NB just killed me in about 4 seconds

  • Vis
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    psufan5 wrote: »
    VR12 NB here, full legendary gear, rank 15. I have never killed an equal rank DK who was in heavy armor, and not afk. You simply cannot kill them, and if you died to one, you are probably a victim of a glitch. It takes 4 people to kill a DK, which is the definition of overpowered.

    You can't attack them from range - they reflect everything back to you.
    You can't attack them up close, that is suicide.
    Even if you manage to get them low, they will self-heal back to full in a second.
    Yes, his stats though answers a lot as to how he actually died (just see the screen short).
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  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
    Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.

    it is under 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. how difficult is that for you to understand?

    He still does not get it. I can use mage's fury AFTER you hit 20‰. For a guy who talks about school holidays so much, you could use some time back in the classroom son.

    You don't understand how any of the abilities in this game work. Son you should do some research before you make yourself look stupid. Keep crying, boy :)

    Or God, this guy thinks:

    -crystal fragments proc on themselves
    -heavy attacks are instacast
    -weapon crit is not important to range or melee
    -mage's fury cannot be used after he is under 20‰

    I really need to give you some room.

    1. Crystal fragments proc on themselves, ive proven this in the thread
    2. Heavy attacks aren't instacast unless you've charged it before combat
    3. No point in bringing my weapon crit level into the argument when I can't even swing my sword at a RANGED class
    4. it's endless fury, the morph of mages fury.

    Son you should do some research.
  • Reykice
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    Zenimax is not done fixing NB`s so wait until the next patches when they get even better...

    Maybe other classes should start making threads and posting all over the forum...
    Edited by Reykice on June 10, 2014 11:54AM
  • Valn
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    Venithar wrote: »

    i meant for the opener the heavy attack was instacast because it was already charged. obviously they aren't instacast while in combat. my mistake.
    Edited by Valn on June 10, 2014 11:55AM
  • crislevin
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    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Went to same place, a sorc (i think) attacked me out of stealth. Killed me in 3 seconds. He was Veteran rank 1 as well. 2hqv4fl.jpg

    This is unlikely 3 seconds. There are no oher damage spells on you and each shard is 1.5 seconds.

    incorrect:

    first shard was likely an instant cast, as such, I could see that fight ending in 3 seconds.
    How? heavy and light attack doesn't proc instant shard.

    This game is a sneak fest, sneakers win majority of the time, nothing to get hang up on.
    Edited by crislevin on June 10, 2014 11:57AM
  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    psufan5 wrote: »
    VR12 NB here, full legendary gear, rank 15. I have never killed an equal rank DK who was in heavy armor, and not afk. You simply cannot kill them, and if you died to one, you are probably a victim of a glitch. It takes 4 people to kill a DK, which is the definition of overpowered.

    You can't attack them from range - they reflect everything back to you.
    You can't attack them up close, that is suicide.
    Even if you manage to get them low, they will self-heal back to full in a second.
    Yes, his stats though answers a lot as to how he actually died (just see the screen short).

    screenshot*

    *facepalm*

    anyway explain to me how my stats show how i died?
    Edited by Valn on June 10, 2014 11:57AM
  • dennis.schmelzleb16_ESO
    Critical surge could have procced the first shard, then he charged the heavy attack, cancelt animation of the light attack and shot crystal shard, casted mages wrath, which procced the second shard.

    Overall I dont like the speed of fights in PvP in this game. Too fast, too many kills out of stealth in seconds. (Also got killed by NBs within seconds and unable to do anything. I have 3000hp and spellresist at least at softcap. But also killed people within seconds. Especially deadric curse, shard, mages wrath soulstrike is killing even people going full hp in seconds (about 5 secs here but also 450+700+700+2000 damage, so even if he heals...))

    Either damage should be reduced or more mitigation, making fights more tactical. With some builds its 80% first hit out of stealth = win.

    And yeah I tried going for more survivability, but as it doesnt change much towards the duration of fights as long as the enemy attacks from stealth, so glass cannon is the way to go (and as light armor is giving best spell resist it isnt even glas cannon with 90 % spells cast on you).
  • Venithar
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    crislevin wrote: »
    How? heavy and light attack doesn't proc instant shard.

    I can BE and remain stealthed, which also procs my shards, I assume a person can streak with the same effect, so there are 2 options, option A: mage just killed someone and got back into stealth before attacking him or option B: mage streaked in and proc'd his shards while remaining stealthed.
  • Vis
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    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    I'm
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
    Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.

    it is under 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. how difficult is that for you to understand?

    He still does not get it. I can use mage's fury AFTER you hit 20‰. For a guy who talks about school holidays so much, you could use some time back in the classroom son.

    You don't understand how any of the abilities in this game work. Son you should do some research before you make yourself look stupid. Keep crying, boy :)

    Or God, this guy thinks:

    -crystal fragments proc on themselves
    -heavy attacks are instacast
    -weapon crit is not important to range or melee
    -mage's fury cannot be used after he is under 20‰

    I really need to give you some room.

    1. Crystal fragments proc on themselves, ive proven this in the thread
    2. Heavy attacks aren't instacast unless you've charged it before combat
    3. No point in bringing my weapon crit level into the argument when I can't even swing my sword at a RANGED class
    4. it's endless fury, the morph of mages fury.

    Son you should do some research.

    This says it all folks.


    1. Will someone else please educate him on this?
    2. You cannot hold a charge on a destruction staff like bows (face palm)
    3. All melee weapon lines have a gap closer or ranged skill (so yeah, crit matters)
    4. Double face palm, BOTH morphs of mage's fury can be used AFTER you are under 20‰
    5. Why has it suddenly become my job to teach a baddie the basics? I guess it's not my job and that's on me.
    Edited by Vis on June 10, 2014 12:00PM
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  • crislevin
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    Venithar wrote: »
    crislevin wrote: »
    How? heavy and light attack doesn't proc instant shard.

    I can BE and remain stealthed, which also procs my shards, I assume a person can streak with the same effect, so there are 2 options, option A: mage just killed someone and got back into stealth before attacking him or option B: mage streaked in and proc'd his shards while remaining stealthed.

    nevermind, I am not here to argue if OP is killed in 3 or 4 sec, makes little difference to me.

    just odd he got killed multiple times by different classes at the same spot.
  • Vis
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    Venithar wrote: »
    crislevin wrote: »
    How? heavy and light attack doesn't proc instant shard.

    I can BE and remain stealthed, which also procs my shards, I assume a person can streak with the same effect, so there are 2 options, option A: mage just killed someone and got back into stealth before attacking him or option B: mage streaked in and proc'd his shards while remaining stealthed.

    Both could be true. But the second one would be an induction cast refuting this guy's 3 second claim.
    Edited by Vis on June 10, 2014 12:04PM
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  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    I'm
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
    Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.

    it is under 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. how difficult is that for you to understand?

    He still does not get it. I can use mage's fury AFTER you hit 20‰. For a guy who talks about school holidays so much, you could use some time back in the classroom son.

    You don't understand how any of the abilities in this game work. Son you should do some research before you make yourself look stupid. Keep crying, boy :)

    Or God, this guy thinks:

    -crystal fragments proc on themselves
    -heavy attacks are instacast
    -weapon crit is not important to range or melee
    -mage's fury cannot be used after he is under 20‰

    I really need to give you some room.

    1. Crystal fragments proc on themselves, ive proven this in the thread
    2. Heavy attacks aren't instacast unless you've charged it before combat
    3. No point in bringing my weapon crit level into the argument when I can't even swing my sword at a RANGED class
    4. it's endless fury, the morph of mages fury.

    Son you should do some research.

    This says it all folks.


    1. Will someone else please educate him on this?
    2. You cannot hold a charge on a destruction staff like bows (face palm)
    3. All melee weapon lines have a gap closer or ranged skill (so yeah, crit matters)
    4. Double face palm, BOTH morphs of mage's fury can be used AFTER you are under 20‰
    5. Why has it suddenly become my job to teach a baddie the basics? I guess it's not my job and that's on me.

    1. You don't know any of the skills or how they work, keep digging deeper and deeper. You've been proven wrong yet you still cant accept it. You probably think the world is shaped like a square or something
    2. You can't hold charge on staves for a heavy attack? good lord
    3. Crit doesnt matter when you've been knocked down, and you can't melee someone whos 25m away because they are out of your range. my crit level is irrelevant in this.
    4. He used endless fury, so use the right spells before you comment.
    5. go back to school, son.
    6. Also seek medical advice for your anger. You need to go outside for once and get some fresh air.
    Edited by Valn on June 10, 2014 12:06PM
  • Vis
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    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    I'm
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
    Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.

    it is under 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. how difficult is that for you to understand?

    He still does not get it. I can use mage's fury AFTER you hit 20‰. For a guy who talks about school holidays so much, you could use some time back in the classroom son.

    You don't understand how any of the abilities in this game work. Son you should do some research before you make yourself look stupid. Keep crying, boy :)

    Or God, this guy thinks:

    -crystal fragments proc on themselves
    -heavy attacks are instacast
    -weapon crit is not important to range or melee
    -mage's fury cannot be used after he is under 20‰

    I really need to give you some room.

    1. Crystal fragments proc on themselves, ive proven this in the thread
    2. Heavy attacks aren't instacast unless you've charged it before combat
    3. No point in bringing my weapon crit level into the argument when I can't even swing my sword at a RANGED class
    4. it's endless fury, the morph of mages fury.

    Son you should do some research.

    This says it all folks.


    1. Will someone else please educate him on this?
    2. You cannot hold a charge on a destruction staff like bows (face palm)
    3. All melee weapon lines have a gap closer or ranged skill (so yeah, crit matters)
    4. Double face palm, BOTH morphs of mage's fury can be used AFTER you are under 20‰
    5. Why has it suddenly become my job to teach a baddie the basics? I guess it's not my job and that's on me.

    1. You don't know any of the skills or how they work, keep digging deeper and deeper. You've been proven wrong yet you still cant accept it. You probably think the world is shaped like a square or something
    2. You can't hold charge on staves for a heavy attack? good lord
    3. Crit doesnt matter when you've been knocked down, and you can't melee someone whos 25m away because they are out of your range. my crit level is irrelevant in this.
    4. He used endless fury, so use the right spells before you comment.
    5. go back to school, son.

    He did all the talking for me. Nothing to add. See for yourselves how much he knows.
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  • egosumacunnus
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    Malmai wrote: »
    Wine with Cheese ?

    Cheese with wine surely.

    If real life had a block function i would go out more.

    Proud to have spent a year paying to BETA test ESO for consoles.

    Error Code 301
  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    I'm
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
    Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.

    it is under 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. how difficult is that for you to understand?

    He still does not get it. I can use mage's fury AFTER you hit 20‰. For a guy who talks about school holidays so much, you could use some time back in the classroom son.

    You don't understand how any of the abilities in this game work. Son you should do some research before you make yourself look stupid. Keep crying, boy :)

    Or God, this guy thinks:

    -crystal fragments proc on themselves
    -heavy attacks are instacast
    -weapon crit is not important to range or melee
    -mage's fury cannot be used after he is under 20‰

    I really need to give you some room.

    1. Crystal fragments proc on themselves, ive proven this in the thread
    2. Heavy attacks aren't instacast unless you've charged it before combat
    3. No point in bringing my weapon crit level into the argument when I can't even swing my sword at a RANGED class
    4. it's endless fury, the morph of mages fury.

    Son you should do some research.

    This says it all folks.


    1. Will someone else please educate him on this?
    2. You cannot hold a charge on a destruction staff like bows (face palm)
    3. All melee weapon lines have a gap closer or ranged skill (so yeah, crit matters)
    4. Double face palm, BOTH morphs of mage's fury can be used AFTER you are under 20‰
    5. Why has it suddenly become my job to teach a baddie the basics? I guess it's not my job and that's on me.

    1. You don't know any of the skills or how they work, keep digging deeper and deeper. You've been proven wrong yet you still cant accept it. You probably think the world is shaped like a square or something
    2. You can't hold charge on staves for a heavy attack? good lord
    3. Crit doesnt matter when you've been knocked down, and you can't melee someone whos 25m away because they are out of your range. my crit level is irrelevant in this.
    4. He used endless fury, so use the right spells before you comment.
    5. go back to school, son.

    He did all the talking for me. Nothing to add. See for yourselves how much he knows.

    Well you've lost the argument, if you have nothing to add I guess you can leave now and do some homework or something. Bye!
  • Krivasran
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    As a sorceror, I attest that I cannot hold the charge on my staff. It auto pews. Ido say I can fire the heavy attack faster then the animation suggests.
    You've mistaken me for someone who cares.
  • Vis
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    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    I'm
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
    Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.

    it is under 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. how difficult is that for you to understand?

    He still does not get it. I can use mage's fury AFTER you hit 20‰. For a guy who talks about school holidays so much, you could use some time back in the classroom son.

    You don't understand how any of the abilities in this game work. Son you should do some research before you make yourself look stupid. Keep crying, boy :)

    Or God, this guy thinks:

    -crystal fragments proc on themselves
    -heavy attacks are instacast
    -weapon crit is not important to range or melee
    -mage's fury cannot be used after he is under 20‰

    I really need to give you some room.

    1. Crystal fragments proc on themselves, ive proven this in the thread
    2. Heavy attacks aren't instacast unless you've charged it before combat
    3. No point in bringing my weapon crit level into the argument when I can't even swing my sword at a RANGED class
    4. it's endless fury, the morph of mages fury.

    Son you should do some research.

    This says it all folks.


    1. Will someone else please educate him on this?
    2. You cannot hold a charge on a destruction staff like bows (face palm)
    3. All melee weapon lines have a gap closer or ranged skill (so yeah, crit matters)
    4. Double face palm, BOTH morphs of mage's fury can be used AFTER you are under 20‰
    5. Why has it suddenly become my job to teach a baddie the basics? I guess it's not my job and that's on me.

    1. You don't know any of the skills or how they work, keep digging deeper and deeper. You've been proven wrong yet you still cant accept it. You probably think the world is shaped like a square or something
    2. You can't hold charge on staves for a heavy attack? good lord
    3. Crit doesnt matter when you've been knocked down, and you can't melee someone whos 25m away because they are out of your range. my crit level is irrelevant in this.
    4. He used endless fury, so use the right spells before you comment.
    5. go back to school, son.
    6. Also seek medical advice for your anger. You need to go outside for once and get some fresh air.

    1.) http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/does-crystal-fragments-proc-of-itself/

    2.) I challenge you to charge a heavy attack on a staff and hold it until a target comes (like on a bow).

    3.) http://www.esohead.com/skills/28448-critical-charge
    http://www.esohead.com/skills/41506-shield-charge
    http://www.esohead.com/skills/40622-flying-blade

    4.) The morphs all have the same 20% condition and can be used After you fall below 20% (for the hundredth time)

    5.) Points 1-4 seems to suggest you need to learn how to read.

    6.) Says the guy who made an entire thread to QQ about dying in pvp
    Edited by Vis on June 10, 2014 12:22PM
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  • drackonir
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    Krivasran wrote: »
    As a sorceror, I attest that I cannot hold the charge on my staff. It auto pews. Ido say I can fire the heavy attack faster then the animation suggests.

    As DK with a stick I can indeed cast heavy attacks as fast as light attacks but in PvP I just switch to S+B and chaaaaaaarge!

    OP remember this! As a DK you dont wait to be attacked, you need to attack first! And then you can just chope them to pieces. Save stamina, your charge will catch up with their bolt escape :)
    "Even Gods dislike the absolute, for it stinks of something larger than themselves."
    Sotha Sil
  • Baskat
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    Nightblades are made for surprise and quick kills. I would even say: If a nightblade is not able to wound you deadly in 4 seconds, you will win.
    So if a DK is prepared, he will most certainly own a NB in a 1v1 (assuming same level and same player skill).
  • Vis
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    drackonir wrote: »
    Krivasran wrote: »
    As a sorceror, I attest that I cannot hold the charge on my staff. It auto pews. Ido say I can fire the heavy attack faster then the animation suggests.

    As DK with a stick I can indeed cast heavy attacks as fast as light attacks but in PvP I just switch to S+B and chaaaaaaarge!

    OP remember this! As a DK you dont wait to be attacked, you need to attack first! And then you can just chope them to pieces. Save stamina, your charge will catch up with their bolt escape :)

    You are 100% right, though if you look at the stats he posted you will see even he would have a hard time keeping his stamina up charging against BE.
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  • MongooseOne
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    This is the funniest thread I have read here to date!
    I honestly can't tell if Valn is being serious or not at this point, he is so wrong on all his Sorcerer information I almost think he is trolling.
  • Vis
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    This is the funniest thread I have read here to date!
    I honestly can't tell if Valn is being serious or not at this point, he is so wrong on all his Sorcerer information I almost think he is trolling.

    I suspect he's trolling too and I am really kicking myself for all the wasted time. But hey, what else is there to do at an airport?
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  • Gisgo
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    Valn wrote: »
    Slow clap for the v12 "stamina build" with 70 stamina regeneration and 0% weapon crit.

    What struck me was the 142 weapon damage :o
    You would do better spitting at your enemies lol.
    Edited by Gisgo on June 10, 2014 12:32PM
  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    I'm
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
    Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.

    it is under 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. how difficult is that for you to understand?

    He still does not get it. I can use mage's fury AFTER you hit 20‰. For a guy who talks about school holidays so much, you could use some time back in the classroom son.

    You don't understand how any of the abilities in this game work. Son you should do some research before you make yourself look stupid. Keep crying, boy :)

    Or God, this guy thinks:

    -crystal fragments proc on themselves
    -heavy attacks are instacast
    -weapon crit is not important to range or melee
    -mage's fury cannot be used after he is under 20‰

    I really need to give you some room.

    1. Crystal fragments proc on themselves, ive proven this in the thread
    2. Heavy attacks aren't instacast unless you've charged it before combat
    3. No point in bringing my weapon crit level into the argument when I can't even swing my sword at a RANGED class
    4. it's endless fury, the morph of mages fury.

    Son you should do some research.

    This says it all folks.


    1. Will someone else please educate him on this?
    2. You cannot hold a charge on a destruction staff like bows (face palm)
    3. All melee weapon lines have a gap closer or ranged skill (so yeah, crit matters)
    4. Double face palm, BOTH morphs of mage's fury can be used AFTER you are under 20‰
    5. Why has it suddenly become my job to teach a baddie the basics? I guess it's not my job and that's on me.

    1. You don't know any of the skills or how they work, keep digging deeper and deeper. You've been proven wrong yet you still cant accept it. You probably think the world is shaped like a square or something
    2. You can't hold charge on staves for a heavy attack? good lord
    3. Crit doesnt matter when you've been knocked down, and you can't melee someone whos 25m away because they are out of your range. my crit level is irrelevant in this.
    4. He used endless fury, so use the right spells before you comment.
    5. go back to school, son.
    6. Also seek medical advice for your anger. You need to go outside for once and get some fresh air.

    1.) http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/does-crystal-fragments-proc-of-itself/

    2.) I challenge you to charge a heavy attack on a staff and hold it until a target comes (like on a bow).

    3.) http://www.esohead.com/skills/28448-critical-charge
    http://www.esohead.com/skills/41506-shield-charge
    http://www.esohead.com/skills/40622-flying-blade

    4.) The morphs all have the same 20% condition and can be used After you fall below 20% (for the hundredth time)

    5.) Points 1-4 seems to suggest you need to learn how to read.

    6.) Says the guy who made an entire thread to QQ about dying in pvp

    Crystal fragments proc itself. Learn to read the skills perhaps? God this thread is entertaining, you're getting so mad its actually hilarious

    http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info443-CrystalFragmentsProc.html

    there's even an addon that tells you when your next crystal fragments is instant to use after its been proc'ed.

    *facepalm*
    Edited by Valn on June 10, 2014 12:36PM
  • drackonir
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    I (DK) and my mate (NB) were questing in Cyrodil. We met a DK, killed him, bonus APs :no_mouth:
    - we seen him again, but he run away on his horse, o well.=, some other time then
    - then he attacked us when we were busy with a group of mobs, ups my ultimate was charged and ready, sad face and DK re-spawned.
    Then we thought that finally we can focus on what we came here to do, but no
    -DK brought a friend (sorcerer), sneaky attack didn't work, best friend of DK just bolted away poor DK hit a ground again.
    - but before we noticed he was back, this time with 3 friends. Well, I decided to be the first that will attack this time and all 3 went back to prey to their gods.
    - I don't know how, but they tracked us down again inside a dungeon fighting trash groups just before the boss. I wish I could see their faces when charged them without magica just to have an upper hand, barely but we won, again.
    - but before we left the dungeon they come back, this time they were 6, and no, 6 was too many for two of us and we decided to to re-spawn and have a break, They controlled whole map (all keeps) and were swarming out in search for us as it appeared that 2 of us were the only enemy their could find in the whole campaign :)
    But it was fun while it lasted, 15k extra AP while questing :)
    "Even Gods dislike the absolute, for it stinks of something larger than themselves."
    Sotha Sil
  • Vis
    Vis
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    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    I'm
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
    Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.

    it is under 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. how difficult is that for you to understand?

    He still does not get it. I can use mage's fury AFTER you hit 20‰. For a guy who talks about school holidays so much, you could use some time back in the classroom son.

    You don't understand how any of the abilities in this game work. Son you should do some research before you make yourself look stupid. Keep crying, boy :)

    Or God, this guy thinks:

    -crystal fragments proc on themselves
    -heavy attacks are instacast
    -weapon crit is not important to range or melee
    -mage's fury cannot be used after he is under 20‰

    I really need to give you some room.

    1. Crystal fragments proc on themselves, ive proven this in the thread
    2. Heavy attacks aren't instacast unless you've charged it before combat
    3. No point in bringing my weapon crit level into the argument when I can't even swing my sword at a RANGED class
    4. it's endless fury, the morph of mages fury.

    Son you should do some research.

    This says it all folks.


    1. Will someone else please educate him on this?
    2. You cannot hold a charge on a destruction staff like bows (face palm)
    3. All melee weapon lines have a gap closer or ranged skill (so yeah, crit matters)
    4. Double face palm, BOTH morphs of mage's fury can be used AFTER you are under 20‰
    5. Why has it suddenly become my job to teach a baddie the basics? I guess it's not my job and that's on me.

    1. You don't know any of the skills or how they work, keep digging deeper and deeper. You've been proven wrong yet you still cant accept it. You probably think the world is shaped like a square or something
    2. You can't hold charge on staves for a heavy attack? good lord
    3. Crit doesnt matter when you've been knocked down, and you can't melee someone whos 25m away because they are out of your range. my crit level is irrelevant in this.
    4. He used endless fury, so use the right spells before you comment.
    5. go back to school, son.
    6. Also seek medical advice for your anger. You need to go outside for once and get some fresh air.

    1.) http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/does-crystal-fragments-proc-of-itself/

    2.) I challenge you to charge a heavy attack on a staff and hold it until a target comes (like on a bow).

    3.) http://www.esohead.com/skills/28448-critical-charge
    http://www.esohead.com/skills/41506-shield-charge
    http://www.esohead.com/skills/40622-flying-blade

    4.) The morphs all have the same 20% condition and can be used After you fall below 20% (for the hundredth time)

    5.) Points 1-4 seems to suggest you need to learn how to read.

    6.) Says the guy who made an entire thread to QQ about dying in pvp

    Crystal fragments proc itself. Learn to read the skills perhaps? God this thread is entertaining, you're getting so mad its actually hilarious

    Godzilla-facepalm.png
    v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
    v14 DK Costs
    v14 NB 'Vis
    v14 Temp Fiat Lux

  • Vis
    Vis
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    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    I'm
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
    Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.

    it is under 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. how difficult is that for you to understand?

    He still does not get it. I can use mage's fury AFTER you hit 20‰. For a guy who talks about school holidays so much, you could use some time back in the classroom son.

    You don't understand how any of the abilities in this game work. Son you should do some research before you make yourself look stupid. Keep crying, boy :)

    Or God, this guy thinks:

    -crystal fragments proc on themselves
    -heavy attacks are instacast
    -weapon crit is not important to range or melee
    -mage's fury cannot be used after he is under 20‰

    I really need to give you some room.

    1. Crystal fragments proc on themselves, ive proven this in the thread
    2. Heavy attacks aren't instacast unless you've charged it before combat
    3. No point in bringing my weapon crit level into the argument when I can't even swing my sword at a RANGED class
    4. it's endless fury, the morph of mages fury.

    Son you should do some research.

    This says it all folks.


    1. Will someone else please educate him on this?
    2. You cannot hold a charge on a destruction staff like bows (face palm)
    3. All melee weapon lines have a gap closer or ranged skill (so yeah, crit matters)
    4. Double face palm, BOTH morphs of mage's fury can be used AFTER you are under 20‰
    5. Why has it suddenly become my job to teach a baddie the basics? I guess it's not my job and that's on me.

    1. You don't know any of the skills or how they work, keep digging deeper and deeper. You've been proven wrong yet you still cant accept it. You probably think the world is shaped like a square or something
    2. You can't hold charge on staves for a heavy attack? good lord
    3. Crit doesnt matter when you've been knocked down, and you can't melee someone whos 25m away because they are out of your range. my crit level is irrelevant in this.
    4. He used endless fury, so use the right spells before you comment.
    5. go back to school, son.
    6. Also seek medical advice for your anger. You need to go outside for once and get some fresh air.

    1.) http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/does-crystal-fragments-proc-of-itself/

    2.) I challenge you to charge a heavy attack on a staff and hold it until a target comes (like on a bow).

    3.) http://www.esohead.com/skills/28448-critical-charge
    http://www.esohead.com/skills/41506-shield-charge
    http://www.esohead.com/skills/40622-flying-blade

    4.) The morphs all have the same 20% condition and can be used After you fall below 20% (for the hundredth time)

    5.) Points 1-4 seems to suggest you need to learn how to read.

    6.) Says the guy who made an entire thread to QQ about dying in pvp

    Crystal fragments proc itself. Learn to read the skills perhaps? God this thread is entertaining, you're getting so mad its actually hilarious

    Godzilla-facepalm.png

    I would say he was trolling were it not for the screenshot of his stats.
    v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
    v14 DK Costs
    v14 NB 'Vis
    v14 Temp Fiat Lux

  • crislevin
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    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    I'm
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
    Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.

    it is under 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. how difficult is that for you to understand?

    He still does not get it. I can use mage's fury AFTER you hit 20‰. For a guy who talks about school holidays so much, you could use some time back in the classroom son.

    You don't understand how any of the abilities in this game work. Son you should do some research before you make yourself look stupid. Keep crying, boy :)

    Or God, this guy thinks:

    -crystal fragments proc on themselves
    -heavy attacks are instacast
    -weapon crit is not important to range or melee
    -mage's fury cannot be used after he is under 20‰

    I really need to give you some room.

    1. Crystal fragments proc on themselves, ive proven this in the thread
    2. Heavy attacks aren't instacast unless you've charged it before combat
    3. No point in bringing my weapon crit level into the argument when I can't even swing my sword at a RANGED class
    4. it's endless fury, the morph of mages fury.

    Son you should do some research.

    This says it all folks.


    1. Will someone else please educate him on this?
    2. You cannot hold a charge on a destruction staff like bows (face palm)
    3. All melee weapon lines have a gap closer or ranged skill (so yeah, crit matters)
    4. Double face palm, BOTH morphs of mage's fury can be used AFTER you are under 20‰
    5. Why has it suddenly become my job to teach a baddie the basics? I guess it's not my job and that's on me.

    1. You don't know any of the skills or how they work, keep digging deeper and deeper. You've been proven wrong yet you still cant accept it. You probably think the world is shaped like a square or something
    2. You can't hold charge on staves for a heavy attack? good lord
    3. Crit doesnt matter when you've been knocked down, and you can't melee someone whos 25m away because they are out of your range. my crit level is irrelevant in this.
    4. He used endless fury, so use the right spells before you comment.
    5. go back to school, son.
    6. Also seek medical advice for your anger. You need to go outside for once and get some fresh air.

    1.) http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/does-crystal-fragments-proc-of-itself/

    2.) I challenge you to charge a heavy attack on a staff and hold it until a target comes (like on a bow).

    3.) http://www.esohead.com/skills/28448-critical-charge
    http://www.esohead.com/skills/41506-shield-charge
    http://www.esohead.com/skills/40622-flying-blade

    4.) The morphs all have the same 20% condition and can be used After you fall below 20% (for the hundredth time)

    5.) Points 1-4 seems to suggest you need to learn how to read.

    6.) Says the guy who made an entire thread to QQ about dying in pvp

    Crystal fragments proc itself. Learn to read the skills perhaps? God this thread is entertaining, you're getting so mad its actually hilarious

    http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info443-CrystalFragmentsProc.html

    there's even an addon that tells you when your next crystal fragments is instant to use after its been proc'ed.

    *facepalm*
    lol, let me tell you something, take a good look at screenshot you link....

    the player is in town, pretty far from wayshrine, with shard proc'ed, right?

    now let me tell you something else, the shard need a target to cast...

    think over this....

    in town.... no target.... shard proc'ed....not by another shard.....

    mmmkay?

    ps, really shouldn't comment on sorc skills if you don't know them very much.
    Edited by crislevin on June 10, 2014 12:42PM
  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    I'm
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
    Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.

    it is under 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. how difficult is that for you to understand?

    He still does not get it. I can use mage's fury AFTER you hit 20‰. For a guy who talks about school holidays so much, you could use some time back in the classroom son.

    You don't understand how any of the abilities in this game work. Son you should do some research before you make yourself look stupid. Keep crying, boy :)

    Or God, this guy thinks:

    -crystal fragments proc on themselves
    -heavy attacks are instacast
    -weapon crit is not important to range or melee
    -mage's fury cannot be used after he is under 20‰

    I really need to give you some room.

    1. Crystal fragments proc on themselves, ive proven this in the thread
    2. Heavy attacks aren't instacast unless you've charged it before combat
    3. No point in bringing my weapon crit level into the argument when I can't even swing my sword at a RANGED class
    4. it's endless fury, the morph of mages fury.

    Son you should do some research.

    This says it all folks.


    1. Will someone else please educate him on this?
    2. You cannot hold a charge on a destruction staff like bows (face palm)
    3. All melee weapon lines have a gap closer or ranged skill (so yeah, crit matters)
    4. Double face palm, BOTH morphs of mage's fury can be used AFTER you are under 20‰
    5. Why has it suddenly become my job to teach a baddie the basics? I guess it's not my job and that's on me.

    1. You don't know any of the skills or how they work, keep digging deeper and deeper. You've been proven wrong yet you still cant accept it. You probably think the world is shaped like a square or something
    2. You can't hold charge on staves for a heavy attack? good lord
    3. Crit doesnt matter when you've been knocked down, and you can't melee someone whos 25m away because they are out of your range. my crit level is irrelevant in this.
    4. He used endless fury, so use the right spells before you comment.
    5. go back to school, son.
    6. Also seek medical advice for your anger. You need to go outside for once and get some fresh air.

    1.) http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/does-crystal-fragments-proc-of-itself/

    2.) I challenge you to charge a heavy attack on a staff and hold it until a target comes (like on a bow).

    3.) http://www.esohead.com/skills/28448-critical-charge
    http://www.esohead.com/skills/41506-shield-charge
    http://www.esohead.com/skills/40622-flying-blade

    4.) The morphs all have the same 20% condition and can be used After you fall below 20% (for the hundredth time)

    5.) Points 1-4 seems to suggest you need to learn how to read.

    6.) Says the guy who made an entire thread to QQ about dying in pvp

    Crystal fragments proc itself. Learn to read the skills perhaps? God this thread is entertaining, you're getting so mad its actually hilarious

    Godzilla-facepalm.png

    I would say he was trolling were it not for the screenshot of his stats.

    http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info443-CrystalFragmentsProc.html

    you are obviously trolling. but if you're this stupid then i feel sorry for you.
  • Valn
    Valn
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    crislevin wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    I'm
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
    Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.

    it is under 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. how difficult is that for you to understand?

    He still does not get it. I can use mage's fury AFTER you hit 20‰. For a guy who talks about school holidays so much, you could use some time back in the classroom son.

    You don't understand how any of the abilities in this game work. Son you should do some research before you make yourself look stupid. Keep crying, boy :)

    Or God, this guy thinks:

    -crystal fragments proc on themselves
    -heavy attacks are instacast
    -weapon crit is not important to range or melee
    -mage's fury cannot be used after he is under 20‰

    I really need to give you some room.

    1. Crystal fragments proc on themselves, ive proven this in the thread
    2. Heavy attacks aren't instacast unless you've charged it before combat
    3. No point in bringing my weapon crit level into the argument when I can't even swing my sword at a RANGED class
    4. it's endless fury, the morph of mages fury.

    Son you should do some research.

    This says it all folks.


    1. Will someone else please educate him on this?
    2. You cannot hold a charge on a destruction staff like bows (face palm)
    3. All melee weapon lines have a gap closer or ranged skill (so yeah, crit matters)
    4. Double face palm, BOTH morphs of mage's fury can be used AFTER you are under 20‰
    5. Why has it suddenly become my job to teach a baddie the basics? I guess it's not my job and that's on me.

    1. You don't know any of the skills or how they work, keep digging deeper and deeper. You've been proven wrong yet you still cant accept it. You probably think the world is shaped like a square or something
    2. You can't hold charge on staves for a heavy attack? good lord
    3. Crit doesnt matter when you've been knocked down, and you can't melee someone whos 25m away because they are out of your range. my crit level is irrelevant in this.
    4. He used endless fury, so use the right spells before you comment.
    5. go back to school, son.
    6. Also seek medical advice for your anger. You need to go outside for once and get some fresh air.

    1.) http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/does-crystal-fragments-proc-of-itself/

    2.) I challenge you to charge a heavy attack on a staff and hold it until a target comes (like on a bow).

    3.) http://www.esohead.com/skills/28448-critical-charge
    http://www.esohead.com/skills/41506-shield-charge
    http://www.esohead.com/skills/40622-flying-blade

    4.) The morphs all have the same 20% condition and can be used After you fall below 20% (for the hundredth time)

    5.) Points 1-4 seems to suggest you need to learn how to read.

    6.) Says the guy who made an entire thread to QQ about dying in pvp

    Crystal fragments proc itself. Learn to read the skills perhaps? God this thread is entertaining, you're getting so mad its actually hilarious

    http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info443-CrystalFragmentsProc.html

    there's even an addon that tells you when your next crystal fragments is instant to use after its been proc'ed.

    *facepalm*
    lol, let me tell you something, take a good look at screenshot you link....

    the player is in town, pretty far from wayshrine, with shard proc'ed, right?

    now let me tell you something else, the shard need a target to cast...

    think over this....

    in town.... no target.... shard proc'ed....not by another shard.....

    mmmkay?

    consider this

    the screenshot is there to show you where the icon is. maybe the icon glows when it's proc'ed.

    keep trying, son kay? :)
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