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Re: Nerf Range Ganking!
albertberku wrote: »If only there are some players, that spend quite a lot of time in Cyrodiil, has knowledge about the builds and the game. And most importantly shares the arguments with videos, combat logs, calculations and everything readily available for everyone to see with their own eyes.
Oh wait, i am doing that already in this thread actually... ??
If you are in PC EU, tell me your usernames and i will be glad to help you to experience the range ganking. And i will post a clip of it here for everyone to see : )
Yea your gameplay footage has some nice lightning mage RP elements to it, but if you’re playing a pure magsorc without even running Rallying Cry, then you probably shouldn’t be presenting yourself as an authority on Cyrodiil theorycrafting.
Again, look inward. You are getting one tapped by a meta gank build while already being pressured, debuffed, and hit by multiple players in one clip, and you’re not even full hp on the other clip, all while running what is essentially a 2016-era setup in modern Cyrodiil. The game has changed massively over the years. If you refuse to adapt your build, your mitigation, your HP pool, your shielding, your crit resistance, or even acknowledge the current meta, then of course you are going to explode to pulse ganker.
That does not automatically mean the build is unbeatable or fundamentally broken, even if it is ovetuned. It means you are severely behind the current state of PvP.
Re: Nerf Range Ganking!
albertberku wrote: »You want to run Pure Magsorc with Rallying Cry? And how are you going to proc your Rallying Cry with your 30% crit chance and one burst heal skill on the backbar? I am sure your opponent will just stop and wait for you to cast 3 - 4 heals back to back during the last 5 seconds refresh period of Rallying Cry so that it procs.
In the latest video i am using Esometric Greaves. Direct damage reduction i have is much higher than Rallying Cry, we are talking about at least 20% better for that situation. Should i do the math for you or will you find it out yourself?
First, do not play a pure magsorc in modern Cyrodiil and then act surprised when you explode to a subclassed gank.
Second, yes, slot Vigor. Between Crit Surge and Vigor, you are almost guaranteed to proc Rallying Cry within 1–2 backbar GCDs. And if you are somehow still struggling to proc one of the easiest and strongest defensive sets in the game, then front bar Rallying Cry and use the free Major Prophecy mages light gives you to help proc it even more consistently.
You are calling the set “hard to proc” while playing a class that literally gets Minor Prophecy from one of its core class lines. At that point, it genuinely becomes a skill/build issue rather than a balance issue.
Re: Is copying over live characters necessary for the test process?
How does it not improve testing?
Even though turning the question around does not answer my question, here goes my answer: I started the thief quest but did not get it finished because of a glitch. When they reset the server for EU, that progress was removed. I started the Sheo quest . . . now that progress is going to be removed.
shadoza
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Re: Is copying over live characters necessary for the test process?
BagOfBadgers wrote: »
So you can compair your actual toon live to the upcoming content, DPS/skills/styles. Also you could make a cp3600 toon, with BIS gear and test your constant claims that these sets ruin you experiance as they give a massive DPS increase!
Can't you recreate your character given the free box items?
Also you could make a cp3600 toon, with BIS gear and test your constant claims that these sets ruin you experiance as they give a massive DPS increase!
I do not know why you keep throwing shade at me. Could you not have just offered a reply without the hate?
shadoza
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Re: Addressing U50 PTS Combat & Ability Concerns
Umbracat449 wrote: »Just throwing my support behind the excellent posts by @Turtle_Bot @MashmalloMan @ZhuJiuyin @Cammiepoo @pluvioisaplanet
Please, trust us. We know that on the dummy sorc looks amazing, but there are huge limitations when it comes to group content which are not being represented on the dummy.
The dummy is not the game.
Cleave matters.
Support in the form of buffs and debuffs matter.
Sorc does almost nothing on all these fronts.
To make sorc work right now we're running essentially 3 spammables. Knife, bound armaments and frags. It's all single target. Stack static reverb on top of that and it becaomes very clear that you're not going to get any cleave out of this build.
You're just not, all the GCD's are tied to those skills.
Static reverb is carrying sorc hard in these parses. Take it off and you lose 17k+ for the passive damage plus whatever concussed it's procing.
I also want to put some emphasis on any build that is running 60% crit chance is going to have big swings on the dummy. Look a those big 200k parses and you'll see 80% crit on frags. Because why would someone post their parse with bad frag crit %?
In real content we don't reset the boss because we're not getting frag procs and can see that the NUMBA TOO SMOL.
You're balancing on a curated data set where it only shows the best case scenario.
Please, I'm begging you, stop using dummy parses as the most important metric for PvE balance. It's a really good metric is identifying where something is too weak, but it's a terrible metric for identifying when something is too strong.
Surely, SURELY, zos has actual analytics running over the data generated from players in game. Seriously, in this day and age, how are they not making use of real player data.
Are we SURE they are only using parse data?
I don't think since Zynga, anyone in gaming has any business to NOT be ALL about data-centric game design.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but I don't believe there is any particularly robust use of player data for analytical purposes in ESO.
I think that the endless junkyard of never-used sets is testament to that. Game analytics would indicate that most sets never see use in-game but ZOS either does not have visibility into those statistics or they refuse to leverage that data.
Similarly, we have ESOLogs results from top groups that show skill lines like Shadow, Dark Magic, etc. are never selected and yet those lines are still ignored. While basically all groups use the same copypasta meta load-outs.
Re: Wizard's Addon Subclass Restriction?
There's your problem. If WW takes 2500ms to swap a setup with your potato, you won't be competitive even if you'd use it.heimdall14_9 wrote: »2500ms
But in any case, all addons add some sort of advantage over non-addon players. It's up to you if you want to use it or not. I remember you treated manual gear swapping as an interesting part of the game, as a separate minigame, if you will. So keep doing that. I keep using WW which is perfectly fine by ZOS. Has been for a very long time.
Anyway, I wouldn't keep fighting windmills, but you do you.
Re: Wizard's Addon Subclass Restriction?
Oh please stop with this. I know you don’t like it but please stop.
Re: Nerf Range Ganking!
Militan1404 wrote: »Are they really that much of a problem? Must be really lucky that i havent seen them much around at all, and everytime i has i just used a detect pot or a gap closer and hit them once and they die just as fast as the one they are trying to gank. So i fail to see the problem, if they fail the gank arent they then destined to die becouse they are so squishy? Its kind of like those that complain about unnkillable tanks, but never mention that the tanks cant kill them either. Could be wrong tho and i just havent meet the right players yet, but the one i did encountered seemed harmless.
It is pretty much exactly as you describe. Most Pulse gankers are not reliably one-shotting properly built meta solo builds. If you stack 2–3 of them together, or simply zerg somebody down while running Pulse setups, then yes, they can create enough pressure to instantly kill people or make fighting outnumbered impossible without LoS, but that is not the average Cyrodiil encounter.
The reality is that a huge portion of the playerbase either does not know how to build properly or outright refuses to adapt to changing metas. Before Pulse ganking people complained about DK Whip “one shots,” before that it was subclassing un-counter able burst, and before that something else. The target changes every patch.
A lot of Cyrodiil players are extremely resistant to adapting and very quick to externalize blame. Instead of looking at their builds, their survivability, or whether their playstyle still works in the current meta, the immediate reaction is to blame the devs, “sweaty players,” or whatever build is currently popular. It is never their fault for running some outdated bow/bow Nightblade assassin setup in 2026, the game itself must be broken.
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Class Mastery
And I'm not the only one on this thread alone who have said the same thing, a handful of people have agreed Sorc is very much lacking.
Not merely a handful of people. The overwhelming majority echo similar sentiments. The addressing post the devs did last week has half the comments saying such things.
Personally I am not too bothered having to use external skills, this is not my primary issue, because such has been the reality for Sorc since day 1, and realistically you can only use so many skills at a time anyways.
Still it's true that there is an overwhelming amount of useless skills/morphs. Some other class skillines share this same problem.
What bothers me much more is how mostly undertuned the Sorc masteries are. I don't generally find it useful to compare masteries across classes, but in the case of Font of Power, it helps to show how underpowered it is. Templar might only get 600 spell damage, but alas, they also have an additional 16% spell damage bonus from passives (roughly the value Font of Power grants for average builds by the way) which lets those 600 damage baloon up to nearly 820 spell damage with Major Sorcery. In pvp this becomes 880 spell damage with keep/flag buffs. Warden can baloon up to over 2300 spell damage with external % damage sources.
And all this goes for Nightblade and Arcanist too. They get base damage, which is far superior to a % modifier like Font of Power, because they benefit from modifiers that make them even stronger. Font of Power is one of the worst of all the spell damage talents offered through masteries when you really think about it, particularly when considering that it's tied to the worst damage stats in the game (magicka and stamina.) And this doubly nerfs Font of Power, because in order to raise its bonus, you have to actively forgo the stat you seek to increase with it (spell damage) in favor of magicka. Make it make sense.
It is a really bad paradox that could have easily been bettered by not making the conversion rate as harsh as it is. 1750 is ridiculous. The original 1500 was a more than reasonable equation.
Sorcerer has a source of flat spell damage and font of power is a % multiplier. Templar doesnt have one and so they get flat spell damage. Also with Font of power you also have to take into account the fact that you are likely building max magicka which also contributes to damage.
Both pale in comparison to warden of course but I don't think Templar is a good example as bright harbinger is really not that great.
Firstmep
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Re: PLEASE do something about the IA Dragons
It's hilarious that they do their flight phase no matter what. In early arcs it is possible to nuke them during the first ground phase. So they go flying with zero HP, and die instant when touching the ground again. While the fight is technically won the player still needs to survive the mechs of the flight phase.
tomfant
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