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3 second kill. Damn, sorcs are better than nightblades!

  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    I'm really considering rolling a sorc, they seem to be the best class to play in PVP, particularly when stealthed. You can kill a V12 DK sword & board heavy armor tank, who is riding their horse ( me) in 3 seconds flat.

    I got knocked off my horse, was flat on the ground, then I got knocked down again. I ALMOST stood up when I was being attacked, but 100% of my health I was pretty much stunned. I know the sorc was stealthed and I was on my horse, which means the sorc had the advantage in this "fight".

    I don't see why anyone in their right mind would roll a stamina build (which I did). Not that it made much difference when I was being attacked, but if I'm doing the attacking it's going to take longer to kill someone than a sorc.

    And people who say sorcerers are being nerfed and are useless and who whine and moan about their precious bolt escape being nerfed. Learn to play.

    As you can see this guy must have proc'd crystal fragments, in the end he got a lucky 5% chance insta kill on me. Unfortunately you can't proc any stamina ability and you can't insta kill with any stamina ability.

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    here are my stats, you can laugh at them if you like

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    This guy again? Wow.

    He claims it was less than 3 seconds but look and see there are 3 fragments in a row. Even if the first one procced on an earlier cast it would still leave two that would be 3 seconds of induction (little alone attack duration or travel time).

    So again...this guy's 3 second claim is another lie. May I suggest L2p? And stop spamming the forums every time you die. We get it, you're bad at pvp.

    PS the death recap does not equal his hp. So again, we're not seeing the full fight.

    And that's because crystal fragments procced itself. Rofl you need to learn the skills before you start posting.

    There you have it folks. This is the skill it requires to post your death recaps and claim you died in under 3 seconds.

    So you're saying no one can die in under 3 seconds if its 2 v12 players against each other?
  • jelliedsoup
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    Valn wrote: »
    I'm really considering rolling a sorc, they seem to be the best class to play in PVP, particularly when stealthed. You can kill a V12 DK sword & board heavy armor tank, who is riding their horse ( me) in 3 seconds flat.

    I got knocked off my horse, was flat on the ground, then I got knocked down again. I ALMOST stood up when I was being attacked, but 100% of my health I was pretty much stunned. I know the sorc was stealthed and I was on my horse, which means the sorc had the advantage in this "fight".

    I don't see why anyone in their right mind would roll a stamina build (which I did). Not that it made much difference when I was being attacked, but if I'm doing the attacking it's going to take longer to kill someone than a sorc.

    And people who say sorcerers are being nerfed and are useless and who whine and moan about their precious bolt escape being nerfed. Learn to play.

    As you can see this guy must have proc'd crystal fragments, in the end he got a lucky 5% chance insta kill on me. Unfortunately you can't proc any stamina ability and you can't insta kill with any stamina ability.

    296d5b9.jpg

    here are my stats, you can laugh at them if you like

    2iuc492.jpg

    What's your point? Only NBS and templars should die like this?
    www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ks8_KGHqmO4
  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.

    And he wasn't. He just claims he was. But the math does not add up when you look at inductions and attack duration.

    I have screenshots to show this.

    You said I wasn't. Where is your proof? Where is your math disproving this?
  • Valn
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    Snit wrote: »
    If you get caught mounted, any geared-up V12 built for damage will kill you. Class doesn't matter. When you're in a contested area, and you're not in a group, dismount and sneak.

    Alternately, you can whine in the forums, but the dismounting thing actually works.

    I wasn't in a contested area. But I'm not going to sneak everywhere for the sake of "being aware of my surroundings". You can't see people in sneak
  • Mablung
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    Mablung wrote: »
    Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.

    Hey I know you!

    Hey Mab! I didn't know you were playing ESO.

    Yessir. Been playing since beta last year whilst we were also smashing faces in GW2.
  • Snit
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    Valn wrote: »
    Snit wrote: »
    If you get caught mounted, any geared-up V12 built for damage will kill you. Class doesn't matter. When you're in a contested area, and you're not in a group, dismount and sneak.

    Alternately, you can whine in the forums, but the dismounting thing actually works.

    I wasn't in a contested area. But I'm not going to sneak everywhere for the sake of "being aware of my surroundings". You can't see people in sneak

    You can see people while you're sneaking just fine. Also, if you got ganked, you were in a contested area.

    Horses kill their riders. Capping armor or spell resist don't help nearly as much as people expect. The things that do help are all active defenses -- block, immovable, the various forms of spell reflect, invisibility, etc. None of these are available when you get caught on horseback.

    I've ganked VR-level players on my Nightblade, who isn't even 20 yet. All of those killings were pony-related.
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  • timidobserver
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    Vis wrote: »
    Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.

    And he wasn't. He just claims he was. But the math does not add up when you look at inductions and attack duration.

    Whether it was 3 seconds or 6 seconds, you can still go down pretty fast in ESO even if you go full out defensive. Basically, in this game you get more bang for you buck by going full out damage as opposed to tank(unless you are a DK.)

    Mablung wrote: »
    Mablung wrote: »
    Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.

    Hey I know you!

    Hey Mab! I didn't know you were playing ESO.

    Yessir. Been playing since beta last year whilst we were also smashing faces in GW2.

    Yeh, I haven't logged into GW2 since ESO launched. I like PVP better in ESO, and I can actually stomach the PVE which wasn't the case with GW2.
    Edited by timidobserver on June 16, 2014 1:29AM
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  • jelliedsoup
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    If you're on your horse you can die in 3 seconds. If you're not a dk and not on your horse you can die in 3 seconds.
    www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ks8_KGHqmO4
  • Vis
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    Vis wrote: »
    Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.

    And he wasn't. He just claims he was. But the math does not add up when you look at inductions and attack duration.

    Whether it was 3 seconds or 6 seconds, you can still go down pretty fast in ESO even if you go full out defensive. Basically, in this game you get more bang for you buck by going full out damage as opposed to tank(unless you are a DK.)

    Mablung wrote: »
    Mablung wrote: »
    Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.

    Hey I know you!

    Hey Mab! I didn't know you were playing ESO.

    Yessir. Been playing since beta last year whilst we were also smashing faces in GW2.

    Yeh, I haven't logged into GW2 since ESO launched. I like PVP better in ESO, and I can actually stomach the PVE which wasn't the case with GW2.

    I agree anyone can go down in 6 seconds with no block or reactive skills up. Just refuting his claim of 3 seconds. His tank build bought him more time, even if it was 2-3 seconds. But being a tank build shouldn't buy you too much time if you are just standing there and taking it in the face.

    Heavy armor gives a little more miss but is better for the cost reductions in block and higher hp regeneration, neither of which are applicable when on your horse. He's crying foul because he thinks a tank should be a tank by virtue of their build regardless of any use of skill/reactives. Would be like me crying that my dps build did not kill another player with only light attacks.

    See the math, he took 3158 damage in his recap. He only has 2500 hp. So where did the extra 658 hp come from?

    A pot? He had time to pot.
    A self heal? He had time to self heal.
    HP regen? At 47, he had 28 seconds to regenerate.

    Regardless of how you look at it, he obviously had time to react and his 3 second claim is blatantly false. Any DK (especially one who claims to be a tank) can come back from an ambush if he has time to use green dragon blood.
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  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    See the math, he took 3158 damage in his recap. He only has 2500 hp. So where did the extra 658 hp come from?

    A pot? He had time to pot.
    A self heal? He had time to self heal.
    HP regen? At 47, he had 28 seconds to regenerate.

    Regardless of how you look at it, he obviously had time to react and his 3 second claim is blatantly false. Any DK (especially one who claims to be a tank) can come back from an ambush if he has time to use green dragon blood.

    Had no time to pot, I was knocked off my horse, immobile and stunned
    I can't self heal because I was immobile and stunned
    28 seconds to regenerate? What on earth are you talking about?

    Okay, here's the bombshell.

    You do not know how death recap works.

    The disintegration, the big 1212 damage was overkill

    The death recap shows how much damage was hit on me, NOT how much hp was taken away from me.

    And you do realise that when you respawn you go back to full health yeah?
    Edited by Valn on June 16, 2014 2:01AM
  • timidobserver
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    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.

    And he wasn't. He just claims he was. But the math does not add up when you look at inductions and attack duration.

    Whether it was 3 seconds or 6 seconds, you can still go down pretty fast in ESO even if you go full out defensive. Basically, in this game you get more bang for you buck by going full out damage as opposed to tank(unless you are a DK.)

    Mablung wrote: »
    Mablung wrote: »
    Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.

    Hey I know you!

    Hey Mab! I didn't know you were playing ESO.

    Yessir. Been playing since beta last year whilst we were also smashing faces in GW2.

    Yeh, I haven't logged into GW2 since ESO launched. I like PVP better in ESO, and I can actually stomach the PVE which wasn't the case with GW2.

    I agree anyone can go down in 6 seconds with no block or reactive skills up. Just refuting his claim of 3 seconds. His tank build bought him more time, even if it was 2-3 seconds. But being a tank build shouldn't buy you too much time if you are just standing there and taking it in the face.

    Heavy armor gives a little more miss but is better for the cost reductions in block and higher hp regeneration, neither of which are applicable when on your horse. He's crying foul because he thinks a tank should be a tank by virtue of their build regardless of any use of skill/reactives. Would be like me crying that my dps build did not kill another player with only light attacks.

    See the math, he took 3158 damage in his recap. He only has 2500 hp. So where did the extra 658 hp come from?

    A pot? He had time to pot.
    A self heal? He had time to self heal.
    HP regen? At 47, he had 28 seconds to regenerate.

    Regardless of how you look at it, he obviously had time to react and his 3 second claim is blatantly false. Any DK (especially one who claims to be a tank) can come back from an ambush if he has time to use green dragon blood.

    Eh, what you are saying is a bit over complicated for what I am saying. Obviously, no build should allow anyone to stand their invincible, but you get more out of dps than defense in this game.

    If you go full out dps you can utterly decimate someone in a very short amount of time. I run with nearly 50% crit. They should be smart enough to interrupt me, but if they don't, I can kill many players with a single Soul Assault.

    On the other hand, if you go full tank, then we are reduced to semantics and exact time and refuting 3 second because it was really more like 5 or 6 seconds.
    Edited by timidobserver on June 16, 2014 2:02AM
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    V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
    V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)

  • Vis
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    Even if it were. The 2 crystal fragment inductions (not including attack duration and/or travel time) still makes it longer than 3 seconds.
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  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    Even if it were. The 2 crystal fragment inductions (not including attack duration and/or travel time) still makes it longer than 3 seconds.

    Let's see your math then
  • Vis
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    Two crystal fragment inductions equals 2.6 seconds. That leave .4 seconds for attack duration. So he got off 4 skills at under .1 seconds each? Who are you trying to fool?
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  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    Two crystal fragment inductions equals 2.6 seconds. That leave .4 seconds for attack duration. So he got off 4 skills at under .1 seconds each? Who are you trying to fool?

    Crystal fragments 1.3 or instant
    Crystal fragments 1.3 or instant
    Crystal fragments 1.3 or instant

    Could be any way round. The guy might have an instant crystal fragments proc to begin with, cast crystal fragments, then proc it again. But lets assume he didnt' have the proc to begin with

    1.3
    Instant Proc
    1.3
    Light attack
    Insta kill from light attack

    With no lag you that could probably be about 3 seconds, but definitely under 3.5 seconds.

  • Vis
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    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.

    And he wasn't. He just claims he was. But the math does not add up when you look at inductions and attack duration.

    Whether it was 3 seconds or 6 seconds, you can still go down pretty fast in ESO even if you go full out defensive. Basically, in this game you get more bang for you buck by going full out damage as opposed to tank(unless you are a DK.)

    Mablung wrote: »
    Mablung wrote: »
    Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.

    Hey I know you!

    Hey Mab! I didn't know you were playing ESO.

    Yessir. Been playing since beta last year whilst we were also smashing faces in GW2.

    Yeh, I haven't logged into GW2 since ESO launched. I like PVP better in ESO, and I can actually stomach the PVE which wasn't the case with GW2.

    I agree anyone can go down in 6 seconds with no block or reactive skills up. Just refuting his claim of 3 seconds. His tank build bought him more time, even if it was 2-3 seconds. But being a tank build shouldn't buy you too much time if you are just standing there and taking it in the face.

    Heavy armor gives a little more miss but is better for the cost reductions in block and higher hp regeneration, neither of which are applicable when on your horse. He's crying foul because he thinks a tank should be a tank by virtue of their build regardless of any use of skill/reactives. Would be like me crying that my dps build did not kill another player with only light attacks.

    See the math, he took 3158 damage in his recap. He only has 2500 hp. So where did the extra 658 hp come from?

    A pot? He had time to pot.
    A self heal? He had time to self heal.
    HP regen? At 47, he had 28 seconds to regenerate.

    Regardless of how you look at it, he obviously had time to react and his 3 second claim is blatantly false. Any DK (especially one who claims to be a tank) can come back from an ambush if he has time to use green dragon blood.

    Eh, what you are saying is a bit over complicated for what I am saying. Obviously, no build should allow anyone to stand their invincible, but you get more out of dps than defense in this game.

    If you go full out dps you can utterly decimate someone in a very short amount of time. I run with nearly 50% crit. They should be smart enough to interrupt me, but if they don't, I can kill many players with a single Soul Assault.

    On the other hand, if you go full tank, then we are reduced to semantics and exact time and refuting 3 second because it was really more like 5 or 6 seconds.

    I agree with you.

    I am just caught up in the 3 seconds semantics with the op (not you) because his claim is only sorcs can do that, and we can't. But any class Can do 6 seconds.
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  • Hawke
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    Valn wrote: »
    I don`t use that skill as i go with a group so me escaping does nothing for them.

    Nice to see you posting in every thread i made right now being rude, i take it you dislike that i pointed out you are a troll? Good.

    Hopefully they will stop you from making a new thread every time you die during weekends....

    learn2quote

    and of course you'd go in a group. too scared to do anything solo most likely.

    now leave the thread, troll. go back in your cave.

    How about you learn to block so you survive more? Or use your interrupt? Or use Dodge to dodge the slow ass projectile from Crystal Shards?

    All you did was show people you are standing there like a statue while getting killed... good job!

    Seriously, this.

    When we fight on the battlefield, can you square off against me? 4 Crystal Shards... 4! That is insane, since it takes 3 seconds to cast each one.

    Can you show a video of this take down? I am curious to see how the damage is done and watch defensive actions you have taken.
  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »

    I agree with you.

    I am just caught up in the 3 seconds semantics with the op (not you) because his claim is only sorcs can do that, and we can't. But any class Can do 6 seconds.

    Oh sorcs can do it. Maybe you need a bit more practise, eventually you might get it down to 4 seconds or less if you're lucky with an insta kill at the end.
  • Vis
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    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Two crystal fragment inductions equals 2.6 seconds. That leave .4 seconds for attack duration. So he got off 4 skills at under .1 seconds each? Who are you trying to fool?

    Crystal fragments 1.3 or instant
    Crystal fragments 1.3 or instant
    Crystal fragments 1.3 or instant

    Could be any way round. The guy might have an instant crystal fragments proc to begin with, cast crystal fragments, then proc it again. But lets assume he didnt' have the proc to begin with

    1.3
    Instant Proc
    1.3
    Light attack
    Insta kill from light attack

    With no lag you that could probably be about 3 seconds, but definitely under 3.5 seconds.

    Will a GM please inform this guy CF CANNOT proc CF! He just won't believe the dozens of players who correct him on this and continues to think he can lie about 3 second take downs with 3 instant CFs.

    This level of ignorance lowers the overall IQ of the gaming world in general.
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  • Hawke
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    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    See the math, he took 3158 damage in his recap. He only has 2500 hp. So where did the extra 658 hp come from?

    A pot? He had time to pot.
    A self heal? He had time to self heal.
    HP regen? At 47, he had 28 seconds to regenerate.

    Regardless of how you look at it, he obviously had time to react and his 3 second claim is blatantly false. Any DK (especially one who claims to be a tank) can come back from an ambush if he has time to use green dragon blood.



    You do not know how death recap works.

    The disintegration, the big 1212 damage was overkill

    The death recap shows how much damage was hit on me, NOT how much hp was taken away from me.


    Disintegrate had nothing to do with you dying. Did it help? Yep. Because that basic attack happened and it proc'd. Unlucky you.

    But he could have done 10 other abilities that would have taken you out since you only had around 400hp left.

    Also, I dont think you understand what the death recap does either.

    FYI, and it was pointed out before... Crystal Shard takes 1.3 seconds to cast. You died in 9 seconds minimum.

    Again, I would love to see a video of this fight.
    Edited by Hawke on June 16, 2014 2:23AM
  • Valn
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    Hawke wrote: »

    Disintegrate had nothing to do with you dying. Did it help? Yep. Because that basic attack happened and it proc'd. Unlucky you.


    But he could have done 10 other abilities that would have taken you out since you only had around 400hp left.

    Also, I dont think you understand what the death recap does either.

    FYI, and it was pointed out before... Crystal Shard takes 1.3 seconds to cast. You died in 9 seconds minimum.

    Again, I would love to see a video of this fight.

    Where on earth did you get 9 seconds from? I've already shown the math in this thread. And you're right I would have had about 400hp left if he didnt get the lucky disintegrate on me, that would have given me enough time to use green dragon blood.
  • Hawke
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    Valn wrote: »
    Hawke wrote: »

    Disintegrate had nothing to do with you dying. Did it help? Yep. Because that basic attack happened and it proc'd. Unlucky you.


    But he could have done 10 other abilities that would have taken you out since you only had around 400hp left.

    Also, I dont think you understand what the death recap does either.

    FYI, and it was pointed out before... Crystal Shard takes 1.3 seconds to cast. You died in 9 seconds minimum.

    Again, I would love to see a video of this fight.

    Where on earth did you get 9 seconds from? I've already shown the math in this thread. And you're right I would have had about 400hp left if he didnt get the lucky disintegrate on me, that would have given me enough time to use green dragon blood.

    Ummm because the last attack will at least take 1-2 seconds to actually hit you because of the 'flight time'...

    And crystal fragments cannot proc off itself. Just FYI.


    Another FYI, If this was all at range... try losing line of sight, blocking the attacks, roll dodge (you have tons of stamina) or close the gap and interrupt him.

    It honestly looks like he took you down without a fight since you said you didn't have time to activate Green Dragon Blood.
  • Hawke
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    Hey dude, dont believe what I say,, but believe your own eyes..

    I am spamming crystal shards and you see the last one launching at 8 seconds.

    Then another 1-2 seconds for the light attack to hit. Just ignore the time after the last crystal shard launched.. I had to interrupt my stun so I could finish the fight :P

    Also, notice my magicka bar... After 4 shards I am tapped. If you dodged/blocked the attacks, you would have made that sorcerer your $*!@#.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9WN5Pv8y5s
    Edited by Hawke on June 16, 2014 3:09AM
  • Valn
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    Hawke wrote: »
    Hey dude, dont believe what I say,, but believe your own eyes..

    I am spamming crystal shards and you see the last one launching at 8 seconds.

    Then another 1-2 seconds for the light attack to hit. Just ignore the time after the last crystal shard launched.. I had to interrupt my stun so I could finish the fight :P

    Also, notice my magicka bar... After 4 shards I am tapped. If you dodged/blocked the attacks, you would have made that sorcerer your $*!@#.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9WN5Pv8y5s

    What's your character level?
    Xharacter stats?
    Also why are you showing it vs a mob?
    Can't you show it against another player?

    Anyway, put the video speed to 0.25

    And the time would only starts when the opponent is actually hit. Watching the video, just before the 3s mark you hit the mob, 6s mark you hit the 3rd crystal shard.

    That took you about 3 seconds to get the mob to about 15% health. Add that with a (light attack+disintegrate) and also with a proc from the crystal shards, less than 3s.

    Thank you for showing visual factual evidence and backing up my point. :)
    Edited by Valn on June 16, 2014 3:21AM
  • tordr86b16_ESO
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    ZOS_JasonL wrote: »
    Hey there, everyone. Please be sure to keep all comments respectful. It's okay to have differing opinions but we require all comments to be constructive. Thanks for your understanding.

    close the thread already...
  • countesscrownub18_ESO
    Valn wrote: »
    I'm really considering rolling a sorc, they seem to be the best class to play in PVP, particularly when stealthed. You can kill a V12 DK sword & board heavy armor tank, who is riding their horse ( me) in 3 seconds flat.

    I got knocked off my horse, was flat on the ground, then I got knocked down again. I ALMOST stood up when I was being attacked, but 100% of my health I was pretty much stunned. I know the sorc was stealthed and I was on my horse, which means the sorc had the advantage in this "fight".

    I don't see why anyone in their right mind would roll a stamina build (which I did). Not that it made much difference when I was being attacked, but if I'm doing the attacking it's going to take longer to kill someone than a sorc.

    And people who say sorcerers are being nerfed and are useless and who whine and moan about their precious bolt escape being nerfed. Learn to play.

    As you can see this guy must have proc'd crystal fragments, in the end he got a lucky 5% chance insta kill on me. Unfortunately you can't proc any stamina ability and you can't insta kill with any stamina ability.

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    here are my stats, you can laugh at them if you like

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    What's interesting about this is that Crystal Fragments does not work with disintegration. Disintegration is designed to work with electricity attacks.

    I am thinking his last attack was a lightning based AOE. Disintegration is a 5 percent chance if mob is below %.

    The only advantage to Crystal Fragments is that it does knock you down. If timed correctly I can keep a mob laying on the ground. Unfortunately the mana cost to use is extreme. So 3 casts is all I can get.
  • tordr86b16_ESO
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    The only advantage to Crystal Fragments is that it does knock you down. If timed correctly I can keep a mob laying on the ground. Unfortunately the mana cost to use is extreme. So 3 casts is all I can get.

    You never spam crystal fragment, you wait for PROCS. That is why you morp to Crystal Fragments... durr
  • Hawke
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    Valn wrote: »
    Hawke wrote: »
    Hey dude, dont believe what I say,, but believe your own eyes..

    I am spamming crystal shards and you see the last one launching at 8 seconds.

    Then another 1-2 seconds for the light attack to hit. Just ignore the time after the last crystal shard launched.. I had to interrupt my stun so I could finish the fight :P

    Also, notice my magicka bar... After 4 shards I am tapped. If you dodged/blocked the attacks, you would have made that sorcerer your $*!@#.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9WN5Pv8y5s

    What's your character level?
    Xharacter stats?
    Also why are you showing it vs a mob?
    Can't you show it against another player?

    Anyway, put the video speed to 0.25

    And the time would only starts when the opponent is actually hit. Watching the video, just before the 3s mark you hit the mob, 6s mark you hit the 3rd crystal shard.

    That took you about 3 seconds to get the mob to about 15% health. Add that with a (light attack+disintegrate) and also with a proc from the crystal shards, less than 3s.

    Thank you for showing visual factual evidence and backing up my point. :)

    Factual evidence that you had about 10-12 seconds minimum on a perfect run of 4 crystal fragments and a staff attack? Ok.

    That is all I was showing was the timing. Thought that was pretty clear... oh well.
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