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DisgracefulMind wrote: »It's getting fixed Monday.
Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Let me give you a brief history of PvP skill exploits. Note that there are ton's more than just the ones I have listed, these are just some of the more notorious ones. Maybe this will give you some perspective while you are raging at ZOS demanding an immediate fix.
The date: May 2014
The problem: Using caltrops would negate any siege damage when you were standing on the caltrops.
What enemy players did: Exploited the hell out of it. They would throw down paths of caltrops, then rush keeps being immune to siege.
What we did: Filled the forums with angry posts demanding an immediate fix.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99434/lets-just-say-it-friendly-caltrops-negate-siege-damage/p4
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99420/caltrops-destroying-seige-warfare-completely-in-cyrodiil
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/105171/caltrops-still-bugged-still-destroying-pvp
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99606/caltrops-bug-will-be-fixed-after-craglorn-is-that-too-long
What ZOS did: Waited for months to fix it, finally patching it after the next major content patch.
The date: October 2014
The problem: The bow skill Lethal Arrow would apply a healing debuff that would stack. Reducing your healing taken to 0%
What enemy players did: Exploited the hell out of it. Cyrodiil was Elder Bows Online for months
What we did: Here we go again! Trust me these are all good reads.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136840/lethal-arrow-the-new-i-win
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/139046/lethal-arrow-healing-debuff-stack-intended-vid-included
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/138769/pvp-reduced-to-lethal-arrow
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/139780/stacking-lethal-arrows-from-any-one-player-100-healing-debuff
What ZOS did: Waited about three months. Patched up sometime in December 2014
The date: November 2014
The problem: Trying to purge certain skills like Wall of Elements actually make all of their DOTs tick at the same time.
What enemy players did: What do you think? It would wipe entire raids.
What we did: Filled the forums with angry posts some of which were deleted to keep the exploit under wraps.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/140648/wall-of-elements/p1
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/138152/elemental-blockade-unstable-wall-the-new-impulse
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142466/purge-and-unstable-wall
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142540/purge-bug-not-a-priority
What ZOS did: Deleted some of our threads about it for damage control and waited for months before fixing.
There are many more and I will happily tell you about them if you are interested. But that takes us to September 2015.
Here's the drill:
You will rage.
You will make 1000 posts about it claiming it has destroyed PvP
You will threaten to quit the game
ZOS will fix it in about 2-3 months
Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Let me give you a brief history of PvP skill exploits. Note that there are ton's more than just the ones I have listed, these are just some of the more notorious ones. Maybe this will give you some perspective while you are raging at ZOS demanding an immediate fix.
The date: May 2014
The problem: Using caltrops would negate any siege damage when you were standing on the caltrops.
What enemy players did: Exploited the hell out of it. They would throw down paths of caltrops, then rush keeps being immune to siege.
What we did: Filled the forums with angry posts demanding an immediate fix.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99434/lets-just-say-it-friendly-caltrops-negate-siege-damage/p4
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99420/caltrops-destroying-seige-warfare-completely-in-cyrodiil
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/105171/caltrops-still-bugged-still-destroying-pvp
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99606/caltrops-bug-will-be-fixed-after-craglorn-is-that-too-long
What ZOS did: Waited for months to fix it, finally patching it after the next major content patch.
The date: October 2014
The problem: The bow skill Lethal Arrow would apply a healing debuff that would stack. Reducing your healing taken to 0%
What enemy players did: Exploited the hell out of it. Cyrodiil was Elder Bows Online for months
What we did: Here we go again! Trust me these are all good reads.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136840/lethal-arrow-the-new-i-win
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/139046/lethal-arrow-healing-debuff-stack-intended-vid-included
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/138769/pvp-reduced-to-lethal-arrow
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/139780/stacking-lethal-arrows-from-any-one-player-100-healing-debuff
What ZOS did: Waited about three months. Patched up sometime in December 2014
The date: November 2014
The problem: Trying to purge certain skills like Wall of Elements actually make all of their DOTs tick at the same time.
What enemy players did: What do you think? It would wipe entire raids.
What we did: Filled the forums with angry posts some of which were deleted to keep the exploit under wraps.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/140648/wall-of-elements/p1
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/138152/elemental-blockade-unstable-wall-the-new-impulse
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142466/purge-and-unstable-wall
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142540/purge-bug-not-a-priority
What ZOS did: Deleted some of our threads about it for damage control and waited for months before fixing.
There are many more and I will happily tell you about them if you are interested. But that takes us to September 2015.
Here's the drill:
You will rage.
You will make 1000 posts about it claiming it has destroyed PvP
You will threaten to quit the game
ZOS will fix it in about 2-3 months
FriedEggSandwich wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Let me give you a brief history of PvP skill exploits. Note that there are ton's more than just the ones I have listed, these are just some of the more notorious ones. Maybe this will give you some perspective while you are raging at ZOS demanding an immediate fix.
The date: May 2014
The problem: Using caltrops would negate any siege damage when you were standing on the caltrops.
What enemy players did: Exploited the hell out of it. They would throw down paths of caltrops, then rush keeps being immune to siege.
What we did: Filled the forums with angry posts demanding an immediate fix.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99434/lets-just-say-it-friendly-caltrops-negate-siege-damage/p4
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99420/caltrops-destroying-seige-warfare-completely-in-cyrodiil
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/105171/caltrops-still-bugged-still-destroying-pvp
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99606/caltrops-bug-will-be-fixed-after-craglorn-is-that-too-long
What ZOS did: Waited for months to fix it, finally patching it after the next major content patch.
The date: October 2014
The problem: The bow skill Lethal Arrow would apply a healing debuff that would stack. Reducing your healing taken to 0%
What enemy players did: Exploited the hell out of it. Cyrodiil was Elder Bows Online for months
What we did: Here we go again! Trust me these are all good reads.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136840/lethal-arrow-the-new-i-win
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/139046/lethal-arrow-healing-debuff-stack-intended-vid-included
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/138769/pvp-reduced-to-lethal-arrow
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/139780/stacking-lethal-arrows-from-any-one-player-100-healing-debuff
What ZOS did: Waited about three months. Patched up sometime in December 2014
The date: November 2014
The problem: Trying to purge certain skills like Wall of Elements actually make all of their DOTs tick at the same time.
What enemy players did: What do you think? It would wipe entire raids.
What we did: Filled the forums with angry posts some of which were deleted to keep the exploit under wraps.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/140648/wall-of-elements/p1
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/138152/elemental-blockade-unstable-wall-the-new-impulse
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142466/purge-and-unstable-wall
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142540/purge-bug-not-a-priority
What ZOS did: Deleted some of our threads about it for damage control and waited for months before fixing.
There are many more and I will happily tell you about them if you are interested. But that takes us to September 2015.
Here's the drill:
You will rage.
You will make 1000 posts about it claiming it has destroyed PvP
You will threaten to quit the game
ZOS will fix it in about 2-3 months
Sadly you are right, and props to you for digging all that up. I remember the lethal arrow bug but not the others. But I feel that not all bugs/exploits are equal. To me there's a difference between continuing to use sharpened on your weapon after you discover it's bugged because you can't be bothered/afford to change it, and going out of your way to put inner light on your overload bar and toggle it as you hit 'r'.
I will admit to not actually knowing how this rearming trap bug works, found out about it a few days ago and I've never knowingly been hit by it. I wouldn't expect players to just stop using the skill, just like you couldn't really expect people to stop using dawnbreaker (never used it myself). But if it's one of the exploits that need setting up then it's frown-worthy imo, and those numbers are well over anyone's hp. I was pretty upset when I found out the frags passive could stack from successive procs after 1.6, but I didn't stop using frags. They seemed to patch that fairly quickly if I remember right, but it could well have been a month or two idk.
i hate when enemies are ambushing at sewer entrance (entering sewer from arena district as EP (base near)....i WANT to get temporary immortality when entering sewres (like when changing surface district)
it so STUPID when you have 1k+ stones and then you realize youre dead after 2 minutes loading...
SighYolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Let me give you a brief history of PvP skill exploits. Note that there are ton's more than just the ones I have listed, these are just some of the more notorious ones. Maybe this will give you some perspective while you are raging at ZOS demanding an immediate fix.
The date: May 2014
The problem: Using caltrops would negate any siege damage when you were standing on the caltrops.
What enemy players did: Exploited the hell out of it. They would throw down paths of caltrops, then rush keeps being immune to siege.
What we did: Filled the forums with angry posts demanding an immediate fix.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99434/lets-just-say-it-friendly-caltrops-negate-siege-damage/p4
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99420/caltrops-destroying-seige-warfare-completely-in-cyrodiil
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/105171/caltrops-still-bugged-still-destroying-pvp
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99606/caltrops-bug-will-be-fixed-after-craglorn-is-that-too-long
What ZOS did: Waited for months to fix it, finally patching it after the next major content patch.
The date: October 2014
The problem: The bow skill Lethal Arrow would apply a healing debuff that would stack. Reducing your healing taken to 0%
What enemy players did: Exploited the hell out of it. Cyrodiil was Elder Bows Online for months
What we did: Here we go again! Trust me these are all good reads.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136840/lethal-arrow-the-new-i-win
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/139046/lethal-arrow-healing-debuff-stack-intended-vid-included
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/138769/pvp-reduced-to-lethal-arrow
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/139780/stacking-lethal-arrows-from-any-one-player-100-healing-debuff
What ZOS did: Waited about three months. Patched up sometime in December 2014
The date: November 2014
The problem: Trying to purge certain skills like Wall of Elements actually make all of their DOTs tick at the same time.
What enemy players did: What do you think? It would wipe entire raids.
What we did: Filled the forums with angry posts some of which were deleted to keep the exploit under wraps.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/140648/wall-of-elements/p1
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/138152/elemental-blockade-unstable-wall-the-new-impulse
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142466/purge-and-unstable-wall
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142540/purge-bug-not-a-priority
What ZOS did: Deleted some of our threads about it for damage control and waited for months before fixing.
There are many more and I will happily tell you about them if you are interested. But that takes us to September 2015.
Here's the drill:
You will rage.
You will make 1000 posts about it claiming it has destroyed PvP
You will threaten to quit the game
ZOS will fix it in about 2-3 months
PainfulFAFA wrote: »SighYolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Let me give you a brief history of PvP skill exploits. Note that there are ton's more than just the ones I have listed, these are just some of the more notorious ones. Maybe this will give you some perspective while you are raging at ZOS demanding an immediate fix.
The date: May 2014
The problem: Using caltrops would negate any siege damage when you were standing on the caltrops.
What enemy players did: Exploited the hell out of it. They would throw down paths of caltrops, then rush keeps being immune to siege.
What we did: Filled the forums with angry posts demanding an immediate fix.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99434/lets-just-say-it-friendly-caltrops-negate-siege-damage/p4
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99420/caltrops-destroying-seige-warfare-completely-in-cyrodiil
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/105171/caltrops-still-bugged-still-destroying-pvp
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99606/caltrops-bug-will-be-fixed-after-craglorn-is-that-too-long
What ZOS did: Waited for months to fix it, finally patching it after the next major content patch.
The date: October 2014
The problem: The bow skill Lethal Arrow would apply a healing debuff that would stack. Reducing your healing taken to 0%
What enemy players did: Exploited the hell out of it. Cyrodiil was Elder Bows Online for months
What we did: Here we go again! Trust me these are all good reads.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136840/lethal-arrow-the-new-i-win
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/139046/lethal-arrow-healing-debuff-stack-intended-vid-included
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/138769/pvp-reduced-to-lethal-arrow
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/139780/stacking-lethal-arrows-from-any-one-player-100-healing-debuff
What ZOS did: Waited about three months. Patched up sometime in December 2014
The date: November 2014
The problem: Trying to purge certain skills like Wall of Elements actually make all of their DOTs tick at the same time.
What enemy players did: What do you think? It would wipe entire raids.
What we did: Filled the forums with angry posts some of which were deleted to keep the exploit under wraps.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/140648/wall-of-elements/p1
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/138152/elemental-blockade-unstable-wall-the-new-impulse
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142466/purge-and-unstable-wall
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142540/purge-bug-not-a-priority
What ZOS did: Deleted some of our threads about it for damage control and waited for months before fixing.
There are many more and I will happily tell you about them if you are interested. But that takes us to September 2015.
Here's the drill:
You will rage.
You will make 1000 posts about it claiming it has destroyed PvP
You will threaten to quit the game
ZOS will fix it in about 2-3 months
the infinite batswarm
the infinite streak
igneous shield (that one was fun tho but still op)
mistform exploit
1.6 dawn breaker of smiting
1.6 maces ignoring armor stats
1.6 nirnhone virtually nullifying magicka dmg
Played through all that BS
Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »PainfulFAFA wrote: »SighYolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Let me give you a brief history of PvP skill exploits. Note that there are ton's more than just the ones I have listed, these are just some of the more notorious ones. Maybe this will give you some perspective while you are raging at ZOS demanding an immediate fix.
The date: May 2014
The problem: Using caltrops would negate any siege damage when you were standing on the caltrops.
What enemy players did: Exploited the hell out of it. They would throw down paths of caltrops, then rush keeps being immune to siege.
What we did: Filled the forums with angry posts demanding an immediate fix.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99434/lets-just-say-it-friendly-caltrops-negate-siege-damage/p4
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99420/caltrops-destroying-seige-warfare-completely-in-cyrodiil
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/105171/caltrops-still-bugged-still-destroying-pvp
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99606/caltrops-bug-will-be-fixed-after-craglorn-is-that-too-long
What ZOS did: Waited for months to fix it, finally patching it after the next major content patch.
The date: October 2014
The problem: The bow skill Lethal Arrow would apply a healing debuff that would stack. Reducing your healing taken to 0%
What enemy players did: Exploited the hell out of it. Cyrodiil was Elder Bows Online for months
What we did: Here we go again! Trust me these are all good reads.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136840/lethal-arrow-the-new-i-win
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/139046/lethal-arrow-healing-debuff-stack-intended-vid-included
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/138769/pvp-reduced-to-lethal-arrow
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/139780/stacking-lethal-arrows-from-any-one-player-100-healing-debuff
What ZOS did: Waited about three months. Patched up sometime in December 2014
The date: November 2014
The problem: Trying to purge certain skills like Wall of Elements actually make all of their DOTs tick at the same time.
What enemy players did: What do you think? It would wipe entire raids.
What we did: Filled the forums with angry posts some of which were deleted to keep the exploit under wraps.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/140648/wall-of-elements/p1
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/138152/elemental-blockade-unstable-wall-the-new-impulse
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142466/purge-and-unstable-wall
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142540/purge-bug-not-a-priority
What ZOS did: Deleted some of our threads about it for damage control and waited for months before fixing.
There are many more and I will happily tell you about them if you are interested. But that takes us to September 2015.
Here's the drill:
You will rage.
You will make 1000 posts about it claiming it has destroyed PvP
You will threaten to quit the game
ZOS will fix it in about 2-3 months
the infinite batswarm
the infinite streak
igneous shield (that one was fun tho but still op)
mistform exploit
1.6 dawn breaker of smiting
1.6 maces ignoring armor stats
1.6 nirnhone virtually nullifying magicka dmg
Played through all that BS
How bout the vampire feed permastun trick? That one was fun.
Also there was a few set that gave permanent health or magicka.
There was an issue with death's wind and bat swarm that gave you ludicrous speed.
There was a way to trick your inventory to think you had two of an item.
And we haven't even mentioned all the terrain hacks.
Dont play vampire? Traps hit for a few hundreds of damage then
Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Let me give you a brief history of PvP skill exploits. Note that there are ton's more than just the ones I have listed, these are just some of the more notorious ones. Maybe this will give you some perspective while you are raging at ZOS demanding an immediate fix.
The date: May 2014
The problem: Using caltrops would negate any siege damage when you were standing on the caltrops.
What enemy players did: Exploited the hell out of it. They would throw down paths of caltrops, then rush keeps being immune to siege.
What we did: Filled the forums with angry posts demanding an immediate fix.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99434/lets-just-say-it-friendly-caltrops-negate-siege-damage/p4
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99420/caltrops-destroying-seige-warfare-completely-in-cyrodiil
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/105171/caltrops-still-bugged-still-destroying-pvp
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/99606/caltrops-bug-will-be-fixed-after-craglorn-is-that-too-long
What ZOS did: Waited for months to fix it, finally patching it after the next major content patch.
The date: October 2014
The problem: The bow skill Lethal Arrow would apply a healing debuff that would stack. Reducing your healing taken to 0%
What enemy players did: Exploited the hell out of it. Cyrodiil was Elder Bows Online for months
What we did: Here we go again! Trust me these are all good reads.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136840/lethal-arrow-the-new-i-win
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/139046/lethal-arrow-healing-debuff-stack-intended-vid-included
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/138769/pvp-reduced-to-lethal-arrow
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/139780/stacking-lethal-arrows-from-any-one-player-100-healing-debuff
What ZOS did: Waited about three months. Patched up sometime in December 2014
The date: November 2014
The problem: Trying to purge certain skills like Wall of Elements actually make all of their DOTs tick at the same time.
What enemy players did: What do you think? It would wipe entire raids.
What we did: Filled the forums with angry posts some of which were deleted to keep the exploit under wraps.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/140648/wall-of-elements/p1
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/138152/elemental-blockade-unstable-wall-the-new-impulse
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142466/purge-and-unstable-wall
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142540/purge-bug-not-a-priority
What ZOS did: Deleted some of our threads about it for damage control and waited for months before fixing.
There are many more and I will happily tell you about them if you are interested. But that takes us to September 2015.
Here's the drill:
You will rage.
You will make 1000 posts about it claiming it has destroyed PvP
You will threaten to quit the game
ZOS will fix it in about 2-3 months
Hiero_Glyph wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »It's getting fixed Monday.
Technically they are applying a hotbreak, not fixing it. The fix will not be applied before the next incremental patch.