henrycupcakerwb17_ESO wrote: »

just so you know , Chris himself , the ONLY mac developer has spoken ...
just look at my post , and be grateful that Zenimax offer us a native mac osx version , and he have said that Zenimax had beenTRYING to HIRE mac developer for over a year but NO ONE show up ...

is there any official statement proofing this ?

Guess we're not getting that @KhajitFurTrader‌ :

We have a few additions to these patch notes, specifically for the Mac client. We'll be updating the original post with these changes as well.

Mac Client
General
Fixed an issue that would cause a gradual memory leak during long play sessions.
Fixed an issue where using dual monitors and bumping the edge of the second screen could inadvertently switch you to windowed mode.
Fixed an issue where the keyboard language could be set to non Latin on startup.
Gina Bruno
Assistant Community Manager - The Elder Scrolls Online

Monsoon wrote: »

Go ahead...focus on the person and not the issue

Yeah, talk about logical fallacies...

Backtrack to when you were focusing on @Moonraker about wether technical terms were included or not in patch notes.

I think this thread can now be closed as the issues that brought this thread are being fixed in the next patch

Spoke too early apparently

Monsoon wrote: »

ouch 2 days left until one needs a sub to play. To tell the truth I am really on the fence. I did remove my CC details but I am not sure what to do.

From what you're writing the game works only 50% for you. I can see where you're coming from, that PvP is important to you, and unfortunately this is the field where the Mac client still has the most apparent weakness. If you could only pay 50% of the sub... but that is, of course, not an option. So, what ARE your options?

Some good folks here suggested running the Windows client in Boot Camp. While I personally don't endorse this for reasons I've explained elsewhere, this is of course a viable alternative for playing the game's AvA for the time being. Don't get me wrong, I want the Mac client to come through and succeed. But you might want to think about whether this option could work out for you or not.

You could also unsub, and simply wait until things are fixed. My experience with software development tells me that the issues will be fixed one day, one way (bug squish) or the other (64-bit client). Thing is, no-one knows if this day is in three weeks from now, or in three months. But no-one expects you to pay a 100% price tag for a service you can enjoy only 50% of, also.

Or, you could stay, and enjoy the parts that work for you to the best of your ability. This is an exciting time for ESO, as is the launch period for all MMOs. Lots of tweaks, balancing, changes, fixes, in rapid succession. A PvE content update soon(TM) with new stuff to do and to see. You'll miss all of this when you're not around to experience it firsthand, and if you're coming back later, the game might seem unfamiliar (hopefully not unrecognizable) to you. You're saying yourself that you're seeing progression on ZOS' part, so you could set a personal bet on them. Bet that they're able to overcome the initial difficulties in an amount of time that seems reasonable to you. Show them your support by staying subbed. Hardly anyone now remembers the serious problems WoW had at its launch ten years ago, as they have become the stuff of legend. Maybe we'll say the same about ESO in the years to come. But then we can also say that we've been with it all the time.

I would now like to eat my own words, and offer an apology to you for what I said in that other post. I hope you stay around, and enjoy playing ESO for a long time.

No fix again in 1.0.7. This is sad news.
Buying Windows for Bootcamp at the price of ESO itself is not an option, the IE was expensive enough (and I'd hate to reboot every time I'd like to play). The idea of buying a complete second PC is even more ridiculous. I bought a Mac client of ESO and expect it to work as advertised without (costly) workarounds.

canuck1975 wrote: »

I'm only finding crashing in strange places... like I'm riding my horse or walking in town. So far I've been lucky it seems. Mind you, I haven't tried to PVP (trying to level up first and the crashing would suck).

At the end of the day, Zenimax needs the recurring revenue so if enough Mac players get fed up and stop paying they'll fix it. That's the joy of capitalism.

Or, decide that there are not enough paying Mac customers for it to be viable and stop supporting the platform...

It cuts both ways in business.

Why I am happy to pay for multi-month subscription. But mainly because it's a great game.

canuck1975 wrote: »

On a separate note, one thing I thought of after posting last night... isn't it kind of cool that they actually developed it for Mac in the first place? It's not a port so that's huge for our little community.

I still think it's very cool. And it was a huge initial incentive for me to try to get into beta in the first place.

There was only one other MMO for which I was willing to jump through the Boot Camp hoop, and that was only because I'm a huge fan of the works of Professor Tolkien.

achimb16_ESO3 wrote: »

Zenimax might not even be aware of all the crashes in OSX - for me the CrashReporter itself crashes since the last update. I have to cmd-alt-esc and close it to be able to continue.
The game still crashes every 1-2 hours in PVE for me (mostly when returning to town for selling/banking), but it never sends crashreports to Zenimax any more. So the problem might look much minor on their side as it actually is.

For some it doesn't work at all, for others (like me) it works most of the time. It's not so reliable but 'should' work. If not it does indicate some connection issue or problem fully generating the report. I posted some more details in this thread.

So, at least some reports get sent and at this point the memory issue is well known and continues to be investigated and fixes put in for QA testing then live, as they are found. This would not just be in the Mac client but libraries , game engine etc.

This is ridicilous. Why is this game even sold for mac.
Crash every hour.

Oh that necro

Case in point with ZeniMax trying to hire more mac developers (I still haven't seen anything in regards to this) is that the game industry generally pays very poorly compared to the same jobs in another field. I normally get paid a little above 50k€ a year, the same job in the games industry (trust me I've looked) pays maybe 40. Good mac devs are rare, precious even, so... Yer if they think they can hire a mac-dev that can go to adobe or wolfram-alpha and make 25% more then ZM's is gonna have a bad time.

I'm making silly, lack of coffee induced assumptions here of course.