Do you think there should be an AoE cap?
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Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭kill aoe spamballs... just suppress aoe or decrease it's power enough to make them unefficient.
wether they are 5 or 50 brainless spammers does not change anything.
Before anyone believes this person is for helping smallscale / soloist players, think again. I guaranteee you this is not even half of his group, he usually runs with 30-40+ people for one raid.
brainless spammers eh ?
http://s3.postimg.org/f3j3nuosz/Prootch_1.jpg
Name and shame I know, but this guy is such a hypocrite xDEdited by Master_Kas on November 28, 2015 9:13PMEU | PC14 -
PainfulFAFA✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoMaster_Kas wrote: »kill aoe spamballs... just suppress aoe or decrease it's power enough to make them unefficient.
wether they are 5 or 50 brainless spammers does not change anything.
Before anyone believes this person is for helping smallscale / soloist players, think again. I guaranteee you this is not even half of his group, he usually runs with 30-40+ people for one raid.
brainless spammers eh ?
http://s3.postimg.org/f3j3nuosz/Prootch_1.jpg
Name and shame I know, but this guy is such a hypocrite xD
It all makes sense now.
Zergling defending his right to zerg in the safety of his numbers lol!
Edited by PainfulFAFA on November 28, 2015 9:15PM8 -
Etaniel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoPainfulFAFA wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »kill aoe spamballs... just suppress aoe or decrease it's power enough to make them unefficient.
wether they are 5 or 50 brainless spammers does not change anything.
Before anyone believes this person is for helping smallscale / soloist players, think again. I guaranteee you this is not even half of his group, he usually runs with 30-40+ people for one raid.
brainless spammers eh ?
http://s3.postimg.org/f3j3nuosz/Prootch_1.jpg
Name and shame I know, but this guy is such a hypocrite xD
It all makes sense now.
Zergling defending his right to zerg in the safety of his numbers lol!
Well, to be fair, i think zerging the way he does creates less lag than stacking on crown, and it's more fun to fight that type of group.0 -
Lava_Croft✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No
Everybody that's honest knows that the most lag comes from highly organized AoE spam groups. This not a jab at those groups in general, but more a jab at all the people claiming 'zergs' cause the most lag.PainfulFAFA wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »kill aoe spamballs... just suppress aoe or decrease it's power enough to make them unefficient.
wether they are 5 or 50 brainless spammers does not change anything.
Before anyone believes this person is for helping smallscale / soloist players, think again. I guaranteee you this is not even half of his group, he usually runs with 30-40+ people for one raid.
brainless spammers eh ?
http://s3.postimg.org/f3j3nuosz/Prootch_1.jpg
Name and shame I know, but this guy is such a hypocrite xD
It all makes sense now.
Zergling defending his right to zerg in the safety of his numbers lol!
Well, to be fair, i think zerging the way he does creates less lag than stacking on crown, and it's more fun to fight that type of group.
Edited by Lava_Croft on November 29, 2015 9:46AM1 -
Xiphyla✭✭✭PainfulFAFA wrote: »kill aoe spamballs... just suppress aoe or decrease it's power enough to make them unefficient.
wether they are 5 or 50 brainless spammers does not change anything.
Removing aoes entirely would make people stack up even more than they do today..... Stack 24 people together so that no one is targetable in the group, gg. Wouldn't be able to kill anyone anymore.
The 50 brainless aoe spammers will get anihilated waaaay faster without aoe caps. This will directly affect performance, not because of calculations or whatever, simply because groups will die faster so they will lag the server for shorter periods of time.
Great mind thinks alike. Sadly some people are just pure funny regarding removing aoe caps.
Theres are players saying to keep the AoE Cap and just reduce the AoE damage... LOL
Hope it will change someday
regarding total removal of aoe cap. Edited by Xiphyla on November 29, 2015 5:31PMAD : DiE (Inactive)
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StoneSlayer✭✭✭Nokill aoe spamballs... just suppress aoe or decrease it's power enough to make them unefficient.
wether they are 5 or 50 brainless spammers does not change anything.
Worst possible outcome, even worse than it is now. Complete removal of AOE caps might save the game. What you suggested would make it so much worse.Edited by StoneSlayer on December 4, 2015 9:27AMDragonknight Master Race!
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Nafirian✭✭✭✭✭NoMaster_Kas wrote: »kill aoe spamballs... just suppress aoe or decrease it's power enough to make them unefficient.
wether they are 5 or 50 brainless spammers does not change anything.
Before anyone believes this person is for helping smallscale / soloist players, think again. I guaranteee you this is not even half of his group, he usually runs with 30-40+ people for one raid.
brainless spammers eh ?
http://s3.postimg.org/f3j3nuosz/Prootch_1.jpg
Name and shame I know, but this guy is such a hypocrite xD
MUST NOT SPAM AOE!!!!! Must run single target 50 man raid.0 -
MisterBigglesworth✭✭✭✭✭
✭No
Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.7 -
Frawr✭✭✭✭✭NoIt is interesting reading the first few pages.
Many people predicted that zergs would become the way to play because there would no longer be a way to break them.
Isn't that amazing.
@zos I think we can all agree now that it is time to remove it. Not alter it or change skills.
Remove the cap.
Don't be scared of 2-3 people wiping a noobraid. That should be accepted and permitted. Don't try to protect people from their own incompetence. They will learn and enjoy the game more if you expect more of them.8 -
Lucky28✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoLava_Croft wrote: »
Everybody that's honest knows that the most lag comes from highly organized AoE spam groups. This not a jab at those groups in general, but more a jab at all the people claiming 'zergs' cause the most lag.PainfulFAFA wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »kill aoe spamballs... just suppress aoe or decrease it's power enough to make them unefficient.
wether they are 5 or 50 brainless spammers does not change anything.
Before anyone believes this person is for helping smallscale / soloist players, think again. I guaranteee you this is not even half of his group, he usually runs with 30-40+ people for one raid.
brainless spammers eh ?
http://s3.postimg.org/f3j3nuosz/Prootch_1.jpg
Name and shame I know, but this guy is such a hypocrite xD
It all makes sense now.
Zergling defending his right to zerg in the safety of his numbers lol!
Well, to be fair, i think zerging the way he does creates less lag than stacking on crown, and it's more fun to fight that type of group.
yes and no. large zerg groups do cause lag mostly on account of ZOS moving "character movement" server side rather than application side due to speed hacks. that's something ZOS is also gonna have to revisit, they need a better solution for that issue without harming performance.Edited by Lucky28 on December 24, 2015 7:40AMInvictus0 -
MisterBigglesworth✭✭✭✭✭
✭Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.3 -
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_Chaos✭✭✭✭✭
✭No@Wrobel
@ZOS_RichLambert
@ZOS_MattFiror
Have you taken a look at the outcome of this poll? Care to explain yourselves?
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Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nospenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »@Wrobel
@ZOS_RichLambert
@ZOS_MattFiror
Have you taken a look at the outcome of this poll? Care to explain yourselves?
@Wrobel
@ZOS_RichLambert
@ZOS_MattFiror
Until they do explain, the default explanation is that they simply do not care about what a majority of their players want. Not even enough to actually explain the REAL reason why AOE caps are in place.2 -
Wollust✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NoI am still amazed that they haven't bothered responding here since.. ever.Susano'o
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JaJaLuka✭✭✭✭NoFunny that a ZoS employee thinks there should be AoE caps, it shows at least that they don't play their own game.Krojick, DC Sorc PC NA
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wayfarerx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Funny that a ZoS employee thinks there should be AoE caps, it shows at least that they don't play their own game.
Maybe it was the dev that originally implemented the AOE cap and doesn't want to see their baby put out to pasture
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JaJaLuka✭✭✭✭No
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DKsUnite✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoFunny that a ZoS employee thinks there should be AoE caps, it shows at least that they don't play their own game.
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Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoI wanna say I am half and half on this idea.
No: It would help out some AoE skills/spells alot such as DKs cinder storm or Bow skill arrow barrage.
Yes: Reason why I also think it should stay is cause of players like FENGRUSH who will no doubt abuse the mechanic and do spin to win with steel tornado with him and his cult causing more problems with PvP/AvA.0 -
LegendaryChef✭✭✭✭✭No@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @zos @ZOS_MollyH
87% of the population on here do not want an aoe cap out of 4000+ people and none of you have anything to say about that?Zzoro/Elliot Brown/Baldy ~Kitesquad/Noricum~
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Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoForestd16b14_ESO wrote: »I wanna say I am half and half on this idea.
No: It would help out some AoE skills/spells alot such as DKs cinder storm or Bow skill arrow barrage.
Yes: Reason why I also think it should stay is cause of players like FENGRUSH who will no doubt abuse the mechanic and do spin to win with steel tornado with him and his cult causing more problems with PvP/AvA.
I see you voted no, but I don't understand the half-yes.
"Abuse" is a term way too casually thrown around on these forums. Playing well or skillfully or how the devs intended is now "abusing" mechanics. It's a joke. Let's try to use the word abuse in a context most will agree on: like those people who rerolled and are now walking around with 8 mundas stones
K, you don't want to see FENGRUSH "abuse" the very skill ZoS designed and intended to use against multiple enemies. Bad FENGRUSH. Do us all a favor and use twin slashes on the 30 opponents zerging you down. WE don't want you to have a bad reputation for "abusing" game mechanics.
What about all those ball-groups stacking on crown taking advantage of AoE caps? Is that not also "abuse"? Why is their abuse preferable to FENGRUSH potentially spamming steel tornado?
Given the choice of which "abuse" to get stuck with, I'd much prefer the steel tornado spammers because at least then the stupid stack on crown meta will die and I might get an average ping rate lower than 500.Edited by Joy_Division on February 3, 2016 4:38AM5 -
Iyas✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoWhat are the chances for something like in the pts notes:
Cyrodil
Removal of AoE caps1 -
Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoWhat are the chances for something like in the pts notes:
Cyrodil
Removal of AoE caps
All we know is - AOE caps are gonna stay.
They want to have a look how the other changes impact pvp behavior as they feel with the healthy state pvp is in they have enough time for a policy of small changes with 8 to 12 week time windows between them.<Noricum>
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Tower_Of_Shame✭✭✭✭PainfulFAFA wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »kill aoe spamballs... just suppress aoe or decrease it's power enough to make them unefficient.
wether they are 5 or 50 brainless spammers does not change anything.
Before anyone believes this person is for helping smallscale / soloist players, think again. I guaranteee you this is not even half of his group, he usually runs with 30-40+ people for one raid.
brainless spammers eh ?
http://s3.postimg.org/f3j3nuosz/Prootch_1.jpg
Name and shame I know, but this guy is such a hypocrite xD
It all makes sense now.
Zergling defending his right to zerg in the safety of his numbers lol!
Well, to be fair, i think zerging the way he does creates less lag than stacking on crown, and it's more fun to fight that type of group.
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Tower_Of_Shame✭✭✭✭Funny that a ZoS employee thinks there should be AoE caps, it shows at least that they don't play their own game.
ofc they do...
Didn't you see when they were playing IC when it was coming out, they were streaming? there were like 6 of them and even a 1.7 naked magicka DK would have killed them...
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