Best Of
Re: ESO needs a reboot in 2026 with a rollback of Subclassing
Of course they should rollback and remove this nonsense of subclassing. But that's exactly why it won't happen, because it doesn't make any sense. So… they will keep it.
Meanwhile, they'll probably find something else to break the game even more.And this is the problem: ESO is not about fun or the game anymore it's only about a DPS race. The fun, the lore, the fantasy, the game we enjoy has turned into nothing more than a DPS race."... even if it made my chars more powerful...."
No mechanics needed, no tanks needed, no healers needed, no fun needed… just DPS!!!
This is not how I perceive it. I do understand the critics against recent design decisions. However, no one ever forces you to do subclassing at all, unless you want to go for score pushing and high end game trials.
Specifically for the fun, the lore, the fantasy you definitely don't need subclassing and everyone can enjoy it with their base class build.
Concerning tanking and healing: check ouf vet dungeons and trials of any difficulty. You quickly see that without a decent tank or heal it will fail whatever your dps is. There is so much mechanic that is not meant to be played by a dps player (who trades life for dps) that your last phrase is only applicable to normal base game dungeons at best.
Re: ESO needs a reboot in 2026 with a rollback of Subclassing
Twohothardware wrote: »At first I was willing to give subclassing a chance and it felt like it would be a welcome refresh to the game but now it just feels like there's only one class in the game and the way subclassing was even introduced just didn't make sense.
The game needs a reboot and a refocus back to what made ESO popular in the beginning. Unique play styles between the different classes and a separation between Stamina and Magicka focused builds again.
Hybridization and subclassing has only made the game have less and less build diversity to the point we're basically down to one or two builds because when you can just pick the top 5 best skills and put them together there's no reason to use all the rest.
ESO is just not fun as the game used to be and right now subclassing feels like a hodge podge of things thrown together rather than actual different classes and skills with depth.
We tried subclassing, it didn't really work out that well and my opinion is the game needs to find it's soul again and get back to where we started.
Agree or disagree
Disagree.
Mh. Why? You are not forced to subclassing and you can still play the original classes as they were meant to be.
That for high end game and scorepushing: It was always like this that players had to go for one of the very few metas and with the introduction of the arcanist, a lot of such raid groups even explicitely requested interested players to have an arcanist and would not accept any other class. With subclassing at least this requirement is not as strong any more and opens up for other classes provided they got the right subclasses.
Re: Subclassing Appreciation
twisttop138 wrote: »The point about if it should be rolled back or not is moot. It's brought division and caused us to lose people as much as it's maybe people who want to make thematically cool builds happy. It's helped bring people into mid tier raiding, what I think is the largest tier but it has also helped us to lose veterans who's game knowledge and raid experience including raid leading is a detrimental loss. These are the facts. There's no going back now, we play the hand we're dealt. We can make hate threads or glaze threads but it becomes what do we do about it. How do we fix it so many people are happy.
I don’t believe it is fair to assume that Subclassing is the primary reason players have left. This has been one of the lightest content years, maybe THE lightest year we’ve had.
Also; you know how we get down baaby!
Subclassing for life, yo.
I would point out that I never said it was the primary reason. Just that it was a reason for people leaving. I know this is a fact because I know some. I think this year in general has left a sour taste.
Also love the picture. Glazing is one of the young people words I learned from my teenagers. I like to throw them in there every once in awhile. I had actually typed lickspittle but thought that kind of insulting, as I wasn't just talking about you but the legion of threads for and against.
Re: Subclassing Appreciation
If you need Major Exp on Xalvakka then you have bigger problems aside from ignoring the salient point.
There’s no denying that in encounters where you need to move, and fast, like the Sload or Assembly General execute, being able to get there quick helps people set up their rotation much faster, and protects people who are distracted for half a second.
How could I, there isn’t a “vast vast” majority of high-end raid groups to begin with.
Year after year, groups have cannibalized themselves. Making the content less fun, and less approachable. Only now am I beginning to see people enjoying raids again, and that’s entirely due to the fact that the right people are running the show.
You don't need to move quick. You only need to have an understanding of DoT damage.
Again, you keep speaking from a personal pov. That isn't what the majority see.
Re: Can we do something about Mudcrab Chitin?
YandereGirlfriend wrote: »They wouldn't have made the change if it wasn't for its stature as a major pain point in the player economy. The change in refining method was simply the lever they chose to pull to correct the price.
The didn't do it for the economy. The pain point was in golding jewellery.
Re: Can we do something about Mudcrab Chitin?
YandereGirlfriend wrote: »That's what people said about Chromium as well but then the sledgehammer was brought down on the entire market to forcibly drop prices.
No reason why that logic shouldn't also apply to other stupidly expensive mats like Dreugh Wax, Columbine, and Chitin.
The change was made because it was too rare to get grains to then make into plating. The consequence was a market crash on prices but that isn't why it was done.
Mudcrab Chitin is ubiquitous. I do not buy it nor farm it, and the only use I have for it is the daily writ quest. I have 400+ just from playing the game.
Re: I am enjoying the Writhing Fortress and want to see it Memorialized
I am not against it being memorialized. The special title can stay only for those who did it in time, and it will be fair. But the fighting in the fortress was epic, it would be sad if it completly goes away.
Re: I am enjoying the Writhing Fortress and want to see it Memorialized
I’d just like the fortress to actually work!
Re: [Suggestion] Make All Quests Repeatable
frogthroat wrote: »SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »Apologies, but I really don’t understand why creating a new character would not be a solution?
And would this not make things hideously complicated?
Zone stories can give skill points. Skill points are needed for a build. There are many zone stories I have done fast to get the skill points and then when I want to listen to the actual story I find I have already done it with all the characters for the skill points.
It was your choice. You should have been reading the quests.
Re: [Suggestion] Make All Quests Repeatable
Only if you can also turn the quest symbols off once done otherwise it would seriously trigger my ocd
