Playing pure class is not only weaker in realtion to suclassing but also in relation the class they were before subclassing existed. Due to subclassing literally having no restrictons on borrowed skill lines and giving nothing in return to pure classes and only taking away due to "balance" it makes such a nothing burger.

Subclassing also does not feel like a "sub" classsing but "multi" classing. No skill line is a "sub" line of class - they are all equal and choosing 3 DPS line is obviosly OP. You don't have to have spreadsheet to calculate that! DPS + DPS + DPS = DPSx3.

Subclassing will never be balanced in a way ZoS is approching it now. Subclassing should have skill line restrictions or buff to classes.
Some ideas that are easier to implement than balance (which is impossible):
- You can only subclass ONE skill line,
- You can borrow two but with no passives,
- You can borrow two but passives have half of the value,
- Your own class skill lines passives values are enhanced,
- Your own class skill lines passvies work for ALL class skill not only skill lines in which they're are included; example
From:
- Casting *SKILL LINE NAME* ability while are in combat generates 4 Ultimate.
To:
- Casting *CLASS* ability while are in combat generates 4 Ultimate.

I would also say something about the beam but I don't want to be threatened.

All I ever really hoped for is that overland simply be adjusted to a universal point (none of this multi levels of difficulty) where any player, regardless of level/cp, would be well advised to find a safe place to park it should they have to afk for a bit. Basically any location not within a couple steps of a major road or wayshrine should require the player to at least be aware of their surroundings.

Simply for the immersion factor. Not for greater challenges or tougher battles. Not for the glory. Just for the immersion. Because as it is now, any player can just walk away from their controller/keyboard long enough to step out for a leisurely cup of coffee, come back, and find their character being pounded on by local monsters and not even getting scratched. Or a pile of corpses littered around if their companion was summoned.

fizzybeef wrote: »

First of all, im not treating ESO as a solo player game, i play all types of multiplayer content only. For solo games i have other games.
While i was excited for subclassing first and it was fun first, it just bores me now. Everyone has the same build in pvp and in pve it´s kinda the same aswell.
There is no variation, just the same meta sets and skill lines. Boring.

Im on PS EU there is no high population anymore. While spots like belkarth, mournhold or eldenroot were always well populated, nowadays these hotspots are just low populated, not much going on.
I try to queue for dungeons as a tank, its taking ages. I try to find hosted trials, its not happening. Battlegrounds taking ages, cyrodiil has as most 2 bars in the evening, the prime time is from 7-9pm after and before that its dead.

Im aware there are multiple instances in open world, but nobody can sell me im always in the empty instance.
It just feels less and more and more becoming a ghosttown, except maybe on weekends or certain events.

There is 5 big guilds im in, multiple trader guilds, social guilds and a pvp guild, of 500 members there are at most 60-70 online on the weekend at the evening, not much chatting and not much going on.
First i thought it was guild related, but i joined other popular guilds and its the same.
Also a lot of friends i used to play with have stopped and not been online for months.

Really i cant enjoy the game like this anymore, i dont want to run alone and spend my free time waiting in queues because nobody is playing anymore. So i wonder if its time to move on, thought i dont really want too, i play since release and love the game and spend a fortune of money in it.

I just wonder what happened, where are all the players gone and what has lead to this ?

in my opinion, the dumbing down of the game has driven away the community. allow me to elaborate on what i mean.

back in the day, we had classes, roles, specs. when they introduced hybridization, it was touted as a feature that would INCREASE the options for playing the game. this did the opposite tho, and reduced the amount of viable specs for people to play. also i would like to point out this is unfinished, we still have problems with crit buffs (sorc/nb) and problems with minor sorc/brutality. like.... if you're a magsorc, you get the mag crit buff, but then you might be mostly stam, so you will run stam pots, which means you dont get the passive buff on your crit percentages. the system is not finished and it creates problems still.

now we have subclassing. again, touted as giving us more options to play.... but in reality... there are now 3 builds to run in pvp. we went from people having 18 characters with 1-8 specs for each one..... to 18 characters, with 16 of them being useless and a total of 3 builds to play.

then you have the policing of the game. people are victims of a terrible ban system. people get banned for nothing and rarely is it ever investigated. its super toxic, and pathetic.

the grind. the grind in this game is terrible. whats the solution? pay 50 bucks per skill line. disguesting.

gaslighting. we get gaslit so much as a community that we do not trust the company anymore. they make ea look good. examples of this are like ummmm 2022? the year they took off to fix bugs? still stuck in combat. psijic ult still doesnt work (a paid feature mind you). queue is still glitching out. you said you would fix rush of agony and its still broken. you said you'd fix the weave with jabs and you ruined it. i could go on and on but its a waste of time, everyone knows.

feedback. i have seen so much GOOD and WELL THOUGHT OUT FEEDBACK get thrown into the trash it blows my mind. there are like 5 smart people that used to come on here.... you could literally let them balance the game for FREE.... but they dont listen to the community and they push terrible changes down the pipe.... and look where it got us.

crossplay. crossplay will make the game feel populated but the underlying issues will still drive people away, being a futile endeavor.

i can fix this, but its gonna cause an uproar. its simple. roll back the patch. admit that its bad design, allow subclassing to happen in duels/arenas/pve areas and make a seperate leaderboard for it. go back to what we had before, but allow subclassing to exist in a vaccuum.

you could try to balance it.... but thats a fools errand. subclassing killed all the flavor of the game, and people will still leave. to balance it, remove the passives from subclassed skill trees. you can have incap and merciless resolve, but you cant get the 10% crit damage buff unless you're a nightblade. also ensure that every class has a good dps passive. some classes have poor buffs in comparison to assassination and the beam tree.

I always go to The Rift. In all honesty, because I don’t know where the vampire and werewolf shrines are except in the Rift. But the proximity to Hunter’s Glade is indeed nice, I always port to the house if I’m going to go bite someone. The enemies are great for when I need to get ult so I can… yk… be werewolf hahaha.

The new house looks extremely exciting to me, so I am not going to complain about how it looks or it's themes and name. But I am going to complain that there still isn't more alinor structural furnishings to use in it.