Eormenric wrote: »

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

I buy the chapters and zone dlcs, never been a sub--

Honest question: How do you play the game? I can't conceive how one could acquire and use multiple builds, craft extensively, and make large amount of gold without a subscription. If you're content thrifting your way through the game, and all the extra time and effort that requires to constantly be limited, then you are a grand minority.

I get the free + trial when it's out to clear the bank, but that only started a few tears ago. Don't hoard too many crafting materials. Got 1 toon holding a bunch of set items. Never found it too limiting. Most of my toons use world sets rather than crafted ones, anyway.

I am grateful and thankful that ZOS is giving Deadlands away for free, I've been playing since 2016 and have never subbed, I always bought every DLC/chapter/cosmetics with money. I've played almost everyday for several years and spent alot of money over the years, and this year in particular, I was really starting to feel turned off by performance, lack of depth in companions, this years story/theme...etc. A couple months ago, I decided that I wouldn't spend any more money on this game until they start improving things. But now after they announced that they are giving away the deadlands DLC for free I was super excited and I'm actually hyped for the deadlands DLC now where as before I wasn't really interested or going to get it for at least quite a while until maybe when there was a sale. I can see now that after watching the past ESO Announcement livestreams, Rich Lambert answer player questions and talk about the game on his Twitch Channel and the dev's excitement talking about what they are doing and the stuff they are working on, I can see that they really do care, they love the game and want to make it the best they can. This announcement of giving away an entire DLC for free has restored my faith in ZOS and showed me that they don't just care about money, they actually want to make their customers happy. I will be supporting ZOS by buying crowns/DLC/Chapters again and because they will be giving away this DLC for free, I'm now considering subscribing to continue to show support and reward ZOS for being generous and giving things to their loyal players. I think ZOS deserves some praise, and should be rewarded for being customer friendly. I hadn't thought of how ESO+ subscribers would feel since technically they would've gotten access to the zone regardless, but think about it this way, now you don't have to pay crowns to fully own it anymore ensuring that you have access to the zone forever, plus if it reaches 100% then you still have the ogrim target dummy to look forward to. Either way, it's sad to see ZOS getting flak from the community where they shouldn't. ZOS is doing a good thing for the community and they are getting attacked for it, what does this show them? That if they do something good they will be met with division and criticism by the community, this will make them less likely to give us stuff for free in the future. I for one like free stuff regardless if its something as small as a pet/cosmetic or as big as a house/DLC, no matter what I am grateful for free stuff and want ZOS to know that they are doing good thing for the community, keep up the good work!

This is a step in the right direction. The small DLCs that conclude the year long story arc should be included in the price of the yearly chapter anyway. Kudos to ZOS for this player friendly decision.

BalticBlues wrote: »

Wow, they probably are giving away an entire DLC for free.
Isn't this awesome... but some people here still do complain?
Why not just be happy for all the people without ESO+ to enjoy it?

If you cannot be happy for other people
you probably won't be happy for a lot of your life...
Because you get the most happiness in life
when the people around you are happy.

I don’t think it’s the reward that people are complaining about. It’s the fact that it was hyped so heavily. I, personally, feel like I was duped into tuning in to watch some cross-between Dream Theater and Anthrax promote their new 10 minute music video. Not that it was bad. It all just seemed a bit underhanded and tricky to me.

I'm glad it's going to be free, I don't sub every month, and I purchase most dlc.
Blackwood itself feels like dlc to me intead of a full fledged chapter, maybe this was content they purposely left out to sell as dlc, and had a change of heart and decided to "gift "it to us, either way Thanks ZoS!

trackdemon5512 wrote: »

So what’s the reward? Players that loyally subscribe to ESO+ aren’t really getting anything. Casual base game players aren’t getting anything unless they shell out for Blackwood. And those that miss out are usually able to find a crown gifter to reward them.

So yeah, it’s a let down.

Ding ding! And we have a winner.

This isn't a gift at all, it's an incentive to buy the latest chapter before it goes crowns-buyable and/or included with base game later.

That is NOT a "gift"--to anyone, free players OR ESO+. The "marketing team" have done their job exactly as intended. A gift with strings attached is not a gift, it's a marketing ploy. Housing is a gift, even if getting a huge empty estate is an incentive to buy furniture, at least players have the option to not have to pay RL money to furnish the places. This DLC? You have to pay money to get it, if you haven't already, and if you already pay money, you essentially get nothing new.

That's fine, but let's not fool ourselves and talk "altruism", here.

A gift doesn't have strings, and it has (generally) equal value to people who pay for ESO+ as well as those who don't. People who pay for ESO+ already have access to this DLC. While I approve of the "no pay to win" values exhibited in the stream, it's interesting that people who pay end up with no extras in this case (and no, I don't think the craft bag, free dyes or double furnishings = "value". Those are created problems that have been "solved" with a subscription. That's fine, seriously--no, really-- but don't call it "value" when you pay for it or lose it the millisecond your sub runs out no matter how long you've been subbed for).

ETA: I am mostly fine with it (not angry just disappointed my cynicism was warranted), and am glad non subbers get a free DLC... you know, if they buy something. I'm just tired of over-nonsense marketing. But that's partly because my PM is "Scotty from Marketing" and I'm cynicalled out.

I was just about to make a post about this as I did not understand the point of it at all lmao. Glad to see there are 4 pages of people equally as confused. I wouldn't call it a 'prize' when, probably, half of the people interested enough to take part or even find out about it are subs anyway.

HoneyBunBadgers wrote: »

I am grateful and thankful that ZOS is giving Deadlands away for free, I've been playing since 2016 and have never subbed, I always bought every DLC/chapter/cosmetics with money. I've played almost everyday for several years and spent alot of money over the years, and this year in particular, I was really starting to feel turned off by performance, lack of depth in companions, this years story/theme...etc. A couple months ago, I decided that I wouldn't spend any more money on this game until they start improving things. But now after they announced that they are giving away the deadlands DLC for free I was super excited and I'm actually hyped for the deadlands DLC now where as before I wasn't really interested or going to get it for at least quite a while until maybe when there was a sale. I can see now that after watching the past ESO Announcement livestreams, Rich Lambert answer player questions and talk about the game on his Twitch Channel and the dev's excitement talking about what they are doing and the stuff they are working on, I can see that they really do care, they love the game and want to make it the best they can. This announcement of giving away an entire DLC for free has restored my faith in ZOS and showed me that they don't just care about money, they actually want to make their customers happy. I will be supporting ZOS by buying crowns/DLC/Chapters again and because they will be giving away this DLC for free, I'm now considering subscribing to continue to show support and reward ZOS for being generous and giving things to their loyal players. I think ZOS deserves some praise, and should be rewarded for being customer friendly. I hadn't thought of how ESO+ subscribers would feel since technically they would've gotten access to the zone regardless, but think about it this way, now you don't have to pay crowns to fully own it anymore ensuring that you have access to the zone forever, plus if it reaches 100% then you still have the ogrim target dummy to look forward to. Either way, it's sad to see ZOS getting flak from the community where they shouldn't. ZOS is doing a good thing for the community and they are getting attacked for it, what does this show them? That if they do something good they will be met with division and criticism by the community, this will make them less likely to give us stuff for free in the future. I for one like free stuff regardless if its something as small as a pet/cosmetic or as big as a house/DLC, no matter what I am grateful for free stuff and want ZOS to know that they are doing good thing for the community, keep up the good work!

It may benefit you, and congrats, but how will that help ZOS?

Also, keep in mind that people on such videos are almost always salespeople in some manner and good sales people can seem excited showing off anything! That doesn't mean they are not really excited of course, but it does not prove it either. Don't ignore it, but don't claim more than you should.

The amount of salt in this thread is hilarious, coming from the viewpoint of someone who will never subscribe to eso+ due to the performance in the game (and other reasons). I buy dlcs with gold, so this means I have more gold to blow on the few remaining motifs I haven't collected. Yay!

As a subscriber since game release i also don't mind at all. I usually also buy up all dlcs when they are on sale, because who knows what the future holds. I would be happier if everyone got the community reward, not just chapter holders, but i can also enjoy rewards that don't completely fulfill my expectations. That's my way to a happy life. ^^

Feeling decidedly underwhelmed by the "extra special" prize that's unlocked at 100% this event. As an ESO+ member it doesn't feel "extra special" to get the DLC I would have access to anyway. Having said that I'm always grateful to receive more attunable crafting stations, so will still be somewhat happy if we all hit the 100% mark.