NB just killed me in about 4 seconds

  • Vis
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    God, we're already on page 3. I wash my hands of this mess. I have made my points and he did not die in 3-4 seconds.
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  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    God, we're already on page 3. I wash my hands of this mess. I have made my points and he did not die in 3-4 seconds.

    I died in less than 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. It says so on the screenshot. Youll have to accept that's a fact or leave the thread entirely.
  • cjmarsh725b14_ESO
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    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    A full heavy is 2-3 second charge + 1.3 for at least one crystal fragment. Those two alone (even if there were no attack duration, animation, or travel time) would not fit your 4 second claim.
    This is wrong. If a streak or two from stealth gives a proc to CF then a heavy attack with an instant CF immediately after takes about half a second because of animation canceling. Throw in another light attack followed immediately by another CF cast and the Fury finisher and it happens just like the screenshot shows.
    Except the math. Add the damage on the recap, subtract the health from his stats, apologies accepted.
    Does the recap show the burning damage? Or anything taken before the 2.5 seconds it took to finish him off? No, it doesn't.
  • Vis
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    A heavy hitting that hard against a player is nearly fully charged. But then... I am back to wasting time. So good luck on your whole L2p.
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  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    A heavy hitting that hard against a player is nearly fully charged. But then... I am back to wasting time. So good luck on your whole L2p.
    .

    You've been proven wrong many times. Yes, you're wasting time trying to dig yourself out the hole. Byebye
  • Vis
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    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    A heavy hitting that hard against a player is nearly fully charged. But then... I am back to wasting time. So good luck on your whole L2p.
    .

    You've been proven wrong many times. Yes, you're wasting time trying to dig yourself out the hole. Byebye

    Heads up to any coming in:

    This guy thinks crystal fragments can proc on itself and that heavy attack are instacasts.
    Edited by Vis on June 10, 2014 11:21AM
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  • cm.allen2011_ESO
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    You can cast endless fury when they are already below 20% and it will explode then.
  • cjmarsh725b14_ESO
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    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    A heavy hitting that hard against a player is nearly fully charged. But then... I am back to wasting time. So good luck on your whole L2p.
    .

    You've been proven wrong many times. Yes, you're wasting time trying to dig yourself out the hole. Byebye

    Heads up to any coming in:

    This guy thinks crystal fragments can proc on itself.
    He may not know all the mechanics of sorcs but you apparently don't know as much as you think you do.
  • Vis
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    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    A heavy hitting that hard against a player is nearly fully charged. But then... I am back to wasting time. So good luck on your whole L2p.
    .

    You've been proven wrong many times. Yes, you're wasting time trying to dig yourself out the hole. Byebye

    Heads up to any coming in:

    This guy thinks crystal fragments can proc on itself.
    He may not know all the mechanics of sorcs but you apparently don't know as much as you think you do.

    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?
    Edited by Vis on June 10, 2014 11:24AM
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  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    A heavy hitting that hard against a player is nearly fully charged. But then... I am back to wasting time. So good luck on your whole L2p.
    .

    You've been proven wrong many times. Yes, you're wasting time trying to dig yourself out the hole. Byebye

    Heads up to any coming in:

    This guy thinks crystal fragments can proc on itself and that heavy attack are instacasts.

    2nb60pj.jpg

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Trolling & Baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on June 10, 2014 6:28PM
  • Venithar
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    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin
  • Vis
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    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    A heavy hitting that hard against a player is nearly fully charged. But then... I am back to wasting time. So good luck on your whole L2p.
    .

    You've been proven wrong many times. Yes, you're wasting time trying to dig yourself out the hole. Byebye

    Heads up to any coming in:

    This guy thinks crystal fragments can proc on itself and that heavy attack are instacasts.

    2nb60pj.jpg

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Trolling & Baiting]

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]
    Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on June 10, 2014 7:00PM
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  • Hypertionb14_ESO
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    Any class can use stealth...

    I land sneak attacks for 1.9k+ with wrecking blow on my DK tank build....

    NB only has the advantage of Shadow Cloak, which lets them get closer a bit easier.
    I play every class in every situation. I love them all.
  • Vis
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    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    Edited by Vis on June 10, 2014 11:30AM
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  • FlatLine84
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    Valn wrote: »
    my stats qqoftj.jpg


    That's why you got owned.. Your a gimp
  • Vis
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    FlatLine84 wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    my stats qqoftj.jpg


    That's why you got owned.. Your a gimp

    Yeah, if I were him I would have never let those stats see the light of day.
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  • cjmarsh725b14_ESO
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    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
  • Valn
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    FlatLine84 wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    my stats qqoftj.jpg


    That's why you got owned.. Your a gimp

    You're*

    name calling and you can't even use the right wording? you on your school holidays or something?
    Edited by Valn on June 10, 2014 11:40AM
  • Vis
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    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
    Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.
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  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
    Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.

    it is under 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. how difficult is that for you to understand?
  • Vis
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    Valn wrote: »
    FlatLine84 wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    my stats qqoftj.jpg


    That's why you got owned.. Your a gimp

    You're*

    name calling and you can't even use the right wording? you on your school holidays or something?
    Slow clap for the v12 "stamina build" with 70 stamina regeneration and 0% weapon crit.
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  • cjmarsh725b14_ESO
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    Edit: you know what, nevermind
    Edited by cjmarsh725b14_ESO on June 10, 2014 11:44AM
  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    FlatLine84 wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    my stats qqoftj.jpg


    That's why you got owned.. Your a gimp

    You're*

    name calling and you can't even use the right wording? you on your school holidays or something?
    Slow clap for the v12 "stamina build" with 70 stamina regeneration and 0% weapon crit.

    don't know what crit has to do with it. he was a ranged class so i couldnt really hit him when i was knocked down.
  • Vis
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    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
    Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.

    it is under 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. how difficult is that for you to understand?

    He still does not get it. I can use mage's fury AFTER you hit 20‰. For a guy who talks about school holidays so much, you could use some time back in the classroom son.
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  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
    Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.

    it is under 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. how difficult is that for you to understand?

    He still does not get it. I can use mage's fury AFTER you hit 20‰. For a guy who talks about school holidays so much, you could use some time back in the classroom son.

    You don't understand how any of the abilities in this game work. Son you should do some research before you make yourself look stupid. Keep crying, boy :)
  • Vis
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    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    FlatLine84 wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    my stats qqoftj.jpg


    That's why you got owned.. Your a gimp

    You're*

    name calling and you can't even use the right wording? you on your school holidays or something?
    Slow clap for the v12 "stamina build" with 70 stamina regeneration and 0% weapon crit.

    don't know what crit has to do with it. he was a ranged class so i couldnt really hit him when i was knocked down.

    It means you do not know how to build/play within your OWN class, little alone how other classes work.
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  • Valn
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    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    FlatLine84 wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    my stats qqoftj.jpg


    That's why you got owned.. Your a gimp

    You're*

    name calling and you can't even use the right wording? you on your school holidays or something?
    Slow clap for the v12 "stamina build" with 70 stamina regeneration and 0% weapon crit.

    don't know what crit has to do with it. he was a ranged class so i couldnt really hit him when i was knocked down.

    It means you do not know how to build/play within your OWN class, little alone how other classes work.

    I honestly don't think you've ever done any PVP in this game. You should play it a little then come back with a better argument, son.

    You've already made yourself look stupid, you've even proven to us you don't know how the skills work, or what they are. You can keep trying to climb yourself out of the hole but you're digging deeper and deeper. :)
    Edited by Valn on June 10, 2014 11:48AM
  • Vis
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    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Venithar wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Because what would a pvp rank 19 sorc know about sorc skills right?

    My guess would be that you know how to sit in a busy campaign and hang out in a zerg. I would guess that those sorcs in less populated campaigns, that actually have to do something other then spam AoEs all the time would know more about the class.... just sayin

    Actually all I do is solo gank. It's how I know what I can and can't do in under 4seconds.
    If you don't ever do 650 burst dps, you're doing it wrong...
    Who says I can't. The argument is whether HIS death recap is under 4 seconds. And it's not.

    it is under 4 seconds because endless fury exploded. how difficult is that for you to understand?

    He still does not get it. I can use mage's fury AFTER you hit 20‰. For a guy who talks about school holidays so much, you could use some time back in the classroom son.

    You don't understand how any of the abilities in this game work. Son you should do some research before you make yourself look stupid. Keep crying, boy :)

    Oh God, this guy thinks:

    -crystal fragments proc on themselves
    -heavy attacks are instacast
    -weapon crit is not important to range or melee
    -mage's fury cannot be used after he is under 20‰

    I really need to give you some room.
    Edited by Vis on June 10, 2014 11:52AM
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  • psufan5
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    VR12 NB here, full legendary gear, rank 15. I have never killed an equal rank DK who was in heavy armor, and not afk. You simply cannot kill them, and if you died to one, you are probably a victim of a glitch. It takes 4 people to kill a DK, which is the definition of overpowered.

    You can't attack them from range - they reflect everything back to you.
    You can't attack them up close, that is suicide.
    Even if you manage to get them low, they will self-heal back to full in a second.


    Ambush and concealed weapon do physical damage, so they wont hit you hard given your armor type. Sounds like you got glitched, which is friggen SAD. You have to glitch to kill a DK.

    Edited by psufan5 on June 10, 2014 11:53AM

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