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Re: The new house (Night's Den) doesn't hold a candle to the Hall of the Lunar Champion
twisttop138 wrote: »I like the Night's Den more. Love the house and it's special features. I haven't really bothered with my Elsewyr house.
The house also excited me enough to do my very first ESO trial in 6 years for that 150 favor. Ezabi is not happy this vault isn't open yet.
This is so awesome to hear! I'm so curious. Did you enjoy it? Would you do other trials?
As for the house, I think it's cool and furnished well. It's different for sure and will have guild bank access I hear. Definitely a must have.
I enjoyed the Trial a lot. I was farming a lot of Night Market so I was part of many PUGS trying to figure out mechanics, which means I spent way more time doing it than friends who just did it after there were more guides available.
I think I spent about 10 hours on it when people didn't really know anything. My friend took 1.5 hours total when everyone already knew what to do.
So, I was frustrated at first but I felt a lot of accomplishment. I would do more trials moving ahead and figuring out what I am missing as a healer to be more valuable.
As a soloer/rper I was a bit daunted by trials because I didn't want to be the player that caused it to fail, and I know in other games a "bad healer" means the raid fails. But I'm more encouraged now for sure.
Re: Concerns About ESO’s Future Direction and Solo Player Experience
We know this may come off as a contentious statement, but it does bear repeating. While we are an Elder Scrolls game, we are also an MMO. Storytelling and the heart of solo adventure will always be an important part of ESO. However, some of our event/ event zone content will be focused on encouraging group play. It is the nature of the genre. Additionally, we know just like there are players who come for solo content, there are also players who come for group content and challenging group content. So we want to make sure we are providing new things for them as well.
And I think there is the problem. The definition of an MMO isn't the same as it was 20 years ago.. Not many are built around the idea of the "require a group" anymore. They are mostly starting to go grouping is optional. And there needs to be a way and to take the time to figure out how to design things to be both casual and hardcore friendly at the same time. Not just one or the other.
Mission
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Re: Whats the point of the PTS
MachineGod wrote: »Night market buggy bosses don't die ability's don't work an new mythic broken as hell. Why have it seems like wasted recourses?
I don't know, Could it be feedback like this simply does not help at all? All vague points with no actual meaningful points for ZOS to consider. So if they come across this thread it's basically:
What bosses? (No information provided)
What abilites don't work? (No information provided)
What exactly do you mean by the new mythic is "broken as hell"? (Unclear, No information provided)
"Why wont they read my post?!?
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you have the internet look it up. its all bosses an all ability's im not your teacher like do you even play the game? [snip]
So... instead of making detailed arguments and exact grievances of what exactly you think is wrong with the PTS cycle you tell people to "look it up online".... meanwhile you complain that "your" opinion is not heard...then when others indicate that your post should provide some additional insights you accuse them of being malicious...
Exactly who is rage baiting here?
Keep in mind that opinions are a dime a dozen and most people think that theirs is the most important one in the universe and it will never actually quite be the same as yours. So please do us a favor....
If your gonna complain about how something is horribly awful, please do us the courtesy of explaining and expressing Exactly why it is so with enough information to be helpful. Otherwise dont be upset when you tell someone to "go look it up" and be further disappointed when they change something to "fix" it and they fix the only thing you actually liked into something you didn't.
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Re: Concerns About ESO’s Future Direction and Solo Player Experience
@Athory Hey man sorry for the offtopic, i'm noticing you using this character " — " a lot across your forum posts, where are you getting it ? I can't find it on my keyboard
This explains so much lmao, good catch
Re: Concerns About ESO’s Future Direction and Solo Player Experience
@Athory More bolded text, you can do better, no? And swearing at me? Yikes.
I could do better but everyone else has already pointed everything out to you already and you won't listen. This is group content and was advertised as such. The rare cases where you could solo it, they gave HEAVY caveats about how that would look.
Not all content in an MMO is soloable. Are you also going to be sad you can't do vet trials and vet dungeons and all other kinds of vet, group content? I don't do all content either..... for example, cyrodiil and IC are pretty scary for me. But during PvP events, I find a group who enjoys that, and if I feel I want the FOMO sort of content/achieves (and can't just buy it from gold I acquired doing things I do like)- I get it and then go back to what I like more.
You can do the same. Maybe Night Market (which is its name, not sure why you keep saying "snip," It's very immature of you) isn't for you- and that's OK! Just...... don't do it?
Solo March of Sacrifices and Moon Hunter Keep are coming. Obviously solo players are still getting plenty of attention. But others have already TOLD you that.
I could do better but everyone else has already pointed everything out to you already and you won't listen. This is group content and was advertised as such. The rare cases where you could solo it, they gave HEAVY caveats about how that would look.
Not all content in an MMO is soloable. Are you also going to be sad you can't do vet trials and vet dungeons and all other kinds of vet, group content? I don't do all content either..... for example, cyrodiil and IC are pretty scary for me. But during PvP events, I find a group who enjoys that, and if I feel I want the FOMO sort of content/achieves (and can't just buy it from gold I acquired doing things I do like)- I get it and then go back to what I like more.
You can do the same. Maybe Night Market (which is its name, not sure why you keep saying "snip," It's very immature of you) isn't for you- and that's OK! Just...... don't do it?
Solo March of Sacrifices and Moon Hunter Keep are coming. Obviously solo players are still getting plenty of attention. But others have already TOLD you that.
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Re: Why is everyone so adverse to grouping for NM?
There are a lot of people grouping and running the content via guilds and group finder. Some will always complain. At least in my social guild, there was such demand this weekend that we had to run a group every day and it generally overflowed into a second one (or extra people tagged along when there wasn't someone to organize the second group). These are largely newer or casual players; though we run normal trials, this is not some hardcore endgame guild. We actually have not seen such a level of demand or participation by guildies in *anything* for a couple years.
Just because some people are posting repetitively and complaining (and perhaps people in their circles are doing so too) does not mean "the majority" doesn't want this content; just as its popularity in my social guild is anecdotal as well. In the end zos will of course look at the feedback, but also the actual numbers and judge the event's success (and what future changes might be in order) for themselves I imagine.
Personally I like it, though there are some issues that I brought up in the feedback thread. It's one of the more social and challenging things that's happened in a while. Glad they're trying new things because my opinion was that the game was becoming stagnant!
Just because some people are posting repetitively and complaining (and perhaps people in their circles are doing so too) does not mean "the majority" doesn't want this content; just as its popularity in my social guild is anecdotal as well. In the end zos will of course look at the feedback, but also the actual numbers and judge the event's success (and what future changes might be in order) for themselves I imagine.
Personally I like it, though there are some issues that I brought up in the feedback thread. It's one of the more social and challenging things that's happened in a while. Glad they're trying new things because my opinion was that the game was becoming stagnant!
Re: [Bug] 'Fractured Facets' Achievement - Faceted Foes may have stopped spawning in Night Market
They are definitely rare. I finally encountered a faceted foe (gold glowing lich) a couple days ago in Sorrow's Friend area, but I couldn't do anything about it because it had spawned inside a wall of a building/ruins. I could not hit him and he ended up just killing me. Was really unfair to finally see one and couldn't even get a chance to defeat it....
Re: The new house (Night's Den) doesn't hold a candle to the Hall of the Lunar Champion
I like the Night's Den more. Love the house and it's special features. I haven't really bothered with my Elsewyr house.
The house also excited me enough to do my very first ESO trial in 6 years for that 150 favor. Ezabi is not happy this vault isn't open yet.
This is so awesome to hear! I'm so curious. Did you enjoy it? Would you do other trials?
As for the house, I think it's cool and furnished well. It's different for sure and will have guild bank access I hear. Definitely a must have.
Re: Concerns About ESO’s Future Direction and Solo Player Experience
Unless we go off-topic… right. Then the topic will stay until 2099.
That's one thing I don't understand about this kind of threads. If you have so much free time and you want the NM rewards, you could've just helped your fellow solo questers by making a nontoxic quiet group for likeminded people. This way everyone would be happier.
Or, if you don't want any of the rewards, you could just not participate. Letting go of fomo greatly improves your gaming experience.
You don't even need to do that. Just travel to a guild mate or join a group, be polite and help them with like one boss, and then leave that group. Then you'll be in an instance where there are other players and you'll be able to know exactly which district they're in. You win and the group wins and you get to play mostly by yourself, if that's your preference. Most of the group finder groups people aren't even talking a lot in. It's mostly other casual and solo players who want to participate in the night market and can't do it without a group. They do not play with any sort of communication or coordination beyond maybe explaining mechanics during a skirmish.
I know some of the people leaving feedback about it being too difficult for a casual player have not actually tried to play that way because if they did they'd see that it's not at all like a vet trial. Rather they're going in there by themselves with builds that don't include much in the way of self defense and having a bad time because they're ending up in empty instances that they don't have the build to do alone.
Re: Concerns About ESO’s Future Direction and Solo Player Experience
MMOs & Groups:
Everquest had 72-player raids. That's 6 groups of 12.
And if you died, you didn't respawn with your gear - you had to run naked, from the last city you bound in, back to the same location in your raid before the monsters spawned. You had to revisit your body to loot your gear.
WoW had 40-man raids, then 10 & 25-man raids since WotLK. They've added other sizes since then.
MMOs have always had content demanding far larger groups than ESO ever has. The 4-man & 12-man teams in ESO are casual friendly; the Group Finder is casual friendly.
The Night Market is not Overland / Difficulty+ content. That stuff releases later this year.
The Night Market is more akin to a "pre-Trial" zone. You kill Bosses to unlock Dungeon Bosses; you kill Dungeon Bosses to reach the Trial. The "target audience" enjoying it are folks intimidated by Dungeons, Trials & Veteran content - suddenly realizing "oh hey, this isn't so bad". They see even "pros" die. They see that teamwork & rezzing folks means even a low-level can save the team. The zones have quests, races, puzzles that can be soloed - most mob packs too. I've killed a Boss with just 4 people (like any Dungeon).
The Night Market is not Overland.
The Night Market is a warm-up for Group/Dungeon/Trial content.
And it's a brilliant one, considering how many timid players are realizing "oh wow, I can totally do this".
Everquest had 72-player raids. That's 6 groups of 12.
And if you died, you didn't respawn with your gear - you had to run naked, from the last city you bound in, back to the same location in your raid before the monsters spawned. You had to revisit your body to loot your gear.
WoW had 40-man raids, then 10 & 25-man raids since WotLK. They've added other sizes since then.
MMOs have always had content demanding far larger groups than ESO ever has. The 4-man & 12-man teams in ESO are casual friendly; the Group Finder is casual friendly.
The Night Market is not Overland / Difficulty+ content. That stuff releases later this year.
The Night Market is more akin to a "pre-Trial" zone. You kill Bosses to unlock Dungeon Bosses; you kill Dungeon Bosses to reach the Trial. The "target audience" enjoying it are folks intimidated by Dungeons, Trials & Veteran content - suddenly realizing "oh hey, this isn't so bad". They see even "pros" die. They see that teamwork & rezzing folks means even a low-level can save the team. The zones have quests, races, puzzles that can be soloed - most mob packs too. I've killed a Boss with just 4 people (like any Dungeon).
The Night Market is not Overland.
The Night Market is a warm-up for Group/Dungeon/Trial content.
And it's a brilliant one, considering how many timid players are realizing "oh wow, I can totally do this".
