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Re: “Joining Encounter in Progress” should have a confirmation check
MasterSpatula wrote: »True but speedrunners aren't the ones constantly complaining and making posts here about people who go too slow.scrappy1342 wrote: »"they can make their own group" goes both ways.
A. They're the bad guys. The entire point of rewards for random dungeons is to get people into the queue so that those who need to do certain content can find people to do it with. Viewing the rewards as the sole point of doing randoms and thus disregarding the entire purpose you're there to fulfill is a short-sighted, self-involved, thoughtless way to behave.
B. The system favors them. See a chest? Ported away before you can loot it. Need to do dialogue on a base-game dungeon? Ported away before you can do so. Feel like skipping mobs is cheap and failing to actually engage with the content? Doesn't matter if three of you feel that way. All it takes is one person who only values speed. That one gets their way every. Single. Time.
What does a bad guy who's winning have to complain about?
It's amazing to me how many people have forgotten this or just don't care, but you're being rewarded for helping people. HELP THEM.
Negative, the bad guy is the person who needs to do the quest but doesn't speak up like an adult in group chat telling the group members that he needs to do the quest and then gets so bent out of shape when people just complete the content that he rage posts on the forums about speed runners.
The game's been out for 11 years so people assume the others are doing the run for transmutes or gear unless someone says they're doing the quest when we start. Notice this doesn't happen when a new dungeon comes out since it's assumed that people are doing the quest until the dungeon has been out for a while.
Re: “Joining Encounter in Progress” should have a confirmation check
True but speedrunners aren't the ones constantly complaining and making posts here about people who go too slow.scrappy1342 wrote: »"they can make their own group" goes both ways.
*CONSTANTLY* is it? Because no, it isn't constantly.
Also, if you weren't wildly exaggerating and it were? It would imply that the OP's complaint has merit - if as YOU state, so many others share that pov - vs the very few, again according to you, who prefer speedrunning.
Then the onus would be on the skipper to get their own group.
Or do you *actually* think it's more logical that people doing the dungeon as designed need to just shut up, than people queueing as tank and just doing whatever?
How does that make sense to you? Apply that faulty logic to anything else, you see where it fails.
Not just talking about the event, either.
More people may well be complaining about speedrunners robbing them of the chests, finishing encounters, etc idk I didn't take a poll; but that doesn't make their pov invalid, or wrong.
Islyn
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Re: PTS Update 48 - Bug Reports for Eastern Solstice (Zone, Quests, etc)
Any chance this new edition of The Worm Turns bug can get fixed before the PTS swaps to EU? It'd be really disappointing to do all that work to do all the side quests before the main quest only to lose it all to week 3 EU
Re: "Small Refine Method" AKA Time Wasting Pseudo Science Scam
I always just click the "Mass Refine" button that comes from Mass Deconstruct addon. Never checked the options for the refinement.
Now I checked. Hey, it has an option: "Refine full stacks" with default is off.
I usually leave my crafter just refine while I go do something else, but now I don't have to. Never given it much thought, tho.
Now I checked. Hey, it has an option: "Refine full stacks" with default is off.
I usually leave my crafter just refine while I go do something else, but now I don't have to. Never given it much thought, tho.
Re: "Small Refine Method" AKA Time Wasting Pseudo Science Scam
Been fighting this for years. Another forum user has the data. The only difference between small batch refining and mass batch has always only been the time it took to mass refine, with the very very rare exception of bugs.
But players are superstitious by nature. I know a player that insisted that lvl1 mats gave more gold tempers than any other mat.
But players are superstitious by nature. I know a player that insisted that lvl1 mats gave more gold tempers than any other mat.
Re: "Small Refine Method" AKA Time Wasting Pseudo Science Scam
Sorry to hear that. However...With the "small technique" I once refined 2.000+ Platinum without getting a single Chromium.
Being in small sizes or big chunks, such a terrible RNG shouldn't happen IMO.
(EDIT: I think I was near 4.000 refinement when it finally dropped. Only happened one time, but still... It's a huge bummer)
If it is truly random, this kind of bad luck should absolutely happen. Random does not mean uniformly distributed. Sometimes there might be 10 "jackpots" in a row, other times there might be a "dry spell" for 1000 mats.
In fact, if you would look at a list of random things, say, a 1000 die rolls or coin flips, you can easily see if it is truly thrown or if a human just wrote something random down because they couldn't be bothered to actually throw a die or a coin 1000 times. If the numbers are uniformly distributed with no more than maximum 7 same results in a row, it's probably human generated. If there's strange, long streaks in the mix, that is a good indication it is randomly generated.
That's why different music player providers have to tweak their "shuffle" function because truly random would not feel random.
Re: “Joining Encounter in Progress” should have a confirmation check
True but speedrunners aren't the ones constantly complaining and making posts here about people who go too slow.scrappy1342 wrote: »"they can make their own group" goes both ways.
A. They're the bad guys. The entire point of rewards for random dungeons is to get people into the queue so that those who need to do certain content can find people to do it with. Viewing the rewards as the sole point of doing randoms and thus disregarding the entire purpose you're there to fulfill is a short-sighted, self-involved, thoughtless way to behave.
B. The system favors them. See a chest? Ported away before you can loot it. Need to do dialogue on a base-game dungeon? Ported away before you can do so. Feel like skipping mobs is cheap and failing to actually engage with the content? Doesn't matter if three of you feel that way. All it takes is one person who only values speed. That one gets their way every. Single. Time.
What does a bad guy who's winning have to complain about?
It's amazing to me how many people have forgotten this or just don't care, but you're being rewarded for helping people. HELP THEM.
Re: “Joining Encounter in Progress” should have a confirmation check
The “Joining Encounter in Progress” port to dungeon bosses should have a confirmation check. Groups should be able to let their speedrunner die alone, without the certainty that their group will port in to help.
With a confirmation check, people who do want to skip the entire dungeon and get pulled from boss to boss can, and people who don’t want to don’t have to.
If the speed runner actually kills the final boss (or any along the way) and other group members are not there (or close enough), they will not get credit. So getting pulled into the encounter is a good thing if you are doing the dungeon to get credit for the kill and get your box. If the speed runner annoys you, you can always just stand there and watch them fight alone.
Re: PTS Update 48 - Bug Reports for Eastern Solstice (Zone, Quests, etc)
TenebrisEquitem wrote: »Talking to Skordo once inside Gristmung Hold during The Worm Turns quest does not progress the quest (on a non-template character that has completed all of the base game content, if that helps). Abandoned the quest and redid it, same result. Seems like the exact same issue that Prince Azah was having.
Oh hi, other person I saw sitting up there next to the gate.
Yeah so this quest is still super broken and I would just like to ask very nicely for it to be fixed as soon as possible because I have been wanting to get through this story on my main character for a week and if it takes until next week to get it fixed yet again and I don't actually get to do it until it goes Live I am either going to cry or throw my couch out a window. (Possibly both.)
Update if anyone's concerned about my mental health: I ended up taking a template alt through some old zone quests (Camlorn/Cath Bedraud, Rivenspire, and Summerset - skipping Coldharbour to dodge the quest-blocking bugs) and am now going through the new storyline with her. So my couch and windows are safe, and any crying done will be for other reasons.
Ilsabet
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