Turelus: Exploit in ESO on how to farm <snip>.
Turelus: Someone just explained how on the forums as well.
ESO Player: i love exploits
Turelus: I hate them with a passion, and ZOS are pathetic at dealing with them.
Turelus: I was so angry when all of the <snip> members exploited the <snip> bug.
ESO Player:
ESO Player: why? why do u hate them?
Turelus: It's cheating.
Turelus: I always found it funny that people would cry about <snip> exploiting. However would glitch <snip> and farm thousands and free hides.
Turelus: Or cry <snip> jump over keep walls, yet use the NB shadow image exploit.
Turelus: Personally I wanted to remove every member of <snip> I knew who abused the wax one. However I had <snip> (as a leader) teaching people so...
ESO Player: because u r so narrow minded
Turelus: No, because I actually follow the ToS/EULA as I want a fair and fun game.
ESO Player: exploits for me is a rebel action... and too much clever
ESO Player: for me.. when u can use the game u just do...
Turelus: Any other MMO I have played people would be banned for this kind of stuff.
ESO Player: its not my job to respect gitches... my job is that im given an environment and i use it the best as i can
Turelus: heh.
Turelus: I never expected that from you TBH.
ESO Player: now.. if zos dont fix them.. or if there r no concequences for that.. thats not my problem
ESO Player: u should have expected it...
ESO Player: the reason i do not exploit.. is that i dont know how..
Turelus: I'm sad to hear that.
ESO Player: and i always fond fascinating how ppl find these things..
ESO Player: i consider them really clever
ESO Player: why? because u go by the rules... even if there r no rules
Turelus: There are rules.
Turelus: They're in the ToS/EULA.
Turelus: Which you agree to when you join.
Turelus: The problem is ZOS doesn't enforce them.
ESO Player: i have agreed in RL rules too.. but they ALWAYS exploit them...
ESO Player: others .. ON ME!
ESO Player: a rule that is not enforced is NOT a rule my friend
Just to be clear here ZOS. This is an actual conversation I just had with another player. This is the mentality your lack of action has caused within this game.
I've snipped the names/exploits but otherwise these logs as was.Turelus: Exploit in ESO on how to farm <snip>.
Turelus: Someone just explained how on the forums as well.
ESO Player: i love exploits
Turelus: I hate them with a passion, and ZOS are pathetic at dealing with them.
Turelus: I was so angry when all of the <snip> members exploited the <snip> bug.
ESO Player:
ESO Player: why? why do u hate them?
Turelus: It's cheating.
Turelus: I always found it funny that people would cry about <snip> exploiting. However would glitch <snip> and farm thousands and free hides.
Turelus: Or cry <snip> jump over keep walls, yet use the NB shadow image exploit.
Turelus: Personally I wanted to remove every member of <snip> I knew who abused the wax one. However I had <snip> (as a leader) teaching people so...
ESO Player: because u r so narrow minded
Turelus: No, because I actually follow the ToS/EULA as I want a fair and fun game.
ESO Player: exploits for me is a rebel action... and too much clever
ESO Player: for me.. when u can use the game u just do...
Turelus: Any other MMO I have played people would be banned for this kind of stuff.
ESO Player: its not my job to respect gitches... my job is that im given an environment and i use it the best as i can
Turelus: heh.
Turelus: I never expected that from you TBH.
ESO Player: now.. if zos dont fix them.. or if there r no concequences for that.. thats not my problem
ESO Player: u should have expected it...
ESO Player: the reason i do not exploit.. is that i dont know how..
Turelus: I'm sad to hear that.
ESO Player: and i always fond fascinating how ppl find these things..
ESO Player: i consider them really clever
ESO Player: why? because u go by the rules... even if there r no rules
Turelus: There are rules.
Turelus: They're in the ToS/EULA.
Turelus: Which you agree to when you join.
Turelus: The problem is ZOS doesn't enforce them.
ESO Player: i have agreed in RL rules too.. but they ALWAYS exploit them...
ESO Player: others .. ON ME!
ESO Player: a rule that is not enforced is NOT a rule my friend
Also as a reminder to others posting. Please do not talk openly about current exploits here. I was this thread to be about how ZOS deal with them, not what they currently are.
KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »If you can do it then you should. It's up to the creator to patch the exploits and glitches. Don't punish the users for sloppy development. Mass abuse of the exploits will also incentivize the creator to fix it faster. It is known.
Band Camp statements: To state "But this one time I saw X doing X... so that justifies X" Refers to the Band camp statement.
Coined by Maxwell
Band Camp statements: To state "But this one time I saw X doing X... so that justifies X" Refers to the Band camp statement.
Coined by Maxwell
The problem is that banningpaying customers isn't the best way to make money for your business
The exploit that's been going around requires using some stuff from the crown store, so if they get banned they might do a charge back, things like that
Also it means losing revenue...
KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »If you can do it then you should. It's up to the creator to patch the exploits and glitches. Don't punish the users for sloppy development. Mass abuse of the exploits will also incentivize the creator to fix it faster. It is known.
Hi guys, it's OK to discuss rules enforcement in general, but please do not bring up specific examples. This includes discussing your own warnings, suspensions, bans, et cetera. As covered in the forum rules, discussing disciplinary actions like this on the forums is not acceptable. Some posts have been removed. We have a commitment to keeping disciplinary acts private, and will not discuss actions taken on any account. This creates issues if others are discussing them. We are unable to clarify anything, or confirm or deny. These topics also tend to attract other problems, which is a further reason we do not allow them.
We'll also note that we do not allow the specifics of exploits to be discussed on the forums, and we want to thank everyone in this thread for not doing so.
KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »I love the TOS defense or as I like to call it, the "Goody Two Shoes" defense. Let me guess. You do exactly 30mph in a 30mph zone too.
Should I have gotten banned for fishing in Wrothgar too because it yielded double fish? Clearly that wasn't intended.
@ZOS_AlanG
Except you MUST finally make a stand on what your policy towards cheating actually is, and then you MUST stick to it!
The ambiguity MUST stop, and it must stop NOW!
The phrase "Can result in disciplinary action." is no longer acceptable from management.
dimensional wrote: »@ZOS_AlanG
Except you MUST finally make a stand on what your policy towards cheating actually is, and then you MUST stick to it!
The ambiguity MUST stop, and it must stop NOW!
The phrase "Can result in disciplinary action." is no longer acceptable from management.
You MUST calm down. They DON'T have to do a single thing you demand of them. Your use of BOLD and CAPS doesn't make them do what you want.