It's been like that since GR. The new launcher is a resource monster.

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

I am leaning towards they will just ignore those particular details. So many of the popular NPCs that I have seen mentioned (by the player base) are often the ones who ARE like Razum-Dar, where they seem the type for flings, or, they already have someone in lore! (or should :P Thinking about Revus here )

I was excited when I thought they would bring companion romance, but even in Single player games, I never really liked the idea of romancing random NPCs who will just stay where they are, and I then have to go back to them. I always preferred companion romances where I can bring the companion with me. *sigh* Not sure if they are going to be able to do it justice. I am also afraid that if they stick the companions in with the rest of the NPCs, even the companion romance options are going to be lacking.

It does seem likely they would ignore a character's previous lore in order to make them romanceable, which I think is a pity. It also seems like they are trying to take on too much at once, with adding fan favorites or certain npcs to the romance system, when they haven't even gotten it up and running for companions yet. I would prefer if they would start with companions, make a really good and deep romance system, and then figure out how to add the Razum-dars and Verandises of the game to it. I've enjoyed the romance systems in other, single player games, but I never considered that such a system would really fit in the MMO world. Hopefully ZOS can pull it off!

shadoza wrote: »

disky wrote: »

ESO_player123 wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

ESO_player123 wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

Not inclusive. Where is the RPG players, the solo runners, the base new players in all these grand plans to appease the power happy? When was the last time you heard the development team promise new delves, public dungeons, or story based material. I didn't purchase the new chapter because all I heard promised was two dungeons and a trial. Group play.

The "chapter" this year includes the same 6 delves and 2 public dungeons. 3 delves and 1 public dungeon are available right now (been there, done them). The rest will be accessible when the wall that divides the island is destroyed (quarter 4 update I think). At least that is what I heard. The zone is definitely much smaller (which is very sad), but it does have all the side quests and the main story.

shadoza wrote: »

I think the people who complain about needing more difficulty are the same players that farm in newb zones like Bal Foyen. I saw two there this day each were over 2800 CP. They were not doing a quest, they were racing from one resource node to another, completing with low levels and each other. One of the two worked the same area for more than 20 minutes so it wasn't a casual find.

Farming is a traditional part of MMOs. Nothing is wrong with that. Those 2800 CP also bought the game and have the right to all the zones. If you were seeing bots then that would warrant a complaint for sure. For context: I just created my first toon on PCEU a couple of days ago. Very slow at everything (drives me nuts), but I did not have any issues with finding resources/competing with someone (and at this stage with an empty craft bag I collect everything that is not nailed down).

So you dismiss my experience and use your own to support your claim? Is that what you are doing here.

My recent experience was included to highlight that I'm talking not only from the perspective of a high CP player but also as a kind of a "new" one. I put new in quotation marks because it's new in a sense that I have an empty craft bag, no movement speed, no CP, and no money, but I do have experience and knowledge where to get those. But you also have it since you've been playing longer than I do if I remember correctly from your posts.

My experience does not change the fact that farming is a part of any MMO, and 2800 CP player have a right to be in starter zones. If they are collecting staff without purposefully targeting you (as in swiping a node directly from under you or grabbing a chest near which you've been fighting mobs) then they are playing the game just like you. If they are doing what I described in () then it has nothing to with them being high CP, it's just their personal trait.

And what's even more ridiculous about this point is that it seems to act as if farmers are terrorizing these zones. As if they're all over the place and it's some farming nightmare wherever you go. Farming is a very specific activity and if you're going to be farming, you're almost certainly going to be in specific areas that are kind of built for it. You're going to have an idea of where to go and what to do. Farming is employed by people who want power fast, and those are the kind of people who will look up a guide which tells them where to be when doing it. This is a non-issue.

It may be a 'non-issue' to you, but to those whose progress in the game is being delayed or thwarted, it is an issue.
What party of Massive Multiplayer Online says "farming?" I do not hold issues with players picking up resources as the find them but that is not what they were doing. Farming is not the simple act of collecting resources as you find them. Farming is a deliberate and willful movement to grab resources to sell.

You can dismiss it in your world but in the real world, it is a problem when base gamers cannot play without being interfered with. This is a reason why people move on to other games. What you suggest is that if a new player needs a resource to create a weapon or armor part, they should stand about for 20+ minutes while a 2800 CP player moved around the area collecting resources as they spawn at a speed a newb cannot match. It was not a bot. It was a rude player who could have easily collected those resources in a more competitive zone.

Collecting and selling mats is a part of the game and a legitimate way to make coin (the trading part). That is unless they are botting, but you said they were not bots.

I like to farm mats on Khenarthi's Roost when I'm low on heartwood/mandane runes (and I like the vibe of the island).I'm not a member of any guild (and have never been), so I do not have an easy way to sell anything. I collect mats for myself, so I could make my own gold gear and make housing builds. I've done this when I was a complete noob and I do it now. It's a part of the game.

I like the story of 'The Forgotten Crypts' in Deshaan, when it takes a very dark turn.

shadoza wrote: »

disky wrote: »

ESO_player123 wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

ESO_player123 wrote: »

shadoza wrote: »

Not inclusive. Where is the RPG players, the solo runners, the base new players in all these grand plans to appease the power happy? When was the last time you heard the development team promise new delves, public dungeons, or story based material. I didn't purchase the new chapter because all I heard promised was two dungeons and a trial. Group play.

The "chapter" this year includes the same 6 delves and 2 public dungeons. 3 delves and 1 public dungeon are available right now (been there, done them). The rest will be accessible when the wall that divides the island is destroyed (quarter 4 update I think). At least that is what I heard. The zone is definitely much smaller (which is very sad), but it does have all the side quests and the main story.

shadoza wrote: »

I think the people who complain about needing more difficulty are the same players that farm in newb zones like Bal Foyen. I saw two there this day each were over 2800 CP. They were not doing a quest, they were racing from one resource node to another, completing with low levels and each other. One of the two worked the same area for more than 20 minutes so it wasn't a casual find.

Farming is a traditional part of MMOs. Nothing is wrong with that. Those 2800 CP also bought the game and have the right to all the zones. If you were seeing bots then that would warrant a complaint for sure. For context: I just created my first toon on PCEU a couple of days ago. Very slow at everything (drives me nuts), but I did not have any issues with finding resources/competing with someone (and at this stage with an empty craft bag I collect everything that is not nailed down).

So you dismiss my experience and use your own to support your claim? Is that what you are doing here.

My recent experience was included to highlight that I'm talking not only from the perspective of a high CP player but also as a kind of a "new" one. I put new in quotation marks because it's new in a sense that I have an empty craft bag, no movement speed, no CP, and no money, but I do have experience and knowledge where to get those. But you also have it since you've been playing longer than I do if I remember correctly from your posts.

My experience does not change the fact that farming is a part of any MMO, and 2800 CP player have a right to be in starter zones. If they are collecting staff without purposefully targeting you (as in swiping a node directly from under you or grabbing a chest near which you've been fighting mobs) then they are playing the game just like you. If they are doing what I described in () then it has nothing to with them being high CP, it's just their personal trait.

And what's even more ridiculous about this point is that it seems to act as if farmers are terrorizing these zones. As if they're all over the place and it's some farming nightmare wherever you go. Farming is a very specific activity and if you're going to be farming, you're almost certainly going to be in specific areas that are kind of built for it. You're going to have an idea of where to go and what to do. Farming is employed by people who want power fast, and those are the kind of people who will look up a guide which tells them where to be when doing it. This is a non-issue.

It may be a 'non-issue' to you, but to those whose progress in the game is being delayed or thwarted, it is an issue.
What party of Massive Multiplayer Online says "farming?" I do not hold issues with players picking up resources as the find them but that is not what they were doing. Farming is not the simple act of collecting resources as you find them. Farming is a deliberate and willful movement to grab resources to sell.

You can dismiss it in your world but in the real world, it is a problem when base gamers cannot play without being interfered with. This is a reason why people move on to other games. What you suggest is that if a new player needs a resource to create a weapon or armor part, they should stand about for 20+ minutes while a 2800 CP player moved around the area collecting resources as they spawn at a speed a newb cannot match. It was not a bot. It was a rude player who could have easily collected those resources in a more competitive zone.

Farming is a legitimate activity in the game and it's intended gameplay by the developers. They even give you incentives to farm, including weekly and daily endeavors for picking x amounts of mats. Everyone, including the 2800s, are allowed to play in a zone. There's no such thing as a zone intended solely for newbies. There used to be, Balfiera, and that was only during the first tutorial mission. But it has since been removed as it wasn't working.

People selling mats is not only intended. But it's actually hugely helpful to a lot of new players because they often prefer to buy mats instead of picking themselves since they often want to learn the combat stuff first before worrying about things like builds, mats, etc. They also often get stuff for free from guild mates which would not be possible without farmers.

Mothers sorrow is a crit set. The reason you wear mothers sorrow is for crit rating.

Total crit rating for Sorrow : 2842

Total crit rating for Highland Sentinel WITH NO STACKS : 2957

Highland has more crit with no stacks. Even if you have no stacks, it's better than sorrow and you can have it in any armour weight.

Leviathan is the same set as Sorrow, so it's ALSO bad. No one should use these sets now that Highland exists.

I've already made the point that Spider cultist is worse at buffing force pulse than Tide-Born. 600 spell damage is not as good as 12% damage done to monsters, and spider cult only buffs destro staff skills.

These old sets are very easy to compare, because they are just straight up numbers. It's not some fancy proc or condition or whatever where you need to compare something.

one set has bigger numbers and that set is better.

further more, both sets are crafted sets, the easiest set to obtain. I'll make anyone a set of purple tide-born or highland in any weight with any non-nirn trait they want.

The old sets need to be looked at.
Spider Cult should be STOMPING tide-born for damage done with force pulse. It does one thing and it does it poorly.

This is gas lighting



This statement is demonstrably false.

There is no situation where anyone should use Spider Cult. Not PvP, not overland, not dungeons, not trials.

This is not the only set in the game where we can point to the fact that no one should use it. Ever. It's just the first example that came to mind.

aza_sel wrote: »

ive got the master angler already, but for the other achievement, the Commemorative Master Angler (argonian house boat, housing) i need the IC, there are only a few fishing spots there.
though i level up sharp-as night to get the keepsake, im afraid that im the most time resurrecting somewhere. ok, ill get up in the night, my time 2 or 3 o clock, fishing in cyro was hard enough, but i have to go to the IC with champion points active.
or take the IC master angler out of this achievement. im not interested in PVP.
people who are interested in housing need at first eso-plus, furnishing plans and mats and gold to buy them.
ive seen now, the plan for the tide born sculpture coral is available for 1,4 millions. i dont know how much gold youve got, i can buy that plan easily but i dont want to support this. im occupied with get gold, get plans and get mats. thats exhausting enough. and also to get the achievements in PVE, to buy furniture.
thats why.

and believe me: its easier farming mats in PVE zones

I got IC Master Fisher before Arteum Pickled Fish Bowl and other buffs during a Midyear Mayhem in prime time. I have screenshots of fishing with all 3 factions. Yes, I got ganked a few times, but I caught all rare fish in under an hour and a half.

aza_sel wrote: »

ShutUpitsRed wrote: »

aza_sel wrote: »

at first i want to correct a typing error "and i just want that the devs do something for people who dont want to do pve" should be pvp instead of pve.

im a sister and no ja'khajiit anymore i dont mind about fishing as others do. but fishing requires some skills like patience, but it doesnt require pvp. yes by design and i understand that ZOS wants to make money, but why do they annoy people in that way? im not interested in playing tribute, so i dont do these achievements. the boat from kynes aegis ive got, and i buy at crown network housing items for gold. i dont mind to check urns or do dailies, got 91% of furnishing plans and bought a plan for 10 mio also. i dont mind about farming for furnishing mats. fishing there are 2 pvp zones out of 44 if i counted right, are the 5% necessary? if it would be the half or more id say i dont need it

You understand the game isn't about you and what you want, right? There are millions of other people playing this game, many of who play and enjoy PvP. It's frustrating that some content is a reward for activities you don't want to do but no offense, it's fishing. Many, many other achievements with desirable rewards are locked behind difficult PvE content a lot of people don't want to do; that's why carries exist. Pay a small PvP group to escort you for your fishing? Take the advice of the people in this thread, since fishing in PvP zones is usually pretty easy?

I should start a thread about making trial mounts available for tel var since I'm personally not interested in doing trials and don't want to waste my time slogging through robot mechanics and overstimulating arcanist/templar laser show.

and: if i want to play pvp then i buy or use counter strike, whatever, eso isnt just for pvp.
and: do pvp content, i dont mind about that, its ok, as i said i know some pvp player i support with gold or mats.
and, at last: " the game isn't about you and what you want, right? There are millions of other people playing this game, many of who play and enjoy PvP. "
eso got its credits not from pvp but from skyrim, oblivion, morrowind, daggerfall and arena, but maybe you are to young to know

In the time you have taken to reply to this thread, you could have gotten the IC fishing achievement, even if you got killed a couple of times while doing it.

People have given you helpful tips to make it easier, too.

If you go there and are killed while fishing, what is the problem? You can respawn at the base, go to a different district and continue fishing there, as all fish a foul fish.