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3 second kill. Damn, sorcs are better than nightblades!
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boogie95✭✭✭
wtf does his personal life have to do with this game. What ive read you are the one being rude they are telling you over and over what to do you just wont listenEdited by boogie95 on June 15, 2014 12:19PM1 -
AreoHotah✭✭✭✭Dude, no need to make a thread every time you get horse ambushed in Cyrodiil lol.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/109585/nb-just-killed-me-in-about-4-seconds/p1Hota'h, Dual-wield/bow full medium armor NB Khajiit from day 1.
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Devlinne✭✭✭I'm not sure...but i think u are aiming all these posts at the fact that when knocked from a horse, you are basically at the mercy of your attacker.
Guys who are saying..."then don't ride a horse" or something to that effect....SHAME on you. Don't ride a horse in CYRODIL? c'mon....don't blatantly troll.
Ok to OP. i and many here have been hit off a horse. SEE if this works for you.
when you get hit off your horse.
1: IMMIDIATELY hold your right mouse button down, and SPAM your left mouse button while holding your right button down.
2: Keep double tapping in a direction.
3: When you see you have either rolled ONCE or seen your character do that "rawaaarrr" breaking a cc animation. STOP everything your doing(except NEVER let go of that right mouse button) EAT A HP POT.(preferably a hp AND stam recovery pot, panacea of health if i remember correctly)
4: Find the source of your attacker. COUNTERATTACK .(you better not have let go of that right mouse button)
This MAY work for you. TRY it. Hope it helps.
If it doesn't then i would look into why it works for some ppl and not for you.
GL.Devlinne: VR12 NB
Demonos: VR12 Sorc
Devin Flames: VR12 DK
Hellzanger: VR12 Templar
Thats right. ALL CLASSES.1 -
monkeymystic✭✭✭✭✭Sorcerers are the hands down strongest and most versatile class at the moment. Roll a sorc, and you can play any role very good.
It's also superior in pvp, especially when used right along with critical surge.
Sorcerers are getting more buffed in 1.2 patch with summons becoming much more useful.
This is Elder Sorcerer Online, and the devs let them stay OP while they destroy other classes into the ground.2 -
Dealdrick✭✭✭ZOS_JasonL wrote: »We have reopened this thread. We have removed content that violated our forum Code of Conduct, and reactions to those violations. Please remember to keep further discussion on-topic, and avoid personal attacks against other users. If the conversation does not stay on-topic, we will be forced to closed this thread permanently. Thanks for your understanding.
Why? Why would you reopen this thread? Why is the OP not slapped with at least a temp ban?1 -
Bryong9ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭Dude, no need to make a thread every time you get horse ambushed in Cyrodiil lol.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/109585/nb-just-killed-me-in-about-4-seconds/p1
ROFL this ^
So I'm starting to realize that the majority of people that complain about another class really have no idea what they are doing. They think just because they are not winning with their class is because they MUST be playing against a broken class that needs a nerf! It has nothing to do with SKILL and that they just maybe out playing me....OOoh NOo, that is impossible! I'm am the best at this game and no one can beat me! And if they do, their class NEEDS TO BE NERFED!! I am far to lazy to get skill so just hand my win over to me and Nerf everyone but me!
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jelliedsoup✭✭✭✭✭If I get caught on my horse then I die. Fair enough.
Dks only like killing in 3 secs not dying in 3 secs. The amount of times i've died in 3 seconds when fighting a sorc and not being on my horse would fill this forum.
Harden up.www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ks8_KGHqmO41 -
SilverWF✭✭✭✭✭
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Wow, our "PRO" in keeping/breaking distances was killed again, LOLI'm really considering rolling a sorc, they seem to be the best class to play in PVP, particularly when stealthed. You can kill a V12 DK sword & board heavy armor tank, who is riding their horse ( me) in 3 seconds flat.
I got knocked off my horse, was flat on the ground, then I got knocked down again. I ALMOST stood up when I was being attacked, but 100% of my health I was pretty much stunned. I know the sorc was stealthed and I was on my horse, which means the sorc had the advantage in this "fight".
I don't see why anyone in their right mind would roll a stamina build (which I did). Not that it made much difference when I was being attacked, but if I'm doing the attacking it's going to take longer to kill someone than a sorc.
And people who say sorcerers are being nerfed and are useless and who whine and moan about their precious bolt escape being nerfed. Learn to play.
As you can see this guy must have proc'd crystal fragments, in the end he got a lucky 5% chance insta kill on me. Unfortunately you can't proc any stamina ability and you can't insta kill with any stamina ability.
here are my stats, you can laugh at them if you like
Jaiyce! How dare you was in killing our TOP-player?! Shame on you! Ban him immidiately!- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
- YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
- EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
- Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
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SilverWF✭✭✭✭✭
✭He post every freaking death recap and claim other classes op.
I would not believe a word from him until he actually re roll something else.
Let the thread sink.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]
Yeah
And since there was no time of fight at recap - he can say everything
Next thread will be: "I've been killed by DK in ONE second!"
And death recap with 20 strings of damage attached
- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
- YouTube: All ESO disguises (2014)
- EU players are humans too! We want our maintenances in the least pop time (at deep night) and not lasted for several hours!
- Animation canceR - is true PvP cancer! When you can't see which actions your opponent do - you can't react properly on them!
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We will have to close this thread if this sort of behavior continues.2 -
FrauPerchta✭✭✭30 Stamina, there's your problem. Stamina is broken which sux because I want a no Magic character too.0
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So the trolls get their way if they troll enough basically?1 -
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So the trolls get their way if they troll enough basically?
Yes.1 -
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So the trolls get their way if they troll enough basically?
Whats that old saying about the pot and the kettle?0 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
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Mablung✭✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.
Hey I know you!1 -
Dealdrick✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.
TTK in this game is very low. Someone getting an opener is often all the difference needed.0 -
Mablung✭✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.
TTK in this game is very low. Someone getting an opener is often all the difference needed.
Not to mention that mitigation in PvE and PvP seem to follow different rules. I believe damage mitigation in this game was meant to only come in the form of dodge roll.1 -
Dealdrick✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.
TTK in this game is very low. Someone getting an opener is often all the difference needed.
Not to mention that mitigation in PvE and PvP seem to follow different rules. I believe damage mitigation in this game was meant to only come in the form of dodge roll.
That and actively blocking, but ya, agreed.0 -
Phantorang✭✭✭✭demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »glitchmaster999 wrote: »demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »glitchmaster999 wrote: »
Using a two hander from stealth you can one shot a sorc if you play your cards right, too bad they all run magelight and you never get to play your cards right. A ranged damage that with a cc should never of been allowed to hit that hard when you spam cast it, it should be more of a once off skill to cc the enemy or if they want it to do high dps, get rid of the damn knockdown. If they put a one second stun at the end of strife, everyone would go nightblade. My friend mains sorc and he can 1v1 overland bosses that are 2 vet levels higher just by spamming crystal shards and kiting... stamina builds just really arent in a good place right now and its really upsetting, I changed my nightblade to a nightstick last night because I was sick of it... dps almost doubled.
No you cant... Uppercuts sneak attack crit damage is nerfed against players. I can hit an NPC for 2.5k with it, but I sneak attack crit a clothie for barely 1k. Ive gotten 1.3k against some noob players, like lvl10 lol. Still not the 2.5k I could do to an NPC.
The highest I have hit in pvp was 2k with uppercut, thats with over charged weapon damage and reapers mark though, I know armor is more effective in pvp but thats the only damage nerf I could think of.
The problem with this is that uppercuts non-sneak damage isn't reduced "by armor" nearly as much as its sneak attack is. I still do 500's with the normal hit, but the sneak is more than halved vs a player. You would probably end up doing 4k or something to an NPC with reapers mark.
Huh? 4k?Fimbulwinter Recruiting true Vikings | Campaigns score | EU PC0 -
crislevin✭✭✭✭✭
✭Everyone,
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We will have to close this thread if this sort of behavior continues.
close it already, or merge all his death while horsed threads together.
you edit my post because I called him a troll, and you left all his name-calling in place?
what is this favoritism?2 -
Tip: if you're stam class and you're riding around in the open at least have sword and board up and always..always keep defensive stance up. It lasts 30 seconds and reflects spells back at caster and stuns them for 2 seconds. If you're out running around and like...lalalalalalaaaaaaaaaaa I don't feel sad you died
P.S go roll a sorc if ya like, but something tells me they are next on the "to be gimped" list0 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.
Hey I know you!
Hey Mab! I didn't know you were playing ESO.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)0 -
hamon✭✭✭✭✭
✭timidobserver wrote: »Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.
yes ive been saying this for a long time mitigation is just borked. which is why heavy armour doesnt feel any more tanky than light .. and you get crap passives when you wear heavy
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Vis✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm really considering rolling a sorc, they seem to be the best class to play in PVP, particularly when stealthed. You can kill a V12 DK sword & board heavy armor tank, who is riding their horse ( me) in 3 seconds flat.
I got knocked off my horse, was flat on the ground, then I got knocked down again. I ALMOST stood up when I was being attacked, but 100% of my health I was pretty much stunned. I know the sorc was stealthed and I was on my horse, which means the sorc had the advantage in this "fight".
I don't see why anyone in their right mind would roll a stamina build (which I did). Not that it made much difference when I was being attacked, but if I'm doing the attacking it's going to take longer to kill someone than a sorc.
And people who say sorcerers are being nerfed and are useless and who whine and moan about their precious bolt escape being nerfed. Learn to play.
As you can see this guy must have proc'd crystal fragments, in the end he got a lucky 5% chance insta kill on me. Unfortunately you can't proc any stamina ability and you can't insta kill with any stamina ability.
here are my stats, you can laugh at them if you like
This guy again? Wow.
He claims it was less than 3 seconds but look and see there are 3 fragments in a row. Even if the first one procced on an earlier cast it would still leave two that would be 3 seconds of induction (little alone attack duration or travel time).
So again...this guy's 3 second claim is another lie. May I suggest L2p? And stop spamming the forums every time you die. We get it, you're bad at pvp.
PS the death recap does not equal his hp. So again, we're not seeing the full fight.Edited by Vis on June 16, 2014 1:03AMv14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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Valn✭✭✭✭✭I'm really considering rolling a sorc, they seem to be the best class to play in PVP, particularly when stealthed. You can kill a V12 DK sword & board heavy armor tank, who is riding their horse ( me) in 3 seconds flat.
I got knocked off my horse, was flat on the ground, then I got knocked down again. I ALMOST stood up when I was being attacked, but 100% of my health I was pretty much stunned. I know the sorc was stealthed and I was on my horse, which means the sorc had the advantage in this "fight".
I don't see why anyone in their right mind would roll a stamina build (which I did). Not that it made much difference when I was being attacked, but if I'm doing the attacking it's going to take longer to kill someone than a sorc.
And people who say sorcerers are being nerfed and are useless and who whine and moan about their precious bolt escape being nerfed. Learn to play.
As you can see this guy must have proc'd crystal fragments, in the end he got a lucky 5% chance insta kill on me. Unfortunately you can't proc any stamina ability and you can't insta kill with any stamina ability.
here are my stats, you can laugh at them if you like
This guy again? Wow.
He claims it was less than 3 seconds but look and see there are 3 fragments in a row. Even if the first one procced on an earlier cast it would still leave two that would be 3 seconds of induction (little alone attack duration or travel time).
So again...this guy's 3 second claim is another lie. May I suggest L2p? And stop spamming the forums every time you die. We get it, you're bad at pvp.
PS the death recap does not equal his hp. So again, we're not seeing the full fight.
"This guy again?"
Thats because i made the thread. *facepalm*
And that's because crystal fragments procced itself. Rofl you need to learn the skills before you start posting.
You say i'm bad at pvp, yet you're the one constantly whining about your bolt escape, because you can no longer run away from a fight
Thanks.
Edited by Valn on June 16, 2014 1:25AM1 -
Snit✭✭✭✭✭
✭If you get caught mounted, any geared-up V12 built for damage will kill you. Class doesn't matter. When you're in a contested area, and you're not in a group, dismount and sneak.
Alternately, you can whine in the forums, but the dismounting thing actually works.Snit AD Sorc
Ratbag AD Warden Tank
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Vis✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm really considering rolling a sorc, they seem to be the best class to play in PVP, particularly when stealthed. You can kill a V12 DK sword & board heavy armor tank, who is riding their horse ( me) in 3 seconds flat.
I got knocked off my horse, was flat on the ground, then I got knocked down again. I ALMOST stood up when I was being attacked, but 100% of my health I was pretty much stunned. I know the sorc was stealthed and I was on my horse, which means the sorc had the advantage in this "fight".
I don't see why anyone in their right mind would roll a stamina build (which I did). Not that it made much difference when I was being attacked, but if I'm doing the attacking it's going to take longer to kill someone than a sorc.
And people who say sorcerers are being nerfed and are useless and who whine and moan about their precious bolt escape being nerfed. Learn to play.
As you can see this guy must have proc'd crystal fragments, in the end he got a lucky 5% chance insta kill on me. Unfortunately you can't proc any stamina ability and you can't insta kill with any stamina ability.
here are my stats, you can laugh at them if you like
This guy again? Wow.
He claims it was less than 3 seconds but look and see there are 3 fragments in a row. Even if the first one procced on an earlier cast it would still leave two that would be 3 seconds of induction (little alone attack duration or travel time).
So again...this guy's 3 second claim is another lie. May I suggest L2p? And stop spamming the forums every time you die. We get it, you're bad at pvp.
PS the death recap does not equal his hp. So again, we're not seeing the full fight.
And that's because crystal fragments procced itself. Rofl you need to learn the skills before you start posting.
There you have it folks. This is the skill it requires to post your death recaps and claim you died in under 3 seconds.
Edited by Vis on June 16, 2014 1:11AMv14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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v14 NB 'Vis
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Vis✭✭✭✭✭
✭timidobserver wrote: »Mitigation mechanics definitely aren't in line with damage mechanics. By default anyone with capped armor and spell resist should never be killed in 3 seconds by one person.
And he wasn't. He just claims he was. But the math does not add up when you look at inductions and attack duration.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
v14 DK Costs
v14 NB 'Vis
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You should try it, almost 600 damage with crystal fragments. The best I can hit is 322 with a stamina ability.