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Console: Should text chat be implemented with the IC patch?

  • Vulsahdaal
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    Yes
    Alukit wrote: »
    sadly i couldn't take the horrible state of the console chat system of only using voice so i switch to PC since i found out controller UI was being work on for it. its really bad that i was enjoying it til every day going into town was a nightmare, people swearing, making R ape jokes,screaming into their open mic or just blasting music to block out anyone trying to talk.

    Did you happen to be at the blacksmith in daggerfall last night? Perfect example of what you just said. There was a "naked men dance party" going on and they were all up on the smithing tables doing push ups on each other and blasting boy George songs. The stuff they were saying in voice chat would have been horribly offensive for most people but I'm so desensitized to our modern society I don't even care anymore. Lol

    Wasnt there but I think I ran onto that group before, learned some jokes from them that were guaranteed to offend almost everyone.. But being rather desensitized myself, I just ignored it and got out of there as soon as I could.
    However, I had left Xbox ESO sometime ago as I found the lack of ability to do things that are so easily done on PC theyre taken for granted, but left out of the console version due to lack of text chat, to be rather frustrating.
    But the other day I had to go back onto Xbox, as my PC characters all had a skill reset, and since they were copied to Xbox, figured I could maybe refresh my memory there.
    In Davons Watch, there was a kid there that even the most desensitized of us just couldnt ignore. He just continuously screamed non-stop into the mic as he ran back and forth, with no signs of quitting. Im not talking about ranting, there were no words involved, just screaming.
    To the frustration of many, he could not be muted in normal way of bring up his gamer card from list of people in area chat. It just came up with gamer card not available.
    Someone suggested (after a few attempts since he had to try to out-scream the screamer) that if we could click on him to bring up the menu, we maybe could get a gamer card to come up from there.
    But I suspect the screamer was onto us, which is probably why he was running in circles like that, and if anyone came near him he would quickly dodge out of their way. I gave up, just finished noting my skills and left, back to PC where one may run into such an idiot (though not as often as on console it seems) but at least they are quiet about it and much easier to ignore :)
  • LiquidZ
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    Yes
    I'm on PC and I think it should be added for consoles.
  • Alukit
    Alukit
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    Yes
    Alukit wrote: »
    sadly i couldn't take the horrible state of the console chat system of only using voice so i switch to PC since i found out controller UI was being work on for it. its really bad that i was enjoying it til every day going into town was a nightmare, people swearing, making R ape jokes,screaming into their open mic or just blasting music to block out anyone trying to talk.

    Did you happen to be at the blacksmith in daggerfall last night? Perfect example of what you just said. There was a "naked men dance party" going on and they were all up on the smithing tables doing push ups on each other and blasting boy George songs. The stuff they were saying in voice chat would have been horribly offensive for most people but I'm so desensitized to our modern society I don't even care anymore. Lol

    nah i was on EB side in davon watch & it sounds just like what i see every damn day, it really bad that it happen in the first major city in the game too. if that isn't a good enough reason for text box then the other reasons that people have show to be valid aren't going to sway either like those whom are deaf & can't hear, i still haven't see one person give a good reason to that then just a troll reply of they can play on PC which is the same answer for everything.
  • SeptimusDova
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    Text chat would make it easier for the console peeps so yes
  • Alukit
    Alukit
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    Yes
    Vulsahdaal wrote: »
    Alukit wrote: »
    sadly i couldn't take the horrible state of the console chat system of only using voice so i switch to PC since i found out controller UI was being work on for it. its really bad that i was enjoying it til every day going into town was a nightmare, people swearing, making R ape jokes,screaming into their open mic or just blasting music to block out anyone trying to talk.

    Did you happen to be at the blacksmith in daggerfall last night? Perfect example of what you just said. There was a "naked men dance party" going on and they were all up on the smithing tables doing push ups on each other and blasting boy George songs. The stuff they were saying in voice chat would have been horribly offensive for most people but I'm so desensitized to our modern society I don't even care anymore. Lol

    Wasnt there but I think I ran onto that group before, learned some jokes from them that were guaranteed to offend almost everyone.. But being rather desensitized myself, I just ignored it and got out of there as soon as I could.
    However, I had left Xbox ESO sometime ago as I found the lack of ability to do things that are so easily done on PC theyre taken for granted, but left out of the console version due to lack of text chat, to be rather frustrating.
    But the other day I had to go back onto Xbox, as my PC characters all had a skill reset, and since they were copied to Xbox, figured I could maybe refresh my memory there.
    In Davons Watch, there was a kid there that even the most desensitized of us just couldnt ignore. He just continuously screamed non-stop into the mic as he ran back and forth, with no signs of quitting. Im not talking about ranting, there were no words involved, just screaming.
    To the frustration of many, he could not be muted in normal way of bring up his gamer card from list of people in area chat. It just came up with gamer card not available.
    Someone suggested (after a few attempts since he had to try to out-scream the screamer) that if we could click on him to bring up the menu, we maybe could get a gamer card to come up from there.
    But I suspect the screamer was onto us, which is probably why he was running in circles like that, and if anyone came near him he would quickly dodge out of their way. I gave up, just finished noting my skills and left, back to PC where one may run into such an idiot (though not as often as on console it seems) but at least they are quiet about it and much easier to ignore :)

    i know you pain so much, i did the same as you i am now on PC & just glad to not have to deal with it, i mean i waited for console release since at the time no controller support was going to come to PC but now knowing support will come & alot of the community has made decent controller add ons its been a gift from Azura
  • JackalWynter
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    Yes
    How many votes are needed before they listen to us? How many actual votes before an over 80% majority gets what they should have been given in the first place?

    And another thing, I wish these wise all knowing devs would actually try to play the game, on console, from scratch, alone and without chat buddies - like most people start.. and imagine themselves as a noob to the game, and just see how inaccessible communication is. Inaccessible, awkward, futile.

    Been playing for over a week now with virtually no communication with other players still. No interaction, I just watch them run through my world like the player visions in Dark Souls.

    Occasionally someone will stop for a few moments nearby, we stand around awkwardly looking at each other for a minute until one of us leaves, because effectively, in this world, most people are mute.

    The more I think about it, the more disgraceful this situation seems.

    If consoles diddn't support usb keyboards then this leaving out the chatbox would make some sense, but we know these keyboards work fine on our machines and they're dirt cheap.

    If this was some kind of brave experiment... kudos for trying, really.. but it has failed, time to address that.

    Final point, I wonder how pc users would feel if their game had no chatbox and their only form of communication was voice chat, I wonder how many would welcome that, some would for sure, but the majority would puke.
  • JackalWynter
    JackalWynter
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    Yes
    No apologies for harping on about this. This game is the game I have been waiting to play since I stopped playing NWN online way back when ago. So a week ago I check this game out and it's amazing...

    Good combat (for an MMO very good)
    Amazingly open huge world to explore, lots of interesting strangers and places
    Great character creation and interesting skill progression
    Had to grind quests a few days to afford a horse.. lol awesome!
    No minimap.. Yess!
    No potion spam.. good!
    Stealthplay.. not bad at all
    Crafting.. Yep
    I could carry on..
    Oh did I mention an amazingly open huge world full of other players?

    9/10 game

    No text chat

    6/10 game
  • Eshelmen
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    Yes
    No apologies for harping on about this. This game is the game I have been waiting to play since I stopped playing NWN online way back when ago. So a week ago I check this game out and it's amazing...

    Good combat (for an MMO very good)
    Amazingly open huge world to explore, lots of interesting strangers and places
    Great character creation and interesting skill progression
    Had to grind quests a few days to afford a horse.. lol awesome!
    No minimap.. Yess!
    No potion spam.. good!
    Stealthplay.. not bad at all
    Crafting.. Yep
    I could carry on..
    Oh did I mention an amazingly open huge world full of other players?

    9/10 game

    No text chat

    6/10 game

    Id say that, as an MMO vet like myself, making a total review in just one weeks time would be a tad too soon.

    Have you reached end game? Have you done PVP at VR14? Have you completed all dungeons? Have you completed Dragonstar Arena?
    Have you actually sold things that VR players buy?
    Have you joined and played with guilds and it's members that you've enjoyed and get along with?
    Have you maxed out any craftskills yet?
    How many end game sets do you know about? Or any sets of gear for that matter?
    Did you complete the main story?

    So many things to do, that a lot of us have done with out text chat.
    Please, do your self a favor, and keep pushing through. When you've done a majority of what I've mentioned, then please, make an assessment. But I feel your review is premature from barely scraping this game.
    PC and PS4 EP only player
  • RocksAreGood
    Yes
    I'm going to quit because there's no text chat. Sad face
  • Glorious_One
    Glorious_One
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    Yes
    Eshelmen wrote: »
    No apologies for harping on about this. This game is the game I have been waiting to play since I stopped playing NWN online way back when ago. So a week ago I check this game out and it's amazing...

    Good combat (for an MMO very good)
    Amazingly open huge world to explore, lots of interesting strangers and places
    Great character creation and interesting skill progression
    Had to grind quests a few days to afford a horse.. lol awesome!
    No minimap.. Yess!
    No potion spam.. good!
    Stealthplay.. not bad at all
    Crafting.. Yep
    I could carry on..
    Oh did I mention an amazingly open huge world full of other players?

    9/10 game

    No text chat

    6/10 game

    Id say that, as an MMO vet like myself, making a total review in just one weeks time would be a tad too soon.

    Have you reached end game? Have you done PVP at VR14? Have you completed all dungeons? Have you completed Dragonstar Arena?
    Have you actually sold things that VR players buy?
    Have you joined and played with guilds and it's members that you've enjoyed and get along with?
    Have you maxed out any craftskills yet?
    How many end game sets do you know about? Or any sets of gear for that matter?
    Did you complete the main story?

    So many things to do, that a lot of us have done with out text chat.
    Please, do your self a favor, and keep pushing through. When you've done a majority of what I've mentioned, then please, make an assessment. But I feel your review is premature from barely scraping this game.

    He never said those things arent possible without text chat, it is more difficult, invasive and annoying to do so without text.

    Communication is severely limited and having to jump threw hoops and being forced to use 3rd party programs to get it done (xbox chat, or psn chat, or skype, or a web forum. Yes I have used all for this game) is not good for an mmo, anything that takes you out of the game so you could communicate with other people in the game while you are playing breaks the flow and fluidity of the mmo. And not to mention even when using thise 3rd party programs, I am still limited with who I can speak to.

    The communication in this game is poor, and is severly below the expectations of an mmo. And for myself the lack of a text chat has killed my will to continue to try to form groups for any content, or from trying to trade anything outside of the guild traders. And frankly without these social aspects I find myself not even logging on nearly as much as I have before, and for me to feel like that after playing for roughly 2 months is not a good sign. I played dcuo since day one of their launch and I didnt feel like that untill 3 years of playing, and imo dcuo is not nearly as good as eso but it kept me because of the friends I made and pvp, There were different organized forms of pvp and I played in all of it competively. 1v1 2v2 and 5v5 to be more specific. And we held tournments and had cash prizes(real cash). Eso sadly makes grouping and communicating difficult and is killing my desire to play.

  • Siniztor
    Siniztor
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    Yes
    How many votes are needed before they listen to us? How many actual votes before an over 80% majority gets what they should have been given in the first place?

    And another thing, I wish these wise all knowing devs would actually try to play the game, on console, from scratch, alone and without chat buddies - like most people start.. and imagine themselves as a noob to the game, and just see how inaccessible communication is. Inaccessible, awkward, futile.

    Been playing for over a week now with virtually no communication with other players still. No interaction, I just watch them run through my world like the player visions in Dark Souls.

    Occasionally someone will stop for a few moments nearby, we stand around awkwardly looking at each other for a minute until one of us leaves, because effectively, in this world, most people are mute.

    The more I think about it, the more disgraceful this situation seems.

    If consoles diddn't support usb keyboards then this leaving out the chatbox would make some sense, but we know these keyboards work fine on our machines and they're dirt cheap.


    If this was some kind of brave experiment... kudos for trying, really.. but it has failed, time to address that.

    Final point, I wonder how pc users would feel if their game had no chatbox and their only form of communication was voice chat, I wonder how many would welcome that, some would for sure, but the majority would puke.

    This is what makes me mad..we dont need Keyboards....you type your mails just fine with your controller..the keyboard would be just optional..

    And yes the silence from the devs is nuts..they just keep on even in there live stream pretending this is only on pc now
  • MrGrimey
    MrGrimey
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    Yes
    I got by just fine without a keyboard on my ps4 with the other MMOs that I played. Just like typing on a real keyboard, you need practice... Btw, we don't need text chat in the middle of a dungeon run, that's what mica are for. We need text chat for LFG and trade functions
  • Dahkoht
    Dahkoht
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    Yes
    MrGrimey wrote: »
    I got by just fine without a keyboard on my ps4 with the other MMOs that I played. Just like typing on a real keyboard, you need practice... Btw, we don't need text chat in the middle of a dungeon run, that's what mica are for. We need text chat for LFG and trade functions

    Impossible.

    We've been told by the "experts" , all three of them , (chuckle) that without a keyboard typing can't be done , and even with a keyboard it still can't
    be done.

    You must be confused.

  • Ace_of_Destiny
    Ace_of_Destiny
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    Yes
    Just posted on a "PC" thread about the "new health bars" since the IC patch....
    CP5 wrote: »
    To clear up my first points, I was talking about the floating health bars over enemies heads, those were changed and i'm not a fan of those, will keep my opinion of the player and targeted enemy health bars until the ui re-scaling is fixed.

    I liked the old thin ones. I set them to only show when injured anyways.

    It might seem the "I just want a clean UI guy" just hates consoles...since he plays PC.
    Which just happens to be JUST LIKE the "other" guy...that plays PC..


    Two down...and two to go.
    EQUALIZE ALL PLATFORMS!
    IF ONE HAS IT...ALL SHOULD HAVE IT!
    !

    )==================================================(
    ~MegaServer~>PS4 (NA) ~PSN~>Ace-of-Destiny
    )===================================================(
    I don't care what platform it is on...an MMORPG without Text Chat is NOT an MMORPG!
  • Ace_of_Destiny
    Ace_of_Destiny
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    Yes
    Let us face it...we all knew it would NOT come with the IC.

    I invite you here: The New Poll: CLICK HERE!

    Let us all be involved.
    Bring back old voters, new voters, shy voters.
    Let the voice be heard!


    .
    EQUALIZE ALL PLATFORMS!
    IF ONE HAS IT...ALL SHOULD HAVE IT!
    !

    )==================================================(
    ~MegaServer~>PS4 (NA) ~PSN~>Ace-of-Destiny
    )===================================================(
    I don't care what platform it is on...an MMORPG without Text Chat is NOT an MMORPG!
  • urkonse
    urkonse
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    Yes
    Im so bored....cant do single group mission , my guild gets inactive because no1 can play with no1 as everyone doesnt use/have mic
    Lightning guild is recruiting active players at any level & skill ( PS4 , EU)
  • Mighty_oakk
    Mighty_oakk
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    Yes
    How many votes are needed before they listen to us? How many actual votes before an over 80% majority gets what they should have been given in the first place?

    And another thing, I wish these wise all knowing devs would actually try to play the game, on console, from scratch, alone and without chat buddies - like most people start.. and imagine themselves as a noob to the game, and just see how inaccessible communication is. Inaccessible, awkward, futile.

    Been playing for over a week now with virtually no communication with other players still. No interaction, I just watch them run through my world like the player visions in Dark Souls.

    Occasionally someone will stop for a few moments nearby, we stand around awkwardly looking at each other for a minute until one of us leaves, because effectively, in this world, most people are mute.

    The more I think about it, the more disgraceful this situation seems.

    If consoles diddn't support usb keyboards then this leaving out the chatbox would make some sense, but we know these keyboards work fine on our machines and they're dirt cheap.

    If this was some kind of brave experiment... kudos for trying, really.. but it has failed, time to address that.

    Final point, I wonder how pc users would feel if their game had no chatbox and their only form of communication was voice chat, I wonder how many would welcome that, some would for sure, but the majority would puke.

    Its amusing zos says people who are enjoying the game don't post on the forums and everything is fine making this feedback irrelevant.

    Then you look at the ps4 achievments and see 10% of people made it to level 50. People who don't like a game just move on. When 80% of an MMOs playerbase quits within the first few months everything is not fine.

    Everyone I know who quits primary complaint was lack of text.
  • JackalWynter
    JackalWynter
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    Yes
    Nice try AceofDestiny, but it looks like your new poll has been locked, looks like we just have to keep this train rolling. Interestingly and coincidentally, at the time of closure, the other poll had exactly the same percentage of votes - 83% for with 16% against.

    What fraction of these polls are pc plavers voting no (for whatever reason) no way to tell, but eitherway 83% is 83%

    That's 83% Zos, you hear that? EIGHTY THREE PERCENT MAJORITY ZOS YOU HEAR US????

    I'd like to hear from Zos about this, just how long do they intent to pretend this isn't an issue?

    Big issue, huge issue.. THE BIGGEST ISSUE FOR CONSOLE USERS

    dare I say.
  • JackalWynter
    JackalWynter
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    Yes
    I seem to be one of the more vocal players on this issue, and get this.. I'm a soloist, I aaalways solo, playing with other people just doesn't work with me, I get bored of running with the gang and chip off, do my own thing, one main reason is that I like to go at my own pace and my own pace is usually too slow for everyone else, rushing forward to gain the almighty next level.

    So even considering the above, this is still a huge game breaking issue for me. Can't imagine what it's like for players that are more sociable and like to group up yet for whatever reason (and there are a lot) they dont like using voice chat.. well I guess many of these people have already moved on.

    It says everything to me that after only a few days of playing (and thinking the game is wonderful) I find myself googling 'when is neverwinter coming to ps4' Now I haven't played Neverwinter, but I have done a little reading and I'm convinced that ESO is the better game... why you suppose I did that search then? Any ideas? ZOS??

    Instead of loading up ESO, I'm off now to find out a release date for No Man's Sky, go figure Zos go figure, you have ruined this experience for many.

    Applause
  • symonator
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    Since my video was removed of area chat on voice for breaking code of conduct.
    I think the point is that at least text chat would be much better to moderate, as obviously the area chat video was unacceptable.

    Another reason why we need a text chat box!
    Edited by symonator on September 6, 2015 2:33PM

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  • BigMac_Smiley
    BigMac_Smiley
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    Yes
    Let us face it...we all knew it would NOT come with the IC.

    I invite you here: The New Poll: CLICK HERE!

    Let us all be involved.
    Bring back old voters, new voters, shy voters.
    Let the voice be heard!


    .

    I do think the guy who created this thread said he would change the title when IC hits. I don't know why he does not just change it now, but everyone who post or follows this thread know this is more about text coming to the game at some point not when IC hits. I just hope the creator of this thread still logs on and follows this thread.
  • Nergie4242
    Nergie4242
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    Yes
    True the title is now misleading I suppose. Maybe ZOS wants it that way. Makes it less likely for new folk to see and comment here.
    You give me a chat box ZOS and I'll start giving you my money again.
  • Tholian1
    Tholian1
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    Yes
    Let us face it...we all knew it would NOT come with the IC.

    I invite you here: The New Poll: CLICK HERE!

    Let us all be involved.
    Bring back old voters, new voters, shy voters.
    Let the voice be heard!


    .

    I do think the guy who created this thread said he would change the title when IC hits. I don't know why he does not just change it now, but everyone who post or follows this thread know this is more about text coming to the game at some point not when IC hits. I just hope the creator of this thread still logs on and follows this thread.

    The creator of the thread probably isn't even playing the game anymore.

    Are you still around, @sirhctpac ?
    PS4 Pro NA
  • bareheiny
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    Yes
    Omg. Just play the game like the rest of the world. Everyone else is having a blast with the console version.
    Everyone else is having a blast....and yet here you are fanning the flames.

    And not just here....somebody raised a potentially valid and appropriate set of changes for voice in the "Ask ZOS" thread and you quickly jumped in and went on an anti pro-text chat rant.
  • JackalWynter
    JackalWynter
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    Yes
    Jesus, you know it's bad when there are loads of pc users coming in here saying they feel sorry for console users over this.

    I mean that's when you know you've hit rock bottom.. when you're getting pity from the master race.
  • ZOS_Racheal
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    Greetings everyone,

    Once again, we understand that people are going to disagree at times, but please remember to keep your comments respectful on our forums. Insults or other disruptive behavior do not help further discussion and can move a thread off topic quickly.

    We encourage sharing opinions, but we ask that they are constructively stated when doing so, as this will help keep the discussion on track. Thank you for your understanding, and please keep the Community Rules in mind when posting on the forums.
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  • JackalWynter
    JackalWynter
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    Yes
    Dear Mr Skinskull, do you play this game primarily on console?

    If so then certainly your input and opinion here is definitely to be most widely regarded.


  • dday3six
    dday3six
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    Yes
    ...

    Why does every review of this game, that I have read, mention no text chat a negative? Do you have an explanation for that?

    Then have you actually played any end game content. Cause I looked up your trophies, and you haven't logged even finishing the main story or fighters and mages guild for that matter. So I'm curious how you would know if it's an issue trying to find players for end game or not. If your not actually there.

    [Moderator Note: Removed moderated quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Racheal on September 7, 2015 12:59AM
  • Glorious_One
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    Yes
    I have reported a certain posters troll baiting comments. It is obvious that he has nothing positive or constructive to add to this post and hopefully zos will deal with his constant trolling and derailment.

    We should ignore the trolls and continue to bump this thread to bring more awareness and support for the dire need of text chat.
  • ZOS_Racheal
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    Greetings everyone,

    We have removed several comments from this thread for derailing, as well as inappropriate content. Thank you for your understanding, and please keep the Community Rules in mind when posting on the forums in order to prevent this thread from being locked.
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