardian pet is active.
We now know that Warden was not an outlier when it comes to using signet nor was it getting those numbers due to a broken interaction with the pet. In fact ww last week was parsing 201k, sorc 195k with signet.
The pet nerf also doesnt exist on live servers currently with signet released and the game is in a healthy state. No broken interactions, warden is not oppressive or even meta in pve or pvp with signet. Both warden and the game is in a healthy state on live servers currently.
Which is why i believe the pet nerf currently in pts should not go to live. Please consider reverting it
This mythic still deals half damage when Feral Guardian pet is active.
We now know that Warden was not an outlier when it comes to using signet nor was it getting those numbers due to a broken interaction with the pet. In fact ww last week was parsing 201k, sorc 195k with signet.
The pet nerf also doesnt exist on live servers currently with signet released and the game is in a healthy state. No broken interactions, warden is not oppressive or even meta in pve or pvp with signet. Both warden and the game is in a healthy state on live servers currently.
Which is why i believe the pet nerf currently in pts should not go to live. Please consider reverting it
acanca
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Re: Night Market has made Group Finder come alive
Having to relist after someone leaves is necessary too in case someone says just wait till you lose half etc. Really if you dont constantly update it creates a chain reaction and the whole group dies, so its required and pretty annoying if running a pug.
Small thing but one that would make leading a lot more desirable and make me less anxious when having to tank as well as maintain the 12 man.
Small thing but one that would make leading a lot more desirable and make me less anxious when having to tank as well as maintain the 12 man.
Re: Please re-balance Serpent's Disdain next
@Luneca Also I request you do not dance around definitions, skill and experience in this game can be defined clearly and my point by mentioning it is that I am not claiming the set is op because I beat some casual gamers with it
Trian94
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Re: Shattered Paths Signet Is Problematic
This is way stronger than it's ever been though.
But if this thing wasn't busted strong most PvPers wouldn't care about the Nightmarket. I'm looking forward to farming it.
But if this thing wasn't busted strong most PvPers wouldn't care about the Nightmarket. I'm looking forward to farming it.
Re: Please re-balance Serpent's Disdain next
Guys, be serious. Serpent disdain and shattered path signet is meta 1v1 build on every single class. Considering rele was disabled for pvp, serpent disdain should be same story. Trying to defend this set in pvp, is like saying that the grass is blue.
Re: Please re-balance Serpent's Disdain next
Clearly an overloaded set. It enables so many debuffs to be active at the same time that it works both as a pressure set with burning and poisoned and hemorrhage and as a burst set if you take into account vulnerability, brittle, sundered etc. (Plus chilled which is a 5% damage reduction to your opponent's outgoing damage). Definitely needs a change
I want to highlight my initial comment in this post in an attempt to make it clear for you. This is the set's synergy with elemental susceptibility and 2 abilities max. It is A LOT. Maybe you're not familiar with the numbers or the actual gameplay of it which is completely fine but this is a lot of stuff for a 5 piece set to extend to 20 seconds and leaving room for other stuff to be paired with it i.e Maarselok, force of nature (4620 unique penetration).
This set is for sure one of the things that need to be checked and reworked.
And as a reminder all status effects have a duration of like 4 seconds
Trian94
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Re: Please re-balance Serpent's Disdain next
How can you make all these claims if you don't use the set? Take your first sentence for example, it's entirely false since I've used the set in open world 1vX and it works wonders even against people who can purge.
The argument is that this set was never fine before any mythic or item set came out that compliments it.
I'll ignore the fallacy. Let's get into your own words:
So you killing someone with a set makes it OP? Please continue. While you're at it, explain how and why players you attacked with it and gave time to fight back failed to do so and why?
Explain why the roll button, LOS, etc. weren't a counter.
Also explain why they didn't just cc or otherwise fight back against you.
Lastly, explain how it's more oppressive with or without the set and explain how this set being nerfed or even "adjusted" w/e term we want to use, would alleviate anything in those situations.
I literally cannot see it.
I've already explained why the set is overpowered in this thread. They all tried everything you mentioned and it didn't matter both in 1vX situations and in some 1v1s vs experienced players as well. Because I can apply every status effect debuff and dot imagineable at the cost of one free skill and 1 skill that costs 2k stamina (blood for blood if vampire which costs health) all of which lasts for like 20 seconds and can be reapplied at zero cost. And imagine that my version of the serpent build wasn't the most powerful there is. I was also using pure sorc.
It was part of the most powerful builds since before subclassing.
If you dont get that then I there is no point discussing it with you
Find an argument that proves your point without mentioning "skill" or "experience." That kind of argument doesn't hold water because it's irrelevant. And it's irrelevant because who decides what is and what is not skill? Who decides what "experienced" means?
Again with vagueness. Also, even without that set I can apply every status effect in 2 moves too, and I even have it automated. So even a long that line of logic it's still an invalid argument because other sets still enable essentially the same thing.
A lot of people don't realize that ZOS actually has many sets that have different effects that essentially all do the same exact thing in the end, which is why it makes little sense to bother nerfing some of these sets if the core issue you have isn't actually the set but: "free damage", the fact that your builds can't purge, the fact that they don't have enough healing to counter the damage, etc.
That's the core of it. They can nerf the set, but I still want to know exactly what you guys find this set to be insane over v. all the other sets that exist and still enable the same or similar outcomes in the end.
And no one is providing an answer. Just vagueness and agreeing that the set should be nerfed because they said so.
That it makes all these status effects and debuffs stick to you for 20 seconds, simple as that
If you're not using the set and apply all these status effects assuming u have a status effect oriented build, best you're gonna do is tickle people
Trian94
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Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
So far, not impressed. I don't see what was wrong with the old process of getting a new storyline and DLCs each year. Instead we get a whole new way of getting rewards plus a nightmare-difficulty zone with very little reason to do it. The Season thing needs to improve... a LOT.
Re: Please re-balance Serpent's Disdain next
How can you make all these claims if you don't use the set? Take your first sentence for example, it's entirely false since I've used the set in open world 1vX and it works wonders even against people who can purge.
The argument is that this set was never fine before any mythic or item set came out that compliments it.
I'll ignore the fallacy. Let's get into your own words:
So you killing someone with a set makes it OP? Please continue. While you're at it, explain how and why players you attacked with it and gave time to fight back failed to do so and why?
Explain why the roll button, LOS, etc. weren't a counter.
Also explain why they didn't just cc or otherwise fight back against you.
Lastly, explain how it's more oppressive with or without the set and explain how this set being nerfed or even "adjusted" w/e term we want to use, would alleviate anything in those situations.
I literally cannot see it.
I've already explained why the set is overpowered in this thread. They all tried everything you mentioned and it didn't matter both in 1vX situations and in some 1v1s vs experienced players as well. Because I can apply every status effect debuff and dot imagineable at the cost of one free skill and 1 skill that costs 2k stamina (blood for blood if vampire which costs health) all of which lasts for like 20 seconds and can be reapplied at zero cost. And imagine that my version of the serpent build wasn't the most powerful there is. I was also using pure sorc.
It was part of the most powerful builds since before subclassing.
If you dont get that then I there is no point discussing it with you
I also see you bring up purging and dodging status effects. I don't really understand the logic behind dodging status effects but lets pretend that the dots and debuffs applied to you can be dodged: Dodging takes up an increasing amount of stamina while reapplying 3 status effects takes zero resources and if u wanna throw in there your glyphs u can light attack or even better use a weapon ability like rending slashes which will just apply your glyphs and hemorrhaging. That's 6 status effects at the cost of like 2k stamina as mentioned above.
Same goes for purging which costs like 4k+ magicka but doesnt have increasing cost. Try spamming that.
Trian94
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Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
Having played a few days more, I think Night Market is a pretty cool place with some decent gear (even if that gear is like a decade or more outdated). I've gotten some nice furnishing plans and golden gear that I can deconstruct for materials.
With a pinch of luck, all the puzzles except for the arachnid invasion in Skittering are soloable; These only grant a token amount of faction standing with a considerable cooldown however, so grouping is still going to be optimal. I think the spider minigame could scale better so that a solo player might be able to complete it, but it's also not that hard to group for it. Boulder minigame in the parch was the most infuriating because you can't even see the whole puzzle at any given time.
If the objective of the Night Market was to get people to use the Group Finder though, then I think it might be achieving that goal since I have seen increased activity in its use.
On the subject of dailies however... there is something weird going on with those. Of the 6 shareable faction dailies, it would seem that only 3-4 can be shared with you. Every single group I tried sharing dailies with were not able to share more than that it seems, and i cannot figure out why. We even told each other which quests we had and which we had done for the day but they still could not share them. I thought it might be a difference in chosen faction, but given the amount of people I tried getting shares from, I don't think that's the case.
I still have not seen any Faceted Foes since the 1st day. I'm not sure what the intention was for those, but the only one we did find would one-shot any DPS so that felt a little over-tuned.
I'm still unclear on what the competitive aspect between factions is supposed to be. Feels tacked on tbh.
I will maintain that the new content is pretty buggy and not very intuitive though. I don't think ZoS is too far away from achieving a functional gameplay loop, but it's going to need tweaking in difficulty and/or rewards.
Edit: typo
With a pinch of luck, all the puzzles except for the arachnid invasion in Skittering are soloable; These only grant a token amount of faction standing with a considerable cooldown however, so grouping is still going to be optimal. I think the spider minigame could scale better so that a solo player might be able to complete it, but it's also not that hard to group for it. Boulder minigame in the parch was the most infuriating because you can't even see the whole puzzle at any given time.
If the objective of the Night Market was to get people to use the Group Finder though, then I think it might be achieving that goal since I have seen increased activity in its use.
On the subject of dailies however... there is something weird going on with those. Of the 6 shareable faction dailies, it would seem that only 3-4 can be shared with you. Every single group I tried sharing dailies with were not able to share more than that it seems, and i cannot figure out why. We even told each other which quests we had and which we had done for the day but they still could not share them. I thought it might be a difference in chosen faction, but given the amount of people I tried getting shares from, I don't think that's the case.
I still have not seen any Faceted Foes since the 1st day. I'm not sure what the intention was for those, but the only one we did find would one-shot any DPS so that felt a little over-tuned.
I'm still unclear on what the competitive aspect between factions is supposed to be. Feels tacked on tbh.
I will maintain that the new content is pretty buggy and not very intuitive though. I don't think ZoS is too far away from achieving a functional gameplay loop, but it's going to need tweaking in difficulty and/or rewards.
Edit: typo
