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Re: Nerfing WW further in Next Update for PvE?!
What are you even talking about? There's a SINGLE Passive that lowers the Ult cost to stay in WW form. That's it. Please explain how that single thing is supposed to imply that WW is "required" to run in groups to be strong? I'm wanting to know where you got the strange idea that a single Passive equates being "required" to be in a WW group to be strong and weak alone.TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »Well Werewolves were never supposed to be powerful on their own, that is why they require to run in a pack and why they have a passive for being grouped with other Werewolves, where were people getting this strange idea that they were supposed to be powerful solo when passives like that exist?
That ONE Passive doesn't give any unique buffs. It doesn't have any kind of Synergy for a group. It doesn't have any interactions with other WW Skills than the Transformation. It doesn't give any kind of Shields. It doesn't give healing. It doesn't buff any stats. It doesn't debuff the enemy. It literally does NOTHING but lower the Ult drain for every WW in the group up to a certain amount. Which includes the transformed WW itself. Nothing about it, or any other WW Skill for that matter, implies at all that it's only meant to be strong in groups.
Let's not present our opinions as facts to argue for balancing.
@MSattrtand
Cool, now do that parse without a Trial dummy giving you all those buffs and in actual content forcing you to constantly move around, block, CC break, and so on, please. And tell us what other Sets/Mythics you're using instead of one part of the builds you used.
Berserker can ONLY reliably hold form if they a) have something they can consistently Devour during a fight, or b) go into a fight with somewhere around 300-400 Ult minimum so you have time to get enough Fury to proc Rampage. Which makes it pointless to make the form take only 100 Ult to pop when you're just going to get thrown out of the form over and over. They really need to adjust how much the Ult drain costs and it makes 0 sense that they've implemented that to test it imo.
At any rate, I said this in the WW Feedback thread, but we aren't trying to advocate for WW to get buffed or anything. We're worried that it's going to keep getting nerfed over and over to the point where the whole reason for the refresh (which was, big shock, to make it STRONGER) is lost. Other things have gotten big enough nerfs that people are upset. We're worried it's going to happen to WW.
Arunei
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Re: Make Pyrebrand crit again
People are already complaining about a mid set like Serpent's Disdain, and you honestly think it's a good idea to power up Pyreband? It's not happening.
When ZOS nerfs something, they usually don't undo it. It's a good thing I learned a long time ago not to grind hard for gear in this game. I'll just fire siege.
I think it's great idea. Asking for nerfs is weird unless something is grossly uncompetitive like Shattered Paths is making pulse gankers right now. Giving pyrebrand crit would make a mediocre set a little better is all. I've yet to have an encounter in group or 1v1 that makes me think Serpents is a problem.
The people who think Pyrebrand a very strong set at the moment must not even use it. I can tell you, it's not.
s3dulo
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Re: Update 50 PTS – Week 3 Summary
More Rakkhat information based upon some recent parses (pureSorc, Sergeant's + Storm Master):
Oakensoul: 126k
Anthelmir: 130k
Rakkhat: 133k
Based upon this, we see that Rakkhat is a measly 5% ahead of Oakensoul formats and 2% ahead of Anthelmir. In other words, the set is currently failing the very basic test of justifying its own existence.
Why would a player ever choose Rakkhat under these conditions? Vs Oakensoul particularly, when Oakensoul gives you:
Infinite sustain (vs. the resource penalty of Rakkhat)
Simple one-bar format
Permanent Empower (vs. the clunky Contingency weaving of Rakkhat)
Minor Slayer
Vastly improved tankiness with tons of defensive buffs
Oakensoul and Anthelmir are completely fine where they are but Rakkhat NEEDS additional help. It is THE Heavy Attack Mythic. Like literally that is the ONLY thing that it does in the game. It even has a "curse" component to it that justifies additional power. So if it is only fractionally better at actually increasing Heavy Attack DPS then it is massively failing at filling its intended niche in the game.
@ZOS_Kevin Is it intended that Rakkhat to be in this weakened position? Are folk aware that it has completely fallen between the cracks during this PTS?
Oakensoul: 126k
Anthelmir: 130k
Rakkhat: 133k
Based upon this, we see that Rakkhat is a measly 5% ahead of Oakensoul formats and 2% ahead of Anthelmir. In other words, the set is currently failing the very basic test of justifying its own existence.
Why would a player ever choose Rakkhat under these conditions? Vs Oakensoul particularly, when Oakensoul gives you:
Infinite sustain (vs. the resource penalty of Rakkhat)
Simple one-bar format
Permanent Empower (vs. the clunky Contingency weaving of Rakkhat)
Minor Slayer
Vastly improved tankiness with tons of defensive buffs
Oakensoul and Anthelmir are completely fine where they are but Rakkhat NEEDS additional help. It is THE Heavy Attack Mythic. Like literally that is the ONLY thing that it does in the game. It even has a "curse" component to it that justifies additional power. So if it is only fractionally better at actually increasing Heavy Attack DPS then it is massively failing at filling its intended niche in the game.
@ZOS_Kevin Is it intended that Rakkhat to be in this weakened position? Are folk aware that it has completely fallen between the cracks during this PTS?
Re: [Housing / Night Market] Night Market Merchants inaccessible when NM closes - cannot buy furnishings
that is very odd
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
Please show us who's asking for buffs. None of us are, we're asking for WW not to get heavy-handed nerfs over a handful of specific interactions. How is asking for Mastery Passives to be disabled/decreased in strength for transformed WW asking for a buff? How is asking for Signet to be disabled for transformed WW asking for a buff?Pinktraining wrote: »WW players should stop complaining and try playing Pure NB, the worst class in the entire game, and then they will know just how powerful WW really is.
A class that only uses one bar can deal such high damage, and it's not even limited by the light attack cap, yet some people are still advocating for a buff to WW?
WW is already quite balanced; it would be perfect if we just slightly nerfed the unexpected damage buffs from shattered paths.
We don't want to be made stronger, we're worried about WW getting nerfed right back into pointlessness before the rework even makes it to Live. People are coming out of the woodwork to decry WW's strength without seeming to consider that YES, it WILL be considerably more powerful than Live! Just like, surprise, DK was after ITS rework! That is the ENTIRE POINT of these reworks!
Sure, tweak numbers here and there, fix broken interactions, don't let the damage get TOO out of hand. But like you said, WW is fine where it is, the average person isn't going to do top tier damage because they're NOT going to be running Sets that work with WW's Skills or doing proper rotation to generate Ukt/Fury correctly/power their Claw Fury correctly. It's a 1bar builds but that doesn't mean average players will get the most out of it. If WW keeps getting nerfed, though, it gets to a point of why bother trying to make it stronger?
Look at everything else they've been nerfing this PTS and tell us with a straight face we don't have valid concerns of ZOS doing too big of a nerf that winds up going Live.
Arunei
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Re: The Night Market event is already dead?
Like I said, people claiming it's dead are either coping or not using the group finder.
Re: The Night Market event is already dead?
The worst thing I can say about the liveliness of this event is that it can feel like a ghost town if in your instance everyone is in a different area. The 36 player cap means this can happen very easily. Group finder groups fill up almost instantly though, so if you want group play, is not hard to find
Re: ESO+ Auto Renewed, No Crowns Awarded
spartaxoxo wrote: »I'm sorry that happened to you OP. I understand your frustration though. I hope that they don't permaban you. For anyone else, I would give this kind of thing a few days as ZOS has been pretty good about these types of things in my experience but it can take a few days.
It’s going on a few weeks now for several people. With new ones being added daily. And no official “update” since going on 2 weeks now. No warning, no pinned thread alerting this could happen to PS users and the steps to follow for resolution. No word on compensation for folks who have gone weeks without the benefits they specifically paid money for.
I’m not personally affected (yet, my renewal is in July), but several guildmates are, including my auctioneer who got hit with it a few days ago when he renewed his ESO+ subscription, so it’s getting just a *tad* bit irritating at this point…
But, you know, it’s not Night Market-related so who cares, right? And it’s only affecting one customer base and not all platforms, and especially not PC, so doubly who cares, right? LOL
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Class Mastery
YandereGirlfriend wrote: »ItsNotLiving wrote: »Templar is underwhelming across the board. The support passives, in particular, simply do not compete with stuff like major force. The damage passives will not convince people to trade beams/ whips for jabs. Hopefully, we see some changes in PTS week 5, but I doubt it.
They need to move the Templar refresh ahead of sorcerer since sorc is already in a a good spot.
How about no.
If Necromancers can wait their turn then so can Templars.
Honestly with decent masteries templar would be fine for now. They dont have a ton of good skills but the ones that are good are really good.
That being said those masteries are a tragedy atm, except for bastion.
Firstmep
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Re: Nightmarket Instance full
I understand the desire, but I kinda prefer the current pop cap.
Though admittedly it has a lot to do with repeated frustrations over trying to complete an oddity only to have a dozen or so players run up and start mashing switches like mad resulting in failure.
Though admittedly it has a lot to do with repeated frustrations over trying to complete an oddity only to have a dozen or so players run up and start mashing switches like mad resulting in failure.
